Seedlings are sprouting in coco - what now? First grow!

[Guest]

bonecarver, honored to have you stop by, man. Ya know, I had actually thought of doing something like that. Over a year ago, Ms mojo and I decided we were pissed enough at what the electric bill was running that we decided to heat the house with two kerosene Heatmate heaters. Don't laugh, dude. It was probably one of the best money saving moves I've ever made. We just pull the tanks out, fill em with #1 kerosene and they heat whatever rooms we want them to and we flip em off when we go to bed. One gal lasts for about 15 hours and we generally only run em for a few hours at a time. Figure our cost for heating this year to be about $125-$150.

If I were to pull one into the office/grow closet area and run it till it got pretty warm in there, seems like I could kick it off and the room would just keep recycling the CO2 till the plants depleted it a little and then it'd be time to crank it back up. The A/C would cool the place back down soon enough and the CO2 would still be kickin. But I may just go ahead and order a system like I was talking about. Be nice to have it during flowering I think. Rather than jack around with the little 20 pounders, I'm thinking I would go ahead and go to one of the local industrial gas suppliers, tell em my wife got me a Mig Welder for my birthday and hook up with one of the big boy bottles. I'm thinking one of those would probably last an entire grow. Not sure though.

Anyway bc, thanks again for stopping by. Your input is welcomed anytime, dude.

 

[jimmyyourroll]

c02 will give you more yeild but it wont up potency

 

[jimmyyourroll]

yourplants look healthy enough just keep doing as your doing pm me if you need to 7 years hand watering in coco

 

[jimmyyourroll]

change when you can see a root ball after you tap out the pot all the coco will stick to the roots of the plant

 

[Guest]

lookin good mojizzel lol real good

ne pre-flowers yet

i think i got 3 males outta 4 not sure yet, i kinda fucked them up with not having a set light cycle earlier on

 

[Guest]

Thanks, aizen. Dude sorry to hear the news about all the testosterone poisoning happening in your garden. I'd pull em out, seclude em, put bags over their balls and collect their pollen. Then I'd pick me a nice flower or two, gather some pollen with a Qtip, pollinate the flowers I picked and grow me some seeds in a couple of flowers for future grows.

jimmyyourroll, thanks for the offer, dude. I might take you up on it. Sounds like you're definitely acquainted with the medium. I'm really happy I chose coco to grow in. Seems like whatever I am able to fuck up on, coco is giving me a do-over on. Ganja mulligan, love it.

 

[Guest]

yea i was thinkin about that

but i see these grows as test grows for now

so when i get some expensive seeds i wont fuck them up lmfao, still tryina get my room dialed in just right im almost there

gonna get 6 new strains for my next grow kalichakra, speed queen, hindu kush, bubblisious, white rhino

yo u remember how i said i was done buyin shit, lmfao im @ walmart lookin at all the garden shit now just wondering what i can take home, then i saw that they have RO water there which i went nuts over lmfao shits ridiculous

 

[jimmyyourroll]

i just poped 10 kalichakra in day before yesterday hoping to see leaves in the next few days

 

[jimmyyourroll]

i have also gown white satin and satori in my last grow with great resutlts over 1 pound of bud under a 400 watt sodium and a 250 halide. i use the 400 on top and the 250 underneath

 

[gaiusmarius]

gm I don't know how tall they'll get when I do flip them. I've heard that a grower can plan on the plants being three times the height of when they were put into veg. Right now, the shortest is 8 inches and the tallest is 10. The runt that was burned is the shortest. I've got a plan... I'll let you decide, hehehehehe. I'm thinking that I'd sort of like to see em get about 3 to 4 feet total. But I really don't know, when it all comes down to it. The AIs seem to be bushier than the WWs but one of the WWs is a kick ass looking plant. It'll probably be a male, hehe. You're the WW expert, dude. Nobody does em any better than you do! What would you do?

My plans are to put them under all 1000 watts of lighting. My lights are HPS/MH switchable so all I'll have to do is take out the MH bulbs and screw in the HPS. My 600W HPSputs out 95,000 lumens and the 400W comes in at about 50,000 lumens. The lights will be at different heights due to that difference so that all the plants will receive about the same intensity.

My thinking is I'd like to let em go another week or so now that I'm giving them all nutes. I plan to feed at increasing ec amounts, yesterdays was at 1.0, maybe tomorrow's ec at 1.15 and Monday's at 1.3. Keep em at that for several days, let em get some strong growth going and then flip em. What do you think of that regimen? If you would do any different, just let me know, dude.

yeah you make a good point, we still don't know how many females you will end up with. normally speaking
50% are females. so that leaves you with 2 female plants, so yes, they will need to be allowed to grow another week or even 10 days before you flip them. as long as you have enough head room that is?

I'm going to put up some pics I just took to give you a better idea of what type growth they really have going right now.

The WWs






The AIs



And the group

the plants are all looking quite healthy, what i would do is put the smallest plants a bit nearer the light then the bigger ones. lift the smaller ones so they get more light and can try and catch up. not that you have to worry as in coco a plant like the ww will go to 4 times it's hight, specially when flowered small. as the plant forces it's self to get as big as possible before it starts producing flowers. the aurora, is actually a NL as far as i know, which is also quite a stretchy plant, 3 times it's hight will be no surprise.

Another thing... do you think CO2 would be a good thing to get going. If you do, let me know and I'll PM you and tell you about my growroom and a few questions I might need to address. Awe fuck it! I'll go ahead and get into it now, maybe others might like to get in on the CO2 thing with us.

OK, the money isn't the issue, not that I have the money for an elaborate setup right now. I've sort of been looking to get into it by spending about $150-$200 for a single or double bottle regulator. I don't want to spend the money to get one of those ridiculously high Cap systems right now. I'm thinking what I mentioned would work well enough for me right now - comes with regulator, hose, etc. My questions are these:

1) My grow closet is part of my office, actually my office is a bedroom in the house that was unused. It's small about 12 x 15 feet. All the air for the grow closet comes from and returns to this office. I have an 11,000 btu window A/C installed that helps keep the environment in the grow closet more or less stable at about 40-50% rh and 78-81 degrees. I really set the whole thing up with CO2 in mind by making the grow closet reliant upon the office for it's environment. Air will just recirculate, with the A/C having the ability to run vent to the outside closed. Door to my office is always closed. Is it safe for me to be in my office with the levels of CO2 that are needed for the grow? I've checked with several of my anatomy & physiology professor friends (not telling why I was asking of course, hehe) and they have said it shouldn't be a problem.

2) What kind of CO2 meter should I buy to keep tabs on levels so I can get my system set?

3) CO2 seems to make a difference from what I've picked up as to yield and quality but I don't really know. I'm sure you do, so does it indeed make a diff?

4) Would you do it if you were me? Do you already have a CO2 system and if you do, would you recommend it? I plan to be growing for my own benefit for a long time and not to sell, but fuck it man, I like nice weed too, I'm human!!!

5) One more thing, should I replant to 5 gal before flippin em to give em more room? These things haven't even come close to making a root ball yet. Maybe in another couple of weeks but I sort of doubt it even by then. Having said that, I think I could be gentle enough that I could probably get them through it without committing herbicide, lol. Just let me know what YOU think.

Another typical looonnnnngggggg ass post, I know. But I've been off your back for a while now, hehe. Time for you to get back to your babysitting job of taking care of mojo, lol. So take a big toke, limber up your fingers, and get busy typing! If you don't mind of course, Sir. lol I can kiss ass with the best of em.

preciate it bud.

when it comes to CO2 i don't have much practical know how. i do know that you can increase your yield from 10% to 30% and that the trichomes seem to get bigger, although that is largely strain related i had the feeling the co2 played a role too.

i think i would advise you to go without co2 for this first run, but that's me. i find you can get great harvests of great quality without co2, as long as you have plenty of air exchange. if you feel the air in your office is getting recycled without enough co2 being replenished from outside, then the co2 will help. when it comes to increased levels of co2, you also need to increase the fert levels as well as the temperature in the grow. otherwise the increased co2 levels will not bring much at all. this is why i'd practice a run without increased co 2 levels first. to get the hang of it all.

basically the co2 levels that plants can use are at 1400 ppm which is rather high for human consumption over a longer time. sorry i can't be any real help with the co2. you will find people that use it with a search. a lot of growers are making sealed rooms with only co2 providing the co2, no air exchange with out doors.


i would not replant them yet, you might not have to do it at all. wait and see how it goes. if you replant now he roots will fall apart, you really need to wait till you can pull the whole root ball out of the pot in one piece holding it by the stem only, lol.

anyway all the best Mojo mate, keep up the good work and may you have all females, lol.

p.s.: i forgot to reply earlier to your question about multiple quotes. i use a note book type software and use the quote tags the first one looking like this quote=username and the second tag /quote both enclosed with [ ] the quote button only works once and the previous pages are always empty of text. so a text edit program is the only way.

 

[Caligrown]

So in Summary...

So in Summary...

Thanks for all the time and detail here guys...FYI - I am trying to condense all the info in the thread for quick reference. Take a look at what you have said so far....

Gausi-Grow guide
(from seed)


Nutrient Guidelines

New sprouts: Canna nutrients

1mL/L of A & B
4mL/L of Rhizotonic
0 Cannazym

Once you get a couple of sets of leaves

2.5mL/L A & B
2mL/L of Rhizo
2.5mL/L of Cannazym

When transplanting

water the new pot of coco with ph'ed water only until run off. After this, give a small additional dose with nutes.

1.5 ml per lt. should work great.

Weather you start with just rhizotonic for one or two waterings before you go to A+B, or start them together will not be the deciding factor if they live or not. some people like to use the nutes at full strength when flowering, so they start with half strength (2ml per lt) while i never uses the canna coco at full strength. I start with 1ml per lt. which gives me ec 0.8 and slowly move up as the plants needs increase. If you have an ec meter, just start the plants at ec 1.0 when the first real cannabis leaves appear. Prior to this, Rhizotonic is enough.

PH
Ph 6.0 is what you want to have in coco. When You water seedlings use ph6.0 to ph 6.3 only once they are firmly established would you go to 5.9 or 5.8. That's just a small detail though. In reality it will not make much difference, either way as the coco is good about buffering any ph swings.

Any water that touches the plants medium should be ph corrected to 6.0 or there abouts.

Rooting/Seedlings

Small amounts of water pH'd to about 6.3(6.0-6.5) and Rhizotonic at 1mL per quart(liter). Rhizotonic has an NPK of 0.4-0.2-0.4.

A seedling or young clone will establish itself fastest with not too much water. The water till run off every day is only really meant to be started once the plant has established a good root system. Until it becomes a plant, don't water unless you need to.

“As soon as I switched to 18/6, I got a 40% reduction in the number of male plants. I've found that keeping the humidity at around 50 -60%, feeding more nitrogen, and maintaining a pH at the upper ideal limit helps with producing females, too.”

“With a seedling, you only want to water every few days, even if it is coco, lol. You want it to make those roots spread out looking for food. I normally use plain phed water till the first serrated leaves show, then I add Rhizotonic to the ph’ed water and use that for one or two waterings depending how fast they develop. Once the real 3 pointed leaves show up, I add 1 ml per lt. coco a+b and from there work your way up slowly as the plants needs it. only start daily waterings, once the plants have established a healthy root system.
Development

You will notice the plants stems get thick and the leaves get big and wide with lots of fingers, with a rich green color on the older fan leaves and a lighter sometimes almost yellow color in the center of the top growing tip”.


Q “When folks talk about the "real leaves" showing up, which ones are they talking about”?

A “ok let me see.....real leaves... the first set of baby leaves, nor the second set of single fingered leaves. when the first 3 fingered leaf is open at the end of it's stem, those are the first real leaves. That's when I start to use ec 0.8 along with my Rhizotonic.”

Q “I noticed some yellowing of the leaves last night and wanted to ask you about it. It's only the AI plants that are slightly yellow and they're both in the same shape. Both of the AI's have a little yellowing of the leaves. What do you think is happening?
The pH of the water with Rhizotonic in it is between 6.0 and 6.5 and I'm watering every other day. I am letting them get pretty dry between waterings so I'm thinking maybe the AI's need more Nitro than the WW's. Your thoughts, please.”

A “yes i think it's time for the auroras to get some nutes. add 1ml per litter of both a+b, the rhizotonic is actually supposed to be used at full strength, but with seedlings it's not needed. they have a natural tendency to make great roots with or without rhizotonic, which is after all not cheep.”

Transplanting

You want to transplant when the plant has made a root ball out of the coco in the cups. Any earlier than this the roots would not keep the medium(Coco) together and pieces might fall off tearing bits of your new roots with them. Once the roots have fully developed in the coco, it's easy to transplant, as the roots and coco come out in one firm piece which you can easily plant in a bigger pot.

Water the new pot of coco with ph'ed water only until run off. then give a small additional dose with nutes, 1.5 ml per lt should work great.

If you want to go from cups directly to 3 gallon pots next thats fine. I'm not sure you will need the 5 gallon pot, but lets wait and see, the ww can be stretchy and big same with some NL phenos.

Transplant once some roots peek out the hole in the bottom side, then it means the roots are firmly established in their pots. In all honesty, it's no big deal, if you are gentle with the ball of coco it should stay together. Even if it breaks up, just support it and transplant like you would in your garden. I would water the new pot of coco with ph'ed water only until run off. then give a small additional dose with nutes, 1.5 ml per lt should work great.


First, fill pots with coco.

1. Made the hole for the plants in the center of the coco by using another cup just like the ones they were in. Then with my fingers I tapered the walls of the holes outward a little.

2. I then sprayed the holes with water, and I always make sure the pH is at 6 or a little lower. Water also had rhizotonic in it - 1.5 mL/qt.

3. I pressed against the sides of the cups the seedlings were in so I could get the root/coco ball to separate from the cup sides.

4. I then turned the seedlings upside down with the stem between my fingers and palm covering the upside down opening in the cup
I had to press sort of hard and gently apply a pulling force on the stem to get the whole thing out. Roots were really gripping the bottom of the cups.
Once free of the cups, I still held them upside down and set the back of my hand next to the hole I dug and rolled my hand over and let them tilt into the hole.

5. I then pressed the coco I had tapered outward back in and up against the root ball to make good contact.

6. I gently pressed downward so plants would have good coco contact on the bottoms also.

7. Then I got my sprayer and sprayed about a pint of water onto the coco right next to where the plants were to get some moisture right down on top of the root system. 1.5 mL/qt rhizotonic.



8. Put them into the grow closet under my 400W MH air cooled light and put them on a 20/4 lighting schedule.







I could tell they were unhappy about the whole event because they really looke like they were drooping a little.









9. I then refilled my sprayer and put another quart of water on each plant.

Lights went out at 0200 and will come back on at 0600. Hopefully they will regain their footing and bounce back soon. Temp in closet with the light off is now 72 and humidity is 56. Temp with light on is 79 and rh stays at about 50. The closet exhaust fan will run 24-7 and I've also got a circulating fan in the closet blowing on the opposite end of the closet to provide some indirect circulation for them.

NPK, thanks for the compliment on the plants and hopefully they'll spring right back. Yeah I know what you're saying about the buying for your grow never ending. I've got a list of stuff that I just keep adding to. One thing I am going to have to do is get some more canna coco coming. It's expensive for me to get cause it's coming from the west coast and the freight is a lot more than the bag of coco. Don't know why there aren't any distributors in the US except on the east and west coasts.

bongoman, sssup man. Still just using the rhizotonic right now. Just as soon as the get over the shock of transplanting I'll begin the A+B at 1 or 1.5 mL/qt (4-6 mL/gal) and see how they respond.

JK, yeah the spacing is kinda tight. I was able to get my 200W CFL within about 6 inches of the plants by directing one of those piece of shit little inline air boost fans we inexperienced idiots buy cause we believe their bullshit claim that it'll move 220cfm. It's the kind that's 6" in diameter and housed inside a 6" round tube so it can be sandwiched between two 6" ducts. Propping it up against the side of my germination tray and letting it blow up into the reflector of my CFL helped keep the heat the light generates off the plants. I could get the light down within 6" of the plants and still keep the temp at plant level at about 78F.

I'm tired folks so I'm going to catch some rack time. Would have gone to bed a couple of hours ago, but I wanted to respond to the people who showed up here. And had this thing almost typed out but in the process of uploading pics, I hit the back button and every fucking thing I had typed went pooof!

BTW, how does everyone put multiple quotes in their responses????? I've tried but every time I come back to my reply, the thing has disappeared and I've got to start all over. Just wondering cause it sure is easier to refer to specifically what a person is asking.

After Transplanting

Straight after the transplant water the plants with straight water pH'd and Rhizotonic 1mL/qt to somewhere between 5.5 and 6.0. Give each plant about a quart of water around the perimeter of the pot so as to coax the roots to grow horizontally and not just straight down to the bottom of the pot.

If the plants color looks light or is showing a lack of nutrients mix up a solution of A+B 1mL/qt and Rhizotonic and feed each of the two Aurora Indicas a half gallon each. In 3 gallon pots with Canna coco that should give a runoff estimated to be about 10-15%.
If the plants show no sign of needing nutrients simply continue to water with Rhizotonic only. At this point I expect that the next watering would be the time to start to add the A+B to the water.

Keep an eye on the plants and when they begin to lighten up in color adjust the nutes to 1.5 mL/qt. Make adjustments slowly and give 1-2 waterings to determine if more adjustments are needed.
It is important to go really slow when upping the nutes. You don't want to burn any of them. It is preferable to have a slight yellowing than to have signs of nutrient burn and have to back off.

 

[Guest]

OK I'm thinking really hard about going ahead and flipping these plants into flower. Anybody think I need to replant them into 5 gal containers before I do? Right now they're in 3 gal. Seriously, if you look at the growth, I'm not sure I should wait another 5 days. Pic one was taken 4 days ago and the 2nd and 3rd were taken just now. Had to kick on the 600w and put the WWs under it. The AIs are so bushy they were crowding out the WWs, hehe.

Plants are 12' tall, I could let em go to 18" I guess. I've got 8' head space in the closet. I don't really want to let them get over 3'-4' tall at harvest, but by the same token, I don't want to cut yield by not letting them veg long enough. I've got no experience at this though, does it really make a difference as to yield how long they're in veg? I've heard it does.

On the co2 issue, I've kinda decided not to use it. I'm in the same room that the closet gets its air and returns it to and it's not healthy for humans, me either lol, to be in the same room with that high a co2 level. I know that to be a fact. Too many studies done on it that shows it increases venous pressures (blood pressure) and puts humans into a sort of state of hypoxia. Not good.

Caligrown, nice job on the condensed version of the thread. I plan on saving the whole thing when I'm done. Long way to go till then though, lol.

4 days ago


30 minutes ago

Aurora Indicas



White Widows

 

[gaiusmarius]

Hi mojo,

personally, i would wait a bit longer if i wanted them to fill out both lamps when done. specially considering that the bigger plants are often the males and it ends up being the smaller ones who do the budding, lol.

there are different ways you could proceed. first you could flower them in another weeks time and accept what you get in terms of male female ratios. or you sex these plants by picking a branch off the bottom of each plant, carefully marking both branch and the plant it came from. you then stick the branches in a cup of water and place them in a box with a cfl on a 12/12 rhythm. after 2 weeks you will easily be able to see which branches are male and which female. you could then make a whole batch of clones from the females and flower them out in a see of green.

or you take a branch off the bottom of each just before flowering, so that you have the genes backed up for the next time. specially if you find some thing worthy you'll be glad you did it.

later man

 

[Caligrown]

WoW! Mojo those thigs look excellent.

I flowered my girls at 10-12 inches last run in coco and this is what it looked like starting week 3....






That was 16 plants in each 3.5' x 3.5' tray. 2 gallon pots. recirc system 2 ea. 10min watering sessions after rooting them in. Just FYI bro...

I ended up setting up another tray and finished with 10 plants in each tray due to crowding...

Peace and love -Cali

 

[Guest]

personally, i would wait a bit longer if i wanted them to fill out both lamps when done. specially considering that the bigger plants are often the males and it ends up being the smaller ones who do the budding, lol.

dude, if that's the case I'm up shit creek, lol. Then the only bitch I have is the one I've been calling the runt - and she's probably so pissed off now about what I said that she got her tubes tied! Least I'll save on bras and panties (knickers to you gm, lol). No really, that one's a strange one. The leaves on it have always been sort of crinkled looking. Like this... Don't know what's up with that.


I'm hoping I got more females than one, but who knows. Be just my luck, lol, the seeds sucked - got 5 seedlings out of 11 seeds - and now I get one female out of four plants. We'll see.

there are different ways you could proceed. first you could flower them in another weeks time and accept what you get in terms of male female ratios. or you sex these plants by picking a branch off the bottom of each plant, carefully marking both branch and the plant it came from. you then stick the branches in a cup of water and place them in a box with a cfl on a 12/12 rhythm. after 2 weeks you will easily be able to see which branches are male and which female. you could then make a whole batch of clones from the females and flower them out in a see of green.

Wish I could put some clones in 12/12 but my 200w CFL is behind me in the office and I can't see in total darkness, lol. I'll get something set up here in the future.

or you take a branch off the bottom of each just before flowering, so that you have the genes backed up for the next time. specially if you find some thing worthy you'll be glad you did it.

When you say take a branch, you're talking about one with a grow tip on it right - and not just a stem with a leaf on it? And then I strip all the leaves but the ones directly under the new growth on the tip before I put it in the coco????

When it comes right down to it I don't think I'm going to be able to clone anything right now. I think I'll put them into flower probably Saturday. And I'm going to go ahead and leave them in the three gallon pots. Sound good to you? If you think I shouldn't, then let me know man.

I flowered my girls at 10-12 inches last run in coco and this is what it looked like starting week 3....

Thanks for the compliment and the info CG. gaiusmarius has really saved my ass on this one, dude. I give all the credit to him. Thankfully, I do have the common sense to recognize when there looks like there's a prob I need to check out. Also a lot of experienced growers like you have stopped by to help out and offer me advice too. And I appreciate it. Would like to hear from aizen and find out how many males he ended up with though.

Your grow looks outrageous, man. Nice job.

If ya don't mind, can I pick your brain for a minute or two?
Did you take them straight out of those solo cups and into the three gallon pots CG?
What was the strain and final yield?
What kind of lights are those and is that the distance from the light to the plants that you used throughout the entire grow?

I ended up setting up another tray and finished with 10 plants in each tray due to crowding...

Ok, now you're scaring me, lol. Makes me think more and more I need to put em into flower this Saturday!! Unless I get advice to the contrary, I'll go ahead.

 

[gaiusmarius]

hey man i didn't mean to say you would only get one female, lol. sorry if i made that impression. normally speaking you get 50/50 male/female ratios and i see no reason why it's not the case here. at least 2 females must be there.

ok man i hear you on the cloning. you are right to keep things simple and direct. so sure, go ahead and change to 12/12 this saturday. actually....

how much head room do you have? i was assuming you have a lot for some reason. if you feel that your head room will be in short supply after they stretch 3 times their hight, then you better start 12/12 right away. if you have plenty of upward space then another few days will help with the yield. in the end you should get at least 2 females out of the 5 plants, maybe more.

the flowering stage is gonna impress you, that's when the coco really starts to do it's thing with the plants. how high is your ec level that you give them now?

 

[Guest]

the flowering stage is gonna impress you, that's when the coco really starts to do it's thing with the plants. how high is your ec level that you give them now?

y do u say that

and what do u clone in im gonna clone tomorrow with some rapid rooters and some in perlite like gratefull's clone box

 

[Guest]

hey man i didn't mean to say you would only get one female, lol. sorry if i made that impression. normally speaking you get 50/50 male/female ratios and i see no reason why it's not the case here. at least 2 females must be there.

No dude, just trying to be funny. I'd heard the ratio was 50/50 but I'd also read where just like you wrote, the taller ones are generally the males. Like I said, the runt has always been a little freaky. Got those weird leaves and all. I'm thinking the others are pretty much like they're supposed to be according to their strain. I'm hoping for all females but I'd be really ok with it if I were to only get one female of each strain. Gonna try to fert one or two buds to get some seeds if I can. Have you ever done that????

how much head room do you have? i was assuming you have a lot for some reason. if you feel that your head room will be in short supply after they stretch 3 times their hight, then you better start 12/12 right away. if you have plenty of upward space then another few days will help with the yield. in the end you should get at least 2 females out of the 5 plants, maybe more.

You're right, I do have plenty of head room. Closet is 8' tall. Save me some of what you're smoking, lol, look at second paragraph of yesterdays 3:45 post. You had a feeling you'd read it somewhere didn't you, hehe!? But I'm thinking 3-4 feet high is about where I'd like to keep them and if they're anything like Caligrown's plants, even 5 plants in my closet are going to crowd things a little. Closet is 7.5' W x 2.2' D x 8' H.

the flowering stage is gonna impress you, that's when the coco really starts to do it's thing with the plants. how high is your ec level that you give them now?

EC when I fed today was at 1.28 and pH was 5.7. Need to know what your feeding schedule is for coco once I change the lights over to 1000W, 12/12 HPS. I've got several and a couple are even from Canna, but I know you do your own thing and it works so I'd rather do what you do instead of what the norm is. I don't like norms or being normal, when I can help it, hehe.

BTW thanks for teaching me the multi qoute thing. Dude, I just open another session of ICM beside the one I'm replying in and cut and paste from one to the other after putting in the quote tags you taught me.

One more thing, dude. Should I repot to 5 gal pots?

 

[gaiusmarius]

i have different feeding plans for different strains. but basically you have to listen to your plants. i would increase the ec to 1.4 of the bigger plants and 1.35 for the small ww.

for a real safe middle of the road feeding plan, work your way up to about 1.6 in flowering. although the auroras will probably ask for more, while the ww might be happy with 1.5

i highly doubt that you need to use my extra low feeding plan for my WW, as i'm sure yours will not be so finicky, being from seed.

i always enjoy watching the plants in the first 2 weeks of flowering, they use a huge amount of nutes and stretch daily, it's fun to see. the aurora might demand you to go all the way to 1.8 by day 14 of 12/12?

making seeds on a few bottom branches is very easy, you just have to be very careful when placing the pollen, use a fine brush. the important thing is to turn the oscillating fan off and to make sure it gets only on the buds you want seeds on, lol. to harvest the pollen you wait till you see the bunches of balls indicating a male, separate it, a few days later the first balls will open up, then put a bag over the plant and shake, the male pollen will collect in the bag. you can do it a branch at a time or the whole plant. just be sure to do it in the bath tub so you can rinse all the escaped pollen down the drain. make sure it doesn't stick to you and get transfered to the plants when you work on them. its fun making seeds on the bottom branches.

i hope that covers everything.

one more thing about ec levels in general. one can't just copy the ec some one else is using at a given stage. every strain and even phenos of the same strain can have different nute needs, these can also be different according to the room they are in, climate, grow system etc. so one has to learn to read the plants to make the right nute decisions. so far so good....

 

[gaiusmarius]

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nah man, no need to repot in my opinion, 3 gallons is a huge amount of medium when it comes to coco. it will do you perfectly, specially if you are flowering in the next days.