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Seeds of Africa seedbank???
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Shun, shun the non believer!!!
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jay sus
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hi. i was cloning and puttin´seeds to germ and put 4 of zamals to soak. but i totally forgot that i was supposed to categorize and take pics of em. being in the moment as usual. but beans are really uniform in size(large),coloration(dark) & al. if they germ i take photos of them & post.
I ran the soa Durban. 2 females ran for nld dom characeristics. most of the soa Durban was wld dom that I sprouted.
good weed. no purple bud but purple stems.
wasn't good enough to compete with best of other landraces imo. lots of genetic diversity. someone could find a really good keeper cut maybe.
trying to sprout nguni durban but no pop so far.
good weed. no purple bud but purple stems.
wasn't good enough to compete with best of other landraces imo. lots of genetic diversity. someone could find a really good keeper cut maybe.
trying to sprout nguni durban but no pop so far.
Genghis Kush
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was thinking about the licorice taste today...
the Sam/Mel Franks Durban Poison seeds have been in South Africa (and everywhere else) for decades now. I wonder how much it has influenced the gene pool?
the Sam/Mel Franks Durban Poison seeds have been in South Africa (and everywhere else) for decades now. I wonder how much it has influenced the gene pool?
ima try dutch passion, I know its prolly hybred but i heard good things n the best weed i ever smoked was some durban poison with a anise smell and taste. Heres a link to my smoke report, damn that was some dope....
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=231890
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=231890
SpaceJunkOG
Member
here ya go....
Seeds Of Africa
Swazi Gold (pheno #1)
Swazi Gold (pheno #2) - cob cured and traditionally cured
so far by the growth / smell / smoke of this SoA gear, it's all just interbreeding in the wild, . . . . . there's been some broad leaflet genetics introduced at some point but very little - most of the plants need at least 13 - 14 weeks minimum to flower. they all smell like mangos, pineapple and carrots (all the SoA gear it seems so far by my accounts and those of others). There are super NLD phenos that look like the purest Sativa you've ever seen, and there are some that have noticeable BLD / Indica growth traits. They are all lanky and stretchy - even the ones with noticeable indica effects & bud structure did not seem to inherit the beneficial stocky short-internode structure of classic indicas. Structurally, they all look like typical sativas though for the most part. (I've grown about 20 now but thrown most of them away by early flower as they start to show sex / defects / lack of vigor, it is hard to find a good one and i still haven't yet).
SMOKE: I can only report on Swazi #1 & #2 as I haven't sampled the Mozambica yet (i don't believe in early sampling, not a good barometer of the high) -
Swazi #1 was more indica influenced - you can see it in the growth structure and the bud. I would actually compare the smoke to Power Plant or Durban (Dutch Durban) - essentially, a "dumbed down" version of pure south african sativa. The most noticeable difference is that the high of the Swazi lasts considerably longer than those - the highs of PP and DP are notably short by most accounts - like an hour and you're done. The Swazi lasts longer than most other strains I've smoked. There is a fuzziness in the head common with indica that I don't like - i am looking for the ultimate CLEAR weed. This isn't it, but it's certainly a nice afternoon-evening smoke. This phenotype was far more potent than the 2nd phenotype as well, which I expected by its appearance and growth structure. It's still far less potent than a commercial strain, i grew it next to Durban (Dutch) and PowerPlant and they get me nice and toasted after a little pinner joint - but the Swazi takes at least a full fat joint to get me there, more like a cone really.
Swazi #2 - could have flowered for 16 weeks+ if i let her. I pulled her at 13 I believe due to extreme hermaphroditism and pollinating all my other sensi plants in the room. So, she's culled early, less of those THC precursors got the chance to mature into THC, and it has an altered cannabinoid profile because of this. That said - this one is much less potent, smells not as strong, and is generally of inferior potency and "quality", in those regards (not talking about quality of high yet) - she has cured now for 2 months and I'm finally starting to get buzzed off her when I do a spliff test every 2 weeks or so. I think this strain needs at least another 6 month cure to reach optimal. The high is very nice and uplifting, positive, and has more of the clarity I seek, and is increasing with each smoke test - however there is still the slight fuzziness i associate with indica that i don't like, that said it's much more clear-headed than say a Power Plant or Dutch Durban. It feels like it's half way in between PP/DP and "the holy grail" of what I'm seeking - which is the absolute (or closest-to) purest south african sativa with a clear-headed high with zero after-effect.
In other news the SoA Mozambica herm'ed out fully at day 80 and started throwing bananas like an angry monkey, seeded itself thoroughly (hundreds), and is no longer the winner pheno I had thought it was. I'm gonna let her go all the way though, 16 - 18 weeks, and at least see what the full potential of it is when grown to maturity.
FWIW - i feel it necessary to add; i run my ppms at around half of normal for these landraces - usually in the 450 - 550 range - chemical ferts every other week, AACT's every other week. The room is absolutely light-sealed, the temps are 68F - 80F without exception, the humidity is 45%, and every other environmental (errrr, artificial environmental factor) is dialed in. The only stress I put on these plants is through training and supercropping, multi-topping, and potentially by keeping them in 3Gal pots, as they are so large i think maybe they need a larger container, they're rootbound within week 2 of flower and they've got another 14 to go!! That is the thing I wonder about with the herm'ing, how much of it is stress induced from these factors.
This was also the case with both phenos of the Swazi - hundreds of seeds, extremely hermaphroditic. And I grow completely seedless stuff in there all the time. The Swazi's both herm'ed early in flower - like by day 30 or 40 i think. This Mozambica pheno took till day 80 which is better, and I did break her branches, tie her up, tie her down, and generally supercrop the living shit out of her to make her fit inside, so I suppose it could be stress-induced. That is the other thing - these genetics come from the wild, not from breeders. maybe the plants are angrily throwing bananas to tell me that they don't like being confined to a 3Gal pot under artificial light with their branches all tied up.
I am really curious to hear other people who have grown SoA stuff and how seeded it was / how hermaphroditic it was. I know it's common with wild types just curious about this particular seed company, if this is normal, or if OD growers have different results, or people using larger containers. This will influence my decision whether or not to keep trying SoA strains or go with something more tried and tested like say an Ace Malawi or Zamaldelica.
SpaceJunkOG
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I ended up going with Sensi Seeds' version and was really pleased at the outcome - yes, it is hybridized and not "pure" durban, but it's a great compromise for what it is, and it still maintains most of the positive qualities of the real thing. The "Dutch Passion vs Sensi Seeds" Durban war is well documented if you search around, it's hard to discern what's hype and what's real. I've had bad experiences with dutch passion and no experience with sensi seeds so i decided to give them a shot. No clue what the Dutch Passion would be like but there's plenty of positive & negative reports on both of them.
Here was my keeper female...
Smoke report: highly promising, but inconclusive; harvested 2wks ago and this strain needs more cure time (durban seems notorious for needing a longer cure, power plant is the same), still burping it and getting the funk out of the jar, smoke is harsh and yucky right now but a very light euphoric buzz. expecting the potency to increase greatly after a couple months more cure as it seems to do with these Africans especially. Harvested at 8+wks / ~60days but could've taken it to 70+.
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Genghis Kush
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thanks for the report SpaceJunkOG
if you can find the lemon smelling pheno in Dutch Passions DP, it is truly excellent
if you can find the lemon smelling pheno in Dutch Passions DP, it is truly excellent
SpaceJunkOG
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I think I've had that one! But not grown it. . . . . there was some Durban that came through here a while back that had none of the anise smell but all of the same floral undertones / spice rack smells as durban and a citrus hint - it smoked exactly like durban, same high. maybe that was the stuff.... i cleared out the local dispensary that had it lol
CannaZen
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Thank you for your thoughts and documentation, It is great to hear another’s thoughts on these seeds.
I cant contribute much on this yet but the latest Transkei seedling has a more sativa appearance in leaves compared to the others, comparable to the mextiza only it has remained shorter than even cannabiogen's Pakistan Chitral Kush, as i've said it has not wilted once yet from dry soil while all the others have at some point. These attributes (so far) seem to match the descriptive climate
I cant contribute much on this yet but the latest Transkei seedling has a more sativa appearance in leaves compared to the others, comparable to the mextiza only it has remained shorter than even cannabiogen's Pakistan Chitral Kush, as i've said it has not wilted once yet from dry soil while all the others have at some point. These attributes (so far) seem to match the descriptive climate
, I hope the end result will also be
.
Do you have to speak african? hahahah.....
Has anyone gotten a smell of 'old/stale gasoline/petrol' (has a weird sweet smell which is quite unique, although alittle unpleasant when the whole garage is filled with the smell!)
I have a male and a female SOA Malawi Gold which have this smell when I rub their stem... another kindof has the smell, but not as strong.... (they're also totally green, when some of their siblings who were in the same conditions went purple...)
I've smelt a similar smell on a Mangobiche (cannabiogen) male.... although a little different....
And one of the SOA Malawi Gold smelled like Pelargonium (an ornamental flowering plant)
I hate the smell of Pelargonium!! hahaha...
Oh well... the smell seems to have changed a bit now.... its quite pungent/astringent....
Genghis Kush
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hey Jay sus,
whats the big plant on the left in that pic?
looks interesting
whats the big plant on the left in that pic?
looks interesting
Genghis Kush
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right on, thanks
