Shoreline, and SKUD run away to the northeast and get lost in my dresser

[Dr Dog]

im holdin off til there's a decent show :wink:

its like a cliffhanger in a novel........except without the good writing

My mommy is coming along nicely though

You see, I think that is my issue, I come full steam with pics and there is no build up. I think my next run, I am just going to talk about how well they are doin. Are you gonna hold off till clones?

 

[Guest]

You see, I think that is my issue, I come full steam with pics and there is no build up. I think my next run, I am just going to talk about how well they are doin. Are you gonna hold off till clones?

clones should be taken on tuesday. I'm just not with my plants for a week at a time lately and i've been basically stopping in quick to see them and take care of them so haven't really had time for pics. Last time i had the chance, my options were to sit around and take boring pictures of tiny mothers, or get my ass on the road before a big snowstorm hit. I feel like i made the better choice....


I'll take pics when i take the cuts if it makes everone feel better :wink:

Who knows, I might've rescued a shoreline or sourbubble cut along the way and the leaves on my late rooters might be showin enough to tell again (since i already had everybody tell me which leaf looked like which plant )

the plan right now :crosses fingers: is....

tuesday
>15+ cuts taken off my 3 week vegged skud mom
>cuts prepared and put in peat pellets or perlite bed (haven't decided......i have a higher success rate with the perlite beds though so I might actually do individual 6oz cups filled with it)

Jan 22-25
>best 12 rooted cuts put into 6" (actually 5.5") square hydroton filled pots in E&F setup under 250w hps
>started on full strength GH 3 part nutes for veg (not sure if im going modified lucas or whatever i feel like with all 3 parts)
>veg for 1-2 weeks, I'll flip when they hit 9-12"

after that

flower them out, should be done by april 15th


it should start off looking something like this cept with skud plants.




and then later like this...





and then when im done, ill be lookin at a skud mom and saying...




then im gonna stick a bud in my bub like this






and be happy

 

[Dr Dog]

LOL
funny stuff bro

well done, point taken

 

[Guest]

just playin dr dog


im just not in as big a rush as everyone else at the moment so im takin the time to smell the roses and chill

I can't promise anything, but hopefully ill have some real pics up soon

 

[Guest]

and i just posted, so this is kinda a waste to post again.......but...

any opinions on if I should do a denser SOG than this? right now its gonna be just what you see in the pics, 1 plant per 6 inch pot (6 inches on center spacing).
However, I was thinking of doing even 2-4 per pot, cept I was thinking that might be a little much if my ventilation wasn't perfect all the time once those buds start gettin wide and dense.

let me know

 

[Guest]

good luck with the shoreline. i'd recommend letting her go a little longer. ive smoked some samples from the mid-50s to the late-60's and right around 70 seems perfect unless you like uncomfortable edginess, lol.

 

[ethereal]

and be happy cool

cheers my friend

 

[Guest]

SO mostly nopertinent pics but thats just howw it is for this update.

I forgot to take pics before I chopped 17-20 cuts off the skud mom.......not that i was growin her to be pretty before.........now she just looks almost as bad as britney after her head shaving incident.

so here's the decimated skud mom



one of my nigerian nightmare stud males.......not sure if im using this guy who's more single cola and a lil heavier or my other male which is a lil shorter but branchier



It doesn't show well in this pic, but this particular FMS Maroc absolutely loved the dried out soil while the other plants were beggin for water.




here's an overview of the cab before i watered. THis is 7 days without water and bone dry soil.






and here are the unprepared cuts that went into perlite. 17-20 of them here. I expect 14-15 to root ater 2-2.5 weeks.








well thats it for now. All i'm doing at this point is waiting for cuts to root and waiting for my potential parent plants to show sex. Also have been gradually culling out weaker plants to make more space.

 

[Poker_Toker]

Looking good bro. Nice grow and cloning, your doing a great job.
Generally how long are you leaving the clones in the wick cloner before they hit the tables?

How is your sucess rate for popping seeds in a bed of perlite? i am interested this because id rather avoid rockwool altogether. Many thanks for all the great pics and information here

 

[Alfred-cannaria]

 

[Guest]

thanks for stoppin in with your pic alfred. hope alls well with you!

Poker toker: the cuts are ready between 12 and 18 days depending on various factors.

I tossed a little over 30 bagseeds in the perlite bed as a test and buried them with 1 to 2 layers of perlite. I had between 90 and 95% germinate successfully with no pre-soaking whatsoever. Seeds popped within 3 days for the most part but i had some late starters that took up to a week before they found their way out. As I mentioned, these were all just bagseed so you can expect that seeds from a designated seedplant would probably have even better germ rates.

It is much more successful than soil IMHO and it lets them be easily moved to a hydro system without having rockwool or anything like that.

 

[Poker_Toker]

thanks for stoppin in with your pic alfred. hope alls well with you!

Poker toker: the cuts are ready between 12 and 18 days depending on various factors.

I tossed a little over 30 bagseeds in the perlite bed as a test and buried them with 1 to 2 layers of perlite. I had between 90 and 95% germinate successfully with no pre-soaking whatsoever. Seeds popped within 3 days for the most part but i had some late starters that took up to a week before they found their way out. As I mentioned, these were all just bagseed so you can expect that seeds from a designated seedplant would probably have even better germ rates.

It is much more successful than soil IMHO and it lets them be easily moved to a hydro system without having rockwool or anything like that.

Wow yea i see the advantage in this wick method over rockwool, thanks for the great explaination. I read tonnes and tonnes of grow diaries and it seemed the number one failure of germination was rockwool. Id be scared to screw up beans i actually pay for lol. Also saves on the cost of rockwool, i cant exactly buy it here anyway. Heck i already built a wick cloner.
Good thing is the beans are in a perfect moist enviroment in the perlite, and the perlite is always moist providing you keep the reservoir full. Thanks again

 

[Guest]

perlite cloning broken down

perlite cloning broken down

yea, you can just keep that perlite SOAKED. I fill my wick cloner up with pH adjusted tap water (about 200ppm give or take 100ppm). I pour the water through the perlte in the top and let it flow down into the bottom container. I like to drain off the water til its about 1/2" - 1" below where my seeds are. This allows the water to be drawn upwards through the evaporative process and creates a perfect little environment for the seeds.

DOn't get too worried about the lil green algae that grows on the perlite. Its harmless for the most part. If it starts to be too much, just let the top layer dry out a little by leaving off the dome for an hour or so. Once the top layer dries out, the algae will die and eventually turn a little gold/brown color.

I have my best results with a little dome over the seeds until the cotyledons are free. THis will keep your perlite from drying out too fast.

Wait until you see the first set of true leaves get about 1/4"-1/2" long, this is when you'll have a decent little rootmass. By that, I mean that you have the taproot which will be about 4" long and 15-30 hairs off of it. When I get ready to pull them out, I do a little test tug to see if they're ready. A little resistance will indicate a few root hairs grabbing the perlite, which is what you want. I use my finer and open up the area of perlite around the the stems and roots so that I don't rip off the roots. There'll be just enough root mass to grab a little perlite, which you can wash off by just submerging the roots in a cup of water and swishing around for a second. Avod running water if you can, as this might stress the smaller roots. Try to use room temp water so you don't temperature shock them either. Make sure that you can transfer the plants straight to the bubbler or whatever system you're putting them into so they don't dry out while sitting around.

If you end up having a few clones that stick together, don't fret. Just pull them out together, GENTLY, and do the water soak thing with them and carefully separate the root hairs with your fingers. THink of it like untangling your girl's hair. You wouldn't want to tug too hard or she'll get mad, just gotta go light with it and take your time. Remember, these are your babies, ya gotta give them some love.


With clones, use the classic indicators to tell when roots have developed. I like to wait til my cuts start shooting out new growth as my primary indicator. It'll be small, but if you wait 2-4 days after the groth has started, you'll have a nice solid set of roots. However, you can pull the clones out as soon as new growth starts if you want (in most cases) as that means there are at least a few stubbly little root-ish things. It's just quicker overall IMHO to leave them til there are decent roots so they take off quicker when they hit the table or bubblers.

With clones, i like to keep the water level in the perlite about 1/2 way up the submerged-in-perlite portion of the stem. This seems to keep them the happiest. A nice long 2-3" stem is preferable and will root more consistently than clones with shorter stems.

anything i missed?

a few pics from back in septtember with strawberry diesel X new york city diesel (courtesy buck aka AnnaC Medicinal Seeds) and Mist of Destruction menage a trois (did i mention that buck (AnnaC) puts out amazing genetics consistently and is downright amazing both as a grower, breeder, and person? well he is!)

 

[Guest]

my ambient temps are too low so my cuts are taking a while to root. It'll be another week before there's any good development.
i'll check back in when something develops

 

[dankster707]

ahhh i cant wait to see the skud flowering!

 

[sqwirl]

Nice Thread, Especially like post #93

Good Job and Keep up the good work!

 

[Guest]

Nice Thread, Especially like post #93

Good Job and Keep up the good work!

hey sqwirl
glad to have ya stop in!
ya know i'm a fan of your "ways of the sqwirl" thread, so its cool seein ya over here.


hey dankster 707
The ladies going right now are about a week into flower. Pics will be posted once there is something good.

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I've kept one of mossy's male AF's. I had a few males, most were normal looking. However, the one i kept has the darkest purple pollen sacks I've ever seen.

I have a few cuts of skud rooting, though i pulled up about 24 cuts that were 1 week into the cloning process because i needed to lower my plant count.

Lowering the plant count was also part of the reason i culled a couple MOD menage a trois males, 3 AF males, a BH cross male, and a runt Maroc female. A couple nigerian nightmare autoflowering males were also culled a week or two ago so they wouldn't be spewing so much pollen and taking up space.

I'm left with several females including:
1 or 2 AF's
3 menage a trois
3 Blockhead crosses (sativa leaning, probably pollinated by my mexi sativa outdoors last summer before i chopped him, but possibly pollinated by something else nearby that I was unaware of).
2 or 3 marocs

had to pull one female (all the skuds are female) skud tonight because of a root rot issue i couldn't fix with a small dose of hydrogen peroxide. Not enough air got to the roots for a week or so, which i believe to be a major contributor to the root rot situation.

the rest of the skuds

1 bushy one with 3-4 week of veg (hoping for 1.5-2 Ozs)
2 taller one with 2 weeks veg
3 just rooted clones
2 cuts that may or may not complete rooting


all skuds are in dwc/swc
everything else is in soil, except for 1 menage a trois in the 2 qt swc container.


skuds will stay in the 150w cab through flowering

other plants, except for the 1 menage a trois in swc, will be moved to a homebuilt 250w tent by the end of the week and transplanted into larger containers (those blue cups they're in now are definitely slowing them down). These plants (in the tent) will all be used for seed. That means full pollination. I may try to isolate the single male (the AF thats heavily purpled) with a clear bag or something, as i plan on getting some silver and making some collodial silver solution to dip one or two females in. to act as my stand in male(s) and crate some feminized seeds for outdoor this season.

when I have a good connection, ill get up some pics.
Until then, here are a few of Mossy's AF's (they're just thirsty, not dieing) from about a week ago. The one in the square black container in back is the one that is my stud purple male.

 

[dankster707]

hey irish post sum pics of those skuds i have always wanted to see one flowering ive jus seen alot of the finished product PLEASE!!!!!!