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Douglas.Curtis
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I was originally directed here by someone saying this info was good, for hydro. Yes, they were indeed mistaken as this thread is soil centric. lol I'm looking forward to having the resources to work with soil, based on the information posted here.
Until then, I'd like to have just ONE grower show me better soil buds than my hydro. (even my less than perfect runs. lol) There any Colorado competitions in the southern areas this year? I should have something close to decent in a few months. lol
Until then, I'd like to have just ONE grower show me better soil buds than my hydro. (even my less than perfect runs. lol) There any Colorado competitions in the southern areas this year? I should have something close to decent in a few months. lol
Sorry Douglas, I am willing to bet Lassen farms outdoor poops on your indoor. If not, you have amazing indoor.
Have you taken a leaf sample? What are your ratios? I am willing to bet, Ca is short. How do you overcome that in your hydro set up? That is really what this thread is about. High Ca with balanced metals.
BTW, is the Cole memo F-ing anybody else over? Is anybody working on a counter argument for local government purposes? PM me if willing to share that argument.
Have you taken a leaf sample? What are your ratios? I am willing to bet, Ca is short. How do you overcome that in your hydro set up? That is really what this thread is about. High Ca with balanced metals.
BTW, is the Cole memo F-ing anybody else over? Is anybody working on a counter argument for local government purposes? PM me if willing to share that argument.
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Big pumps and proper design in RDWC. It is possible.
Add up every hour you have into cannabis last year... all the labor, time calculating, time designing, time building, time networking... I can pay my taxes and sleep at night growing vegetables and raising livestock.
In my state, I can make 10x more on vegetables than cannabis, legally anyways.
I ran it on some Tahoe's and Hell's Og a while back. No appreciable difference in yield or potency but visually something cracked. Frost out the ass but nothing to back it up. There are plenty of ways to solubize P (and I do think it achieved that) without spending a bit 'o money on their label.
They give away tons of the stuff.. I have 5 free bottles still stashed away.
I don't have any relevant observations without a proper control.. I figure use it till I'm all out then I'll see if there's a decline.
led05
Chasing The Present
Big pumps and proper design in RDWC. It is possible.
Add up every hour you have into cannabis last year... all the labor, time calculating, time designing, time building, time networking... I can pay my taxes and sleep at night growing vegetables and raising livestock.
In my state, I can make 10x more on vegetables than cannabis, legally anyways.
Solid AG practice, sound understanding of organic, minerals, good ol’ Real farmer ingenuity and the potential to truly dial a product ( at least for foreseeable future) will make Canna a very good play for many, barring the inevitable bureaucratic ignorant baffonism that stands in the way in places like ur mitten, even worse my big apple...
The unique situation will exist for premium players, especially in an organic & natural setting...
Until then I’ll continue to TRY and perfect my peppers and tomatoes here and the other crops most “claim” don’t grow here or at least not profitably...
Keep on bucking....
to Douglas and ur private comment to me.., like ‘many I started in Hydro bc it’s easy, simple, that was decades ago.... some here are real farmers and quite knowledgeable even if they don’t love ur salts and fake environment
The other key thing, what a plant looks like IME maybe is 10% of equation , even less if your a connoisseur. I’m after effect, taste, no ceiling, length of effect, cleeaness etc, none can be gleaned by a “pic” online .... sorry, Hydro will never be able to teach you this, sadly
If your growing your retail strains for “bag appeal” do your thing, to me and imho that isn’t , at all, what this thread is about but is exactly what Hydro will get u , bag appeal and that’s about it....
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If you feed the microbiology with teas, molasses, enzymes, etc., plus keep adding more and greater diversified microbiology, then you are going in the right direction.
P liberating microbiology I have my doubts about. The reason is simple. Folks have so much K in their mixes that they need to be running high P. Even if the stuff worked the results are going to be minimal in a high K environment.
This is a self induced issue for the worm casting and compost purists. Unless you are adding a P source there is a false ceiling that you are creating with all that high K.
P liberating microbiology I have my doubts about. The reason is simple. Folks have so much K in their mixes that they need to be running high P. Even if the stuff worked the results are going to be minimal in a high K environment.
This is a self induced issue for the worm casting and compost purists. Unless you are adding a P source there is a false ceiling that you are creating with all that high K.
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I've just tried Mammoth P for a run & witnessed pretty good results
Yeah, I'm not sure what it was for me. I noticed some serious vigor and frost- I was seriously expecting the testing to blow me out of the water. Then the needle barely moved
~star~crash~
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Slow it's it just fox farms ocean forest 
: but i wanted to comment because i've actually tried mammoth P on a cut i'm very familiar with and i noticed positive results when compared to earlier runs of the same cut ...sturdier plant with thicker stems is what i'm observing & lot of vigor as well ...peace
: but i wanted to comment because i've actually tried mammoth P on a cut i'm very familiar with and i noticed positive results when compared to earlier runs of the same cut ...sturdier plant with thicker stems is what i'm observing & lot of vigor as well ...peaceIf you mix hydro up to slow nickels ratios it will easily outperform a standard hydro feed chart... the problem is getting the high calcium without adding too much nitrogen. On a small scale using Albion or biacor would be awesome I imagine, and had good results on a medium scale drip running 200-350ppm gypsum and general hydroponics calimagic to try to get the recommended ratio... but I think you would have to do water tests to get ratios exact and see...
led05
Chasing The Present
Yeah, I'm not sure what it was for me. I noticed some serious vigor and frost- I was seriously expecting the testing to blow me out of the water. Then the needle barely moved
it seems with this plant species in particular, the proverbial "don't judge a book by its' cover" rings true time and again ;0
led05
Chasing The Present
Hydro can work for some, I'd say indoors in a small grow it can have its place... Especially when hauling in CF of soil is a precarious endeavor...
But I've been in and around Commercial AG for a while and there isn't a single GH running Hydro filled with tomatoes, peppers or cukes (and there are miles of GH around these parts doing just like that, especially across the border to the north in Ont) that taste or provide the nutrients anywhere near what you can get in the ground.
Soil, especially outdoors is truly the best and ONLY option, and once you understand what's going on, its' much easier, much less bug pressures (balance), similar or better yields, MUCH better taste, nutrient density and overall health, did I mention TASTE.
We know what things taste like more intuitively than how they smoke, if you've ever grown your own tomatoes, cukes, peppers, eggplant, carrots, beets or whatever then you know what you get at the store or from the local Hydro farmer basically for lack of better words sucks and is a filler, nothing more......
It amazes me how many go thru life without ever really actually eating well which to me is one of lifes great pleasures and no, I'm not fat or overweight at all, I'm a farmer ;0
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