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[Borderliner]

National Institute of Health says 10 mg is upper level of safe per day. Like you said, many take 2 or 3 times that.

Loc Doc

I'd like to see it. Wonder how that was determined.

The rda for vit c in adult males is 90 mg. And is based primarily on the prevention of deficiency disease (scurvy), rather than the proactive promotion of optimum health. I take about 7-8 grams vit c a day and have taken as much as 15 grams a day.

There is no rda for borax so how the nih determined 10mg is the upper dose for safe use is interesting. What I can tell you is I know dozens of folks including some docs who take more than that and report no ill effects.
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[Borderliner]

Did find this

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/894.html

They talk about 20mg day of boron. Borax breaks down to boron and at one time knew the math to convert borax in mg to boron in mg but not tonight. I think there is 11% borax in equal wt dose of boron.
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Toward the middle of this article talks about toxicity and the lethal dose is 3-6 grams per kilo body wt.

http://newparadigmdigest.com/5706/a...rom-boron-bentonite-clay-and-fulvic-minerals/

 

[RetroGrow]

Dat

I got it and not taking it the wrong way. On the other forum hear that a lot from first time users. Never heard of any bad reaction to it, there really is no down side. No side effects, it doesn't exchange with other minerals in the body say like Zinc can depletes Copper in the body.

So don't take my word for it that's what those links are for. I'd start at the iodine forum since it has much more info on borax and use the search and just search the iodine forum for borax. In fact that is what this link is. Hope it comes through.

http://curezone.info/forums/search.asp?q=borax&action=Find&f=815

The only way I gained enough confidence to try it was after reading up on it from folks who tried it and liked it. BTW never read a negative post about it myself.

The only reason I'm going on about it is from what you described I'm fairly certain you could benefit.
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"How much boron is toxic? We have discussed the estimation
of boron requirement, which is about 2mg per day (0.000017
ounces). Researchers found the lowest reported lethal dose of boric
acid is about 45 gr. (1.6 ounce) for an adult and 2 gr. (0.07 ounces)
for an infant." [This ends Young's paper. Dr. Newnham shows that
6mg per day of boron (.000213 ounces) is necessary for good health.

Just sayin. It can be toxic, so don't take too much.
Here's a good article on boron:

http://arthritistrust.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Boron-and-Arthritis.pdf

 

[Borderliner]

RetroGrow

After my read of the article noted the references went from the 1950's and one up to 1980's. A good read. Didn't know some countries, new zealand, have greater than 10mg daily intake from dietary sources alone. Think usa was 1-2mg daily from dietary sources.

That's different for me as my due diligence started with current work then going back. Would recommend the iodine and borax forum links as a source for the leading edge for anyone interested.
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[supreme bean]

If its for artheritis.Apple cyder Vinegar is wot u need.Cancers and artheritis thive in an acidic enviroment.Alcohol is a carcinogenic.it mades the body acidic.Making the body more Alkaline will cure alot of illnessses.

 

[LEF]

I support supreme bean's post about ACV (apple cider vinegar)

it's sort of a folk remedy for a lot of illnesses

if you ever decide to go buy some, buy the one that has "with mother" written on the bottle

 

[Ph-patrol]

If its for artheritis.Apple cyder Vinegar is wot u need.Cancers and artheritis thive in an acidic enviroment.Alcohol is a carcinogenic.it mades the body acidic.Making the body more Alkaline will cure alot of illnessses.

Apple cider vinegar local honey and water every day for me.

Great post

 

[med_breeder]

It may sound cray but, I have heard it from 7[8 peeps.


If you are depressed watch iCarly.

It helps.

and/or other nick/disney programs.

 

[Ph-patrol]

My vote for must watch is Derick. Derick is a netflix show that will make you laugh and cry.
If you are feeling the world is filled with jerks,this a must.It will restore your feelings about the kindness of people.


I love ICarly

 

[Borderliner]

My favorite funny movies include Spies like us, Who framed Roger Rabbit, and any Jackie Chan movie.

Don't know if laughter is the best medicine but you can't live without it.
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[RetroGrow]

RetroGrow

After my read of the article noted the references went from the 1950's and one up to 1980's. A good read. Didn't know some countries, new zealand, have greater than 10mg daily intake from dietary sources alone. Think usa was 1-2mg daily from dietary sources.

That's different for me as my due diligence started with current work then going back. Would recommend the iodine and borax forum links as a source for the leading edge for anyone interested.
b

Looked at the forum, but it was a lot of anecdotal "evidence", much of it conflicting. Really couldn't make much sense of it. Lot of "crap" on there, very little evidence. I prefer to listen to scientists/doctors. If arthritis were so easy to cure, millions wouldn't be suffering from it, and the solution wouldn't be hidden away in some obscure internet forum.

 

[Borderliner]

Looked at the forum, but it was a lot of anecdotal "evidence", much of it conflicting. Really couldn't make much sense of it. Lot of "crap" on there, very little evidence. I prefer to listen to scientists/doctors. If arthritis were so easy to cure, millions wouldn't be suffering from it, and the solution wouldn't be hidden away in some obscure internet forum.

RetroGrow

That forum like most is made up of folks who want to help but don't have the knowledge base, some folks who do have the knowledge, and some I don't know what the hell they are doing there.

The usual recommendation is to start with the links at the top of the page "Read this first." The RRR are triple recommended and is where I'd start to get a handle on it. I think that is more manageable than what is often advised to start on page one and there are over 500 pages now. The real gems are within the posts with links to studies backing up opinions.

What I look for is a consensus of opinion especially when it's from folks with a known reputation which you'll only know by doing enough reading.
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[DAT]

man I just don't know , can u dig? , we were going to do it. then I started reading the box and it says
INGENSTION:
Rinse mouth, give a large full glass of milk or water. Do not induce vomiting. Call a physician immediately.
I got the teaspoon out and was gonna give it to my husband right before he went to work and he was scared he might get sick at work .. . Or if he got a boner he couldn't control might get written up for sexual harassment.so wait to try till weekend
im thinking maybe my arthritis isn't that bad yet.. not bad enough to eat be eating laundry detergent yet , not yet.. but its great to know that there is something out there to turn to if things get so bad possible killing myself through using Borax or miracle cure isn't such a bad option.

 

[Borderliner]

Just to be clear the lethal dose of borax is the same as the lethal dose of table salt 3,000mg or 3grams.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1473187

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[DAT]

the lethal dose for salt is only 3 GRAMS!! ?shit I eat that on my McDonalds Super sIzed French frys all the time. now im def not doing Borax. good info B!

 

[Borderliner]

the lethal dose for salt is only 3 GRAMS!! ?shit I eat that on my McDonalds Super sIzed French frys all the time. now im def not doing Borax. good info B!

that's 3 grams per kilo of body wt. so a 60 kilo person would be 180 grams.

I'm out of this discussion. At curezone there are 2 iodine forums. One is debate which I have no interest in and the other is iodine support forum which I find most helpful. Just don't have the wherewithal to debate. I bring up those topics when think someone might benefit as I did.

Health is truly one of the most valuable thing we possess just ask any sick person especially rich ones. There are many paths to health and many treatments for the same illness. I support all of them.
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[med_breeder]

On top of all my issues....

I have the hottest cousins. My female family member are so, attractive. no perv, just saying.

I am a single guy "cursed" with super hot Aunts and cousins.

 

[med_breeder]

I live in a state that is not friendly to our cause.
Yesterday I was soo depressed That I purchased some vodka.
I wish I could have legally purchased marijuna.
Long story short, I wake up feeling sh%tty as phuck!

Where are the soulless capitalist?
Why is there not an Army out there fighting for my 30 bucks?
Where is "Big Weed?"

 

[RetroGrow]

RetroGrow

That forum like most is made up of folks who want to help but don't have the knowledge base, some folks who do have the knowledge, and some I don't know what the hell they are doing there.

The usual recommendation is to start with the links at the top of the page "Read this first." The RRR are triple recommended and is where I'd start to get a handle on it. I think that is more manageable than what is often advised to start on page one and there are over 500 pages now. The real gems are within the posts with links to studies backing up opinions.

What I look for is a consensus of opinion especially when it's from folks with a known reputation which you'll only know by doing enough reading.
b

Just saying, I'll go with the studies of Rex E. Newnham, Ph.D., D.O., N.D. He is widely recognized as the guru of boron. Not dismissing boron as a possible solution for osteoporosis and arthritis.

 

[med_breeder]

"JusT SNAP OUT OF IT!"

"What do you have to be depressed about?"

I will never utter those statements. I have endured the pain maybe to simply be there for one other human.


What does it feel like to not be scared 24/7?
To feel that in 1 minute a meteor will wipe out my city.


I'm sorry. Things are so dry at the moment.
So I medicate with booze.
Somewhere, under the same flag, adults can legally buy 1 oz.


not here though...