Severe Depression

[SPG.]

? Sure Thing DV thats the Idea of The Quit Alcohol Thread..


,I see the "Alcohol" discussion goes at least a page back!..
Im on 43 days Cold Turkey today..And after Reading "This/these" Now i feel like a Drink.. :-/ (........maybe a litl' sip..)
.....:-D BUT NO WAY!

Nope,my "ROAD LICENCE" . day will come... (after Doc Inspection that is )


Yep totally Relevant but IM OUTTA HERE!... lol

 

[xxPeacePipexx]

not all meditation is good for rest and calming the mind. The only thing that works for me is having a good allotment of time set aside to do my artwork when im stoned.

Mediation is so misunderstood in general within the western world . All too often people think of some mantra like Ohm and the lotus position being mandatory ..

As you commented , some types will give you energy and stimulation but these too can be relaxing , kinda line nicotine , it too is a stimulant that relaxes people somehow one way or another . I would think though that the most energetic meditation would be Kundalini and this is not something just anyone should jump into .

Sounds like your art and time spent on it is your own meditation . Often I find enough meditation time just taking care of the garden with a zen state of mindfulness .. Again so many ways to meditate but I think most depressed people overlook personal time and its benefits - usually most just want to be away from their own self verses spending time gaining a true understanding of oneself .

 

[theJointedOne]

Borderliner,

Welcome to IC!!

I have done US bong, one hits since 1983. Coughed up crap every day. Switched to Arizer extreme-q vape, which has adjustable temperature. THC is consumed, but no smoke, or crap in your lungs.

I have no connection to them, but love the product, and the benefit to my health.

Amen

I use an arizer Solo and am about to give up combustion again here in a couple days. I did darn near a year of barely and smoking all vaping and the effects are amazing. I still get vapor resin in the lungs but it isnt something that makes you cough up black and brown specs ect..usually the vapor resin in the lungs is a very light golden color, if you exercise regularly you wont even notice it, but if you are a couch potato vapor head you will be building up a decent ammount of golden vapor in the lungs...now is that bad? heck if I know, i know its not as bad as combustion resin!

Vaping ftw!


also great post mr gt.

 

[Borderliner]

Loc Dog

Thanks for the welcome and info on vaps. Have not tried yet but is on my list. I'm more than 8 weeks into curing my crop and can tell the difference now. Smoother with almost no cough even from bong.

Alcohol is a depressant. If that hasn't been said enough already. Really the heart of the matter as I see it is motivation. Never knew an alcoholic who woke up one day and decided alcohol was bad and quit drinking.

Known many who got beat up from drinking and when the pain was bad enough then found some motivation to want to stop drinking. Pain is our friend it tells us stuff we just can't admit to ourselves or know otherwise. All of their and other folks rational thinking about the effects of alcohol, good examples others have given and lived by on how to stop drinking, and the hopes and desires of those who love them count for naught.

Motivation comes from within oneself. Boss's threatening the sack, spouses threatening to leave, the courts threatening jail time and such are sometimes called movers. They can't provide motivation only what the consequences of continued drinking will be.

Hitting a bottom with all the losses of friends, family, economics, health, and all that goes with it can bring a blessed message to home. A message that won't be heard by other means. Some folks will need therapeutic measures even doctors to stay sober. But before that the message has to hit home. Not by nagging or however well intentioned and articulated. A person wanting to quit has to want to do it for themselves in order to stay sober. Doing so for the spouse or the boss or the court just won't work alone.

b

 

[mendo-local]

Struggling with a huge loss right now. I've never been depressed at all in the past but now is as bad as it gets. I started drinking heavy to numb the pain but it made it worse. Stopped drinking but I still struggle with getting out of bed. This is all fresh and I hope I can figure out how to process this loss.

 

[DAT]

I find breathing exercises help calm my mind.

In through the nose for 7 second count

Hold for 2 seconds

breath slowly out the mouth your entire lungs full in 8 seconds.

repeat for 30 minutes in a comfortable quiet room

edit- yes i agree with above, yes flouride does suck!

Thanks, I tried but couldn't go more than 7 minutes. I'm just mentally not in a place to do that type of therapy, but I will remember this simple method approach.appreciate your kindness

 

[DAT]

Struggling with a huge loss right now. I've never been depressed at all in the past but now is as bad as it gets. I started drinking heavy to numb the pain but it made it worse. Stopped drinking but I still struggle with getting out of bed. This is all fresh and I hope I can figure out how to process this loss.

I'm here for u

 

[Ph-patrol]

Struggling with a huge loss right now. I've never been depressed at all in the past but now is as bad as it gets. I started drinking heavy to numb the pain but it made it worse. Stopped drinking but I still struggle with getting out of bed. This is all fresh and I hope I can figure out how to process this loss.

Mendo I think what your going through is situational depression. Witch can be very hard. Its hard to come to terms with a important loss. You need to grieve. I think drinking after a loss stops or stunts the processes. Glad to see you have stopped and your reaching out a bit.
Find a friend or loved one to process with can help you cope.
If your alone in your loss you may want to speak to a therapist.

Hope this message finds you well.

 

[Borderliner]

Struggling with a huge loss right now. I've never been depressed at all in the past but now is as bad as it gets. I started drinking heavy to numb the pain but it made it worse. Stopped drinking but I still struggle with getting out of bed. This is all fresh and I hope I can figure out how to process this loss.

mendo-local

Sorry for your loss. 1+ on finding someone to talk with ftf. Let us know how things go.
b

 

[DarthFader1]

Drinking is exactly another act that's drives you down into a hole. Not just being dependent on booze but that it causes sever Depression.
The drinking the caffeine and bad eating habits lead to longer deeper depressive states. Then Ohh I dont feel good get me some antidepressants to fix the problem.

Eliminate the bad and add the positive. There is plenty of info at your finger tips.

Great post

Amen brother.

Bad eating habits are absolutely a huge part to play in depression. And so is regular exercise. And so is regular sleeping hours. Ive been on a very healthy diet lately consisting of fruits and vegetables, nuts, and a little lean meat, lots of blueberry & kale smoothies, ZERO processed food or sugars and the difference in my state of mind is like night and day. Not too mention my skin looks a lot cleaner than when i eat crap.

It ain't easy, it takes discipline & willpower, and even then its easy to trip up. But keep trying and never give up no matter what.

Regarding the vaporizers i have also just invested in a Da Vinci portable vape with glass water bubbler for on top. Have given up blazing all together. Infact i tried to hit my bong last nite and my lungs were like "no bitch, i thought we had a deal, you vape and i don't drop you to the floor in uncontrollable coughing spasms"

darth

 

[leyus]

This thread is very depressing... I better stop reading.

 

[DAT]

I drink beer often.my favorite is 32 Oz can of colors light.i drank 1 last night and slept really well.just like a Lil baby.. Or maybe it was smashing my head on the storage rack on the train. Am I the only one that prefers solitude to being around people.i can't tell u how much happier I am when I'm all alone.i get nervous around most people.

 

[SPG.]

.. Doses... i use to call em DAT!
We all need to be Around Folk,then we need Space..then other Duties/CHORES etc etc problem is IF those folk "conflict" (abit)..then that stays in ya head for a "Short/LONG amount of time!!??:rolleyes :"..etc etc.... Can be like a Pathetic "Tug of War"... "c'mon really.."

..Making food Rocks!!!..


["Halloween" Tomorrow! ]

 

[DAT]

High Spg.ya mate I totally relate.cheers.i have some special halloween tricks and treats 4 u ...so stay tuned

 

[Ph-patrol]

Amen brother.

Bad eating habits are absolutely a huge part to play in depression. And so is regular exercise. And so is regular sleeping hours. Ive been on a very healthy diet lately consisting of fruits and vegetables, nuts, and a little lean meat, lots of blueberry & kale smoothies, ZERO processed food or sugars and the difference in my state of mind is like night and day. Not too mention my skin looks a lot cleaner than when i eat crap.

It ain't easy, it takes discipline & willpower, and even then its easy to trip up. But keep trying and never give up no matter what.

Regarding the vaporizers i have also just invested in a Da Vinci portable vape with glass water bubbler for on top. Have given up blazing all together. Infact i tried to hit my bong last nite and my lungs were like "no bitch, i thought we had a deal, you vape and i don't drop you to the floor in uncontrollable coughing spasms"

darth

To thoughts who have questions of what a positive diet is Darth explains exactly the diet. I eat lots of fish too. But Darth nailed it.
It was a bit of a life style change but now I cant stomach my old way of eating.

Darth

 

[Borderliner]

DarthFader1

giving up processed foods and refined food stuff like sugar can be tough. was for me anyhow. I started working that when I researched iodine about 18 months ago. it's hard for me to tell how much difference it made as I was going through a lot of changes since then but know it is worth it. switched from all other forms of oil as well. now only use coconut and olive oil. the main thing for me has been not ingesting fluoride and bromide. bromide is a bitch as it is so widespread in the usa. it's used as a fire retardant in carpet, drapes, cars, soft drinks such as Mt.Dew is packed with it, various rx meds, even household flour.

can find flour without it just look for it on the label "bromide free." have been on distilled water to cut out the fluoride and other toxins in the tap water around here. the water company provides an analysis of the water and many toxins are below the allowed limit. Sorry, don't want any myself.

the lakes around here are contaminated with heavy metal from the prospecting day here in the Silver State. the health dept recommends pregnant women only eat one fish a year from those wates. hey, that stuff stays in our bodies and accumulates so I don't any of it. it helps to know where the commercial or sport fish was caught.

have come to realize compassion toward our fellows is probably the most important thing in life. that is what separates us from animals. my problem was learning what love is in a family that didn't know what love was either. tough love is good. tough love without compassion is not. learning how to blend the two has been a life long lesson for me. learning what is false charity what is true charity and then how to live that is one of the highest goals one can strive toward I believe.

for us to survive as a species, for us to reach our potential as humans all depends on love. for those of us suffering depression clearly...we need to start with loving ourselves. and if your like me you'll have to find someone to explain to you what love is or get it out of a book cause I didn't learn it from my family.

just got back from the pain doc. and now finally have medicare part D am starting some formally expensive lidoderm patches. they are so good for my particular chronic pain. should be able to wean down some of the pain pills which is a plus for clearer thinking.
b

 

[DarthFader1]

Yeah i find socializing extremely draining for me personally unless i be with someone extremely interesting. I have a INTJ personality and the social aspects are not our best quality. I just don't care enough i guess, and i think i enjoy my own company just a bit too much yo

 

[DarthFader1]

To thoughts who have questions of what a positive diet is Darth explains exactly the diet. I eat lots of fish too. But Darth nailed it.
It was a bit of a life style change but now I cant stomach my old way of eating.

Darth

Yes, fish, i forgot too mention those delicious little suckers. I LOVE seafood and eat plenty! Had a juicy piece of salmon fillet last night (non farm raised) with sweet potatoes and steamed vegetables. It was delicious.

It's funny you say how you cannot stomach your old way of eating PH. This is exactly what i experienced. After eating clean food for even like 2 weeks i had one slip up a while back and ate some junkfood takeaways. Well i payed the price bigtime. Woke up the next morning with the hugest stomach ache feeling nauseous as a mo fo. It was horrible. My body was rejecting the crap food.

Now that's progress right there

darth

 

[DarthFader1]

DarthFader1

giving up processed foods and refined food stuff like sugar can be tough. was for me anyhow. I started working that when I researched iodine about 18 months ago. it's hard for me to tell how much difference it made as I was going through a lot of changes since then but know it is worth it. switched from all other forms of oil as well. now only use coconut and olive oil. the main thing for me has been not ingesting fluoride and bromide. bromide is a bitch as it is so widespread in the usa. it's used as a fire retardant in carpet, drapes, cars, soft drinks such as Mt.Dew is packed with it, various rx meds, even household flour.

can find flour without it just look for it on the label "bromide free." have been on distilled water to cut out the fluoride and other toxins in the tap water around here. the water company provides an analysis of the water and many toxins are below the allowed limit. Sorry, don't want any myself.

the lakes around here are contaminated with heavy metal from the prospecting day here in the Silver State. the health dept recommends pregnant women only eat one fish a year from those wates. hey, that stuff stays in our bodies and accumulates so I don't any of it. it helps to know where the commercial or sport fish was caught.

have come to realize compassion toward our fellows is probably the most important thing in life. that is what separates us from animals. my problem was learning what love is in a family that didn't know what love was either. tough love is good. tough love without compassion is not. learning how to blend the two has been a life long lesson for me. learning what is false charity what is true charity and then how to live that is one of the highest goals one can strive toward I believe.

for us to survive as a species, for us to reach our potential as humans all depends on love. for those of us suffering depression clearly...we need to start with loving ourselves. and if your like me you'll have to find someone to explain to you what love is or get it out of a book cause I didn't learn it from my family.

just got back from the pain doc. and now finally have medicare part D am starting some formally expensive lidoderm patches. they are so good for my particular chronic pain. should be able to wean down some of the pain pills which is a plus for clearer thinking.
b

Hey man, thanks for sharing yo. I also found processed foods but moreso SUGAR extremely hard to get off.

I really liked the rest of the post though. Particularly the bolded bit. Ive had these thoughts / feelings floating round inside me too about how humans treat each other/ animals/ the planet. Some of this stuff makes me SOOOOOO sad i just have to block it out its the only way i can deal with the pain from this planet.

I hope one day when we're long gone future generations of humans (if they're still around) will have figured all this stuff out.


Best wishes
darth

 

[DAT]

do you like my Halloween Costume? I will be a Girl scout cookie
SMOKE ME!
I decorated my tent for Halloween. I will hide in my costume in my studio on Halloween harvesting my C99 so no one knows im home.!i m not answering the door for any of those fuckin brats.lol... have you ever seen a super lemon haze bud so MCFREAKIN big. HAHA
like you Darth people are soooo draining OMG. leave me the fuck ALONE> already.lol
HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!!!!!!!