Slownickel lounge, pull up a chair. CEC interpretation

[caterpillar710]

So what you have if it's regular south fork kush it's the SFV clone with a male chemdog bc3 crosses over it.

If you have SFK'c' x chemdog bc3 it's a south fork kush female we crossed back to the father.

The male was made using chemdog4 , the out cross male was chem91/bubbabc3. All that work was done by shabud and he gave me the chemdog bc3 seeds in 2013 and I popped them and gave another collective member 4 males. We kept the best one.

 

[Space Case]

Hazy, the data I've seen on spinosad's half-life makes it hard to believe there would be enough left to detect if you sprayed back in July, especially since sun exposure really reduces the half-life, and in July you wouldnt have any flowers to hide spinosad from the sun. That said, if you do some googling, youll find reports of traces of spinosad left after months and months when sprayed on trees. I'll try to find them.

As for the others like abamectin and id-whatever, there have been some 'organic' pesticide companies that have snuck conventional pesticides in. Might want to test your pesticides before you spray them. Ill try to find that news report, too.

What's Hazy Bulldog OG?

Space Case- thanks. Lol so i got a little confused there. I thought the bc3 refered to just the chemd, which doesnt make sense because you need more than one plant to backcross. Although you could self it and backcross it 3x.

So in sfv x chemd bc3, it goes:

Sfv x chemd
F1 x chemd
Bc1 x chemd
Bc2 x chemd
And then the seeds from that cross are what's in my pack? Or is it one more backcross...

I thought it was Chem 4, not Chem D that was used on those South Fork seeds. Either way....

The standard convention is to write the female first. So (female) x (male).

South Fork Kush (female) x Chem4 Bc3 (male, or reversed pollen donor)

Which equates to:
South Fork Kush x (Chem 4 x (Chem4 x (Chem4 x (Chem4 x (whatever male was used)))))

F1s are the Chem 4 x (whatever male)
Bc1s are Chem 4 x F1 male
Bc2s are Chem 4 x Bc1 male
Bc3s are Chem 4 x Bc2 male

The male used in the cross is a male from the Bc3 seed stock, which in turn technically creates a new F1 cross. However, I do believe South Fork Kush also contains Chem 4. So basically what you have is a Puerto Rican.

Either way, you can see from the line breeding and out crossing, that there is work thats been put in! Now to pull a male out and cross it to my Chem 4 cut again, LMAO!

 

[slownickel]

I thought it was Chem 4, not Chem D that was used on those South Fork seeds. Either way....

So basically what you have is a Puerto Rican.

LMAO

 

[HazyBulldog]

Total yeast and mold over 100,000 will be a fail under MMRSA.

Not anymore. You read up on that?

 

[caterpillar710]

No I didn't but what the fuck?!

 

[caterpillar710]

I thought it was Chem 4, not Chem D that was used on those South Fork seeds. Either way....

The standard convention is to write the female first. So (female) x (male).

South Fork Kush (female) x Chem4 Bc3 (male, or reversed pollen donor)

Which equates to:
South Fork Kush x (Chem 4 x (Chem4 x (Chem4 x (Chem4 x (whatever male was used)))))

F1s are the Chem 4 x (whatever male)
Bc1s are Chem 4 x F1 male
Bc2s are Chem 4 x Bc1 male
Bc3s are Chem 4 x Bc2 male

The male used in the cross is a male from the Bc3 seed stock, which in turn technically creates a new F1 cross. However, I do believe South Fork Kush also contains Chem 4. So basically what you have is a Puerto Rican.

Either way, you can see from the line breeding and out crossing, that there is work thats been put in! Now to pull a male out and cross it to my Chem 4 cut again, LMAO!

You're right it is chem4 not Chem D no one ever said it was the d cut. The outcross male was chem91/bubba bc3 , making the "F1" chem4 x chem91/bubba bc3

If you look at game bred dog pedigrees that will give you an idea of how we set out to make combinations , Garner's Simba is a good example of tight linebreeding work by a true dog man

 

[HazyBulldog]

Dont quote me on what MMRSA is doing, but SClabs went back on that full swing. I was told, but can't remember the name of the agency that recommended those levels and Incorporated them into MMRSA. They also are going full swing back in the other direction now. They also found light deps commonly test over the 100k threshold, which would eliminate a huge part of the industry. What they did was, pick a number out of a hat. With zero thought of what parts per million are actually harmful. The levels they are testing at are lower than the air you breath on an old forest hike.


Long story short, those numbers are being reworked.

Also to comment on that, my killer queen had some bud rot, that didn't surprise me. However the Ancient Og still has 2 pounds on it that is sparking clean, ask SlowN. Not a single nug on that plant had rot, or any pm. No idea how it tested over 100k. Now you start to think about the science, and consider the higher levels of sugar in properly grown plants, then bagging them........ ext ext.

 

[Tonygreen]

Yo Slow here is a small update day 49. these have 1 pound per cubic foot gypsum. Sadly no soil test to start so it is anecdotal but these are the stinkiest healthiest plants I have grown and I been running the gg4 for several years straight. They also healed very quickly and formed knuckles very quickly from my hard LST (i hate that word ha) training.





A big thank you coming your way here when I get my bx4 line done slow.

Will get the medium tested finally when these are done here shortly.

 

[plantingplants]

My bad-- I shortened Chemdawg (as it says on the SFK pack) to chemd.

I kept coming across animal breeding when googling line breeding. Ignored it to find plant specific texts but genetics are genetics. I'm gonna take another look.

 

[slownickel]

Yo Slow here is a small update day 49. these have 1 pound per cubic foot gypsum. Sadly no soil test to start so it is anecdotal but these are the stinkiest healthiest plants I have grown and I been running the gg4 for several years straight. They also healed very quickly and formed knuckles very quickly from my hard LST (i hate that word ha) training.

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A big thank you coming your way here when I get my bx4 line done slow.

Glad to have been a help.... you can get even better if we dial in the rest.

 

[slownickel]

Yo Slow here is a small update day 49. these have 1 pound per cubic foot gypsum. Sadly no soil test to start so it is anecdotal but these are the stinkiest healthiest plants I have grown and I been running the gg4 for several years straight. They also healed very quickly and formed knuckles very quickly from my hard LST (i hate that word ha) training.

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A big thank you coming your way here when I get my bx4 line done slow.

Tony,

You are showing some K deficiency. They are hungry.

 

[Tonygreen]

All I have is some dry MOAB at 0-52-32... scary numbers since I have been salt stressing all of my plants before these to extremes I gave them one small shot at .4 EC day 43 but the stuff scares me, it's been tap water most of the way with a few foliars for micros. I have been hesitant to fuck anything up ha! The soil EC is at 1.1 atm.

 

[slownickel]

Hope you got something off early for Christmas....

 

[caterpillar710]

My bad-- I shortened Chemdawg (as it says on the SFK pack) to chemd.

I kept coming across animal breeding when googling line breeding. Ignored it to find plant specific texts but genetics are genetics. I'm gonna take another look.

Exactly - based off of what good dog men did, garner, fat bill, norrod, carver etc

 

[Space Case]

With dogs, you do the same line breeding, but keep 2 or more lines separate. Then when you have isolated the traits you want in both lines, you finally cross them to each other to maintain some hybrid vigor. Not many do that in cannabis. Dj Short claimed he did, but even there hard to prove and most his gear has no vigor.

 

[Shcrews]

i always thought there are a lot of similarities between breeding dogs and ganja. takes a lot of work to make a unique line. what is the cannabis equivalent of pure-bred dogs?

 

[caterpillar710]

With dogs, you do the same line breeding, but keep 2 or more lines separate. Then when you have isolated the traits you want in both lines, you finally cross them to each other to maintain some hybrid vigor. Not many do that in cannabis. Dj Short claimed he did, but even there hard to prove and most his gear has no vigor.

That's what we are working on right now ... crossing the two lines together is the battle cross where you get all your valued traits in to one line by crossing your two that have them saved
Together

Luckily in today's world we can document everything and show pictures of all the steps

 

[caterpillar710]

There's rrally isn't one yet screws but we are working on it. County came back and said 12,500 sq feet instead of 10,000 sonwe are building a 90x120 now. When done it'll be 10,000 sq ft from seed and that's when the real work will begin

 

[caterpillar710]

You can also see in a lot of great game dog pedigrees the same dog on the top or bottom side at different stages in the line breeding program.

At the end of the day though you have to test the children for ability using some kind of metric. You can ask any good dog man and that's always the answer.

 

[Shcrews]

There's rrally isn't one yet screws but we are working on it. County came back and said 12,500 sq feet instead of 10,000 sonwe are building a 90x120 now. When done it'll be 10,000 sq ft from seed and that's when the real work will begin

your next username should be luther burbDank