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[HazyBulldog]

I hope to do them genetics proud.

Filling deps, what do you recommend Caterpiller? SFK or Cherry Chem? Or both?

I got a chance to talk to Gary. I really like that guy. Just rubs me the right way. We chatted while he was in line for an organic burrito. Sounds like you guys are doing good work in Cali and in Colorado and sounds like people can really use your help.

 

[caterpillar710]

I've done both but for the time of year you'll be real happy having OG in the summer

 

[HazyBulldog]

Hey slow, gonna mix up that native soil we talked about. How should I submit that?

 

[slownickel]

Hey slow, gonna mix up that native soil we talked about. How should I submit that?

Just label it up and ask for the K-2 procedures.

 

[Sluicebox]

sub'd great thread, thank you for the knowledge.

 

[plantingplants]

Jidoka, are you saying photo mag actually stimulates photosynthesis or just that it adds fuel to the fire?

Cat, is it the gender of the parent that's important, or just which parent is dominant or recessive for your desired traits? If not, i dont understand why daughter x father would favor the daughter and why mother x son would favor the mother?

Also, if i look at a seedpack and see the strain, sfv x chemdawg bc3, for ex., does that mean those seeds are literally the F1 offspring of those two cuts you keep, or does 'sfv x chemd bc3' just mean that's the cross you started with and then stabilized with inbreeding or something. Although the chemd bc3 is probably the 'breeder' dad with lots of homozygous genotypes? So the answer is probably the former not the latter. You already stabilized the chemd through backcrossing so you can cross it with a hybrid and achieve only a small amount of phenotypic variation in the F1s??

And it makes sense now-- youve found an elite pheno so youre crossing it back to the true breeding male to create a new line, rather than the hybrid female.

Am i getting this or am i just going off the rails?

 

[Space Case]

Jidoka, are you saying photo mag actually stimulates photosynthesis or just that it adds fuel to the fire?

Cat, is it the gender of the parent that's important, or just which parent is dominant or recessive for your desired traits? If not, i dont understand why daughter x father would favor the daughter and why mother x son would favor the mother?

Also, if i look at a seedpack and see the strain, sfv x chemdawg bc3, for ex., does that mean those seeds are literally the F1 offspring of those two cuts you keep, or does 'sfv x chemd bc3' just mean that's the cross you started with and then stabilized with inbreeding or something. Although the chemd bc3 is probably the 'breeder' dad with lots of homozygous genotypes? So the answer is probably the former not the latter. You already stabilized the chemd through backcrossing so you can cross it with a hybrid and achieve only a small amount of phenotypic variation in the F1s??

And it makes sense now-- youve found an elite pheno so youre crossing it back to the true breeding male to create a new line, rather than the hybrid female.

Am i getting this or am i just going off the rails?

Photomag increases photosynthesis for most because most people's plants have excess N that isn't being used, just stored. Read up more on the effects of Mg, Co, and Mo on nitrogen uptake and metabolism.

Bc3, or Bx3, means the third back cross of a selected male progeny to the original mother clone, in this case, Chem4. People do these types of squared or cubed crosses with the hopes of stabilizing and homogenizing the traits of the original female. It doesn't always work because 90% of our clone-only strains are not homozygous, but if you use a male that either has very recessive genes, or similar enough traits to the mother, then you can often stabilize, or at least preserve within select phenos, the traits that you are looking for.

 

[HazyBulldog]

Kind of new to this thread, so let me know if I am out of line SlowN.

These are my test results from the cup. I failed pesticides I have never heard of. Any idea's on that? I failed spinosad, and I didn't spray at all in flower. used some in July. Can't still be that high in the plant 3 months later can it? Your guys thoughts.

Also, notice the flowers all test zero. The concentrates are the ones that picked up the pesticides........... I smell dirty equipment. I get that concentrates will suck that stuff up and test higher, but shouldn't my flowers show something? Especially now that they test in the parts per billion?

 

[HazyBulldog]

 

[plantingplants]

Hazy, the data I've seen on spinosad's half-life makes it hard to believe there would be enough left to detect if you sprayed back in July, especially since sun exposure really reduces the half-life, and in July you wouldnt have any flowers to hide spinosad from the sun. That said, if you do some googling, youll find reports of traces of spinosad left after months and months when sprayed on trees. I'll try to find them.

As for the others like abamectin and id-whatever, there have been some 'organic' pesticide companies that have snuck conventional pesticides in. Might want to test your pesticides before you spray them. Ill try to find that news report, too.

What's Hazy Bulldog OG?

Space Case- thanks. Lol so i got a little confused there. I thought the bc3 refered to just the chemd, which doesnt make sense because you need more than one plant to backcross. Although you could self it and backcross it 3x.

So in sfv x chemd bc3, it goes:

Sfv x chemd
F1 x chemd
Bc1 x chemd
Bc2 x chemd
And then the seeds from that cross are what's in my pack? Or is it one more backcross...

 

[HazyBulldog]

Hazy Bulldog og is a Ancient Og keeper pheno. Popped almost 100 beans to find that keeper. Love the Ancient. 2.5% terps. Could always do better also.

I didn't spray anything on my plants other than some AEA stuff, and Pure organic essential oils. I still have those, so I might send them out for testing. Nothing else though. AEA maybe? Everything I use from AEA is organic.

 

[HazyBulldog]

I should mention what I spray on one plant, they all get, so why the variance?

 

[plantingplants]

Guardian Mite Spray was supposedly natural but had abamectin (avid) in it. And now I cant find the paper on the environmental persistence in trees. Maybe it wasn't spinosad.

Could there be cross-contamination? Here's a crazy theory-- the dog flea medication Comfortis is spinosad. If you give that to your dogs (or your trimmers give it to their dogs) and then your trimmers pet the dogs and trim your weed...... ??????

 

[HazyBulldog]

THAT'S AVID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That shit doesn't even come on my property, how the fuck did I fail that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will sue their ass if I loose my cert.


Pretty sure it's not a flee med thing. Trimmers were some of the grossest people in history, but they don't give their dogs anything. Menstrual blood tested negative though....... long story.

 

[_tessarecting]

There arent any fails for abamectin on the tests you posted just spinosad

Maybe try hosing them down before flower

 

[HazyBulldog]

They had 3" of rain before harvest!

Good call on the abamectin, I ran and grabbed my folder and you beat me to it.

 

[_tessarecting]

I think when you grow big ass plants you have to take extra measures to ensure that you wash away anything that might reside on inner stems...even in the rainstorms we had. My best guess at least. I had to put a lot of effort into removing the DE I blasted.

 

[slownickel]

Spinosad is supposedly systemic to a point. We know that it will stay on the eggs of caterpillars until the worm comes out, eats the egg casing and then they die.

This lab worries me.

 

[slownickel]

Hazy Bulldog og is a Ancient Og keeper pheno. Popped almost 100 beans to find that keeper. Love the Ancient. 2.5% terps. Could always do better also.

I didn't spray anything on my plants other than some AEA stuff, and Pure organic essential oils. I still have those, so I might send them out for testing. Nothing else though. AEA maybe? Everything I use from AEA is organic.

Maybe take the same sample in and have it run again, give it a different name. Maybe just ask for the residuals. Put a different name on it.

 

[caterpillar710]

Total yeast and mold over 100,000 will be a fail under MMRSA.