Seedlings are sprouting in coco - what now? First grow!

[gaiusmarius]

the thing to remember is that the plants need pk at the end of flowering. it's actually the N that you want to reduce in the last week while letting the pk increase. so when you reduce the A+B, you get exactly the effect you want, ie lower N, while the pk still is maintained by the coco it's self. i spoke to a very respected grower at the 420 who put it very succinctly. basically he said you want to reduce the N by 25% each week in the last 2 to 3 weeks before flush. while increasing or maintaining the pk levels. he was not talking about coco specifically, but the point remains. you are doing pretty much the perfect thing at the moment, lol. if you really wanted to you could go out and get one of those finishing products to use in the beginning of flush, but it's not needed, i always use water and it does a great job.

 

[Guest]

hey yall how do u effectively monitor the EC levels if your not gonna use a rez. i was doing a re-circulating drip but now im going back to hand watering.

 

[Guest]

hey yall how do u effectively monitor the EC levels if your not gonna use a rez. i was doing a re-circulating drip but now im going back to hand watering.

What I do is mix up 5 gals at a time. I suspect you can mix up any amount you want but if it sits for a week or so before you start using it, recheck the pH as it sometimes climbs a bit in storage.

Dude, I still haven't set my drip system but I don't see where you might have had a prob big enough it made you go back to hand watering. What happended? Just so I don't make the same mistake.

Peace

 

[Guest]

no problems, just im gonna make a areo cloner instead

and i dont have ne space for both, actually i would if i made a shelf but im not fellin that idea again lol

 

[Guest]

Looks like I'm getting new buds. What's up with that?

 

[gaiusmarius]

your plant is trying with her last strength, to reproduce. she knows that there are no seeds and so she tries one last time to give any males in the vicinity a chance this means that you are getting very close now. when you check trichome heads, make sure you check the older buds. as soon as you spot some amber trich heads, you can go to the end flush. in fact if the taste and high of the last sample, is like you want, then there is nothing to stop you starting flushing now. but if you want to reach the maximum potential of high and taste, then wait for the trich heads.

peace

 

[Guest]

Day 70 of flower. Started cutting back on the Nitrogen. Going to cut back at about 25% a week till I start the flush. Gave the same amount of canna B as usual so the P&K will still be there for the ladies. Matter of fact, I added about 3mL of PK 13/14 to the 5 gallon mix of nutes I'll use for the next couple of days. Gaius, I'm taking your advice and easing back on the N while keeping the PK the same and maybe increasing it.


Trichs still haven't turned yet but they're getting really close. I can feel it, lmao.

Sorry the White Widow looks so shitty. For the last three days, the growth has really picked up and the weight of the buds has made every limb on the plants droop down. In these shots you can see some of the ties I've had to put on the plant to keep the buds from breaking the limbs. The Widow's been at 5'3" for over a month and she's been packing on the weight. The Aurora Indica is 4'2" and has not been tied down. Her limbs aren't as long as the Widow's and her branches are kinda being supported by the walls, lol.

All this growth has been a problem, but it's been a good one to have. That top cola on the Widow is 17" tall and about 4.5" in diameter (and getting wider).

Peace

 

[Bubble~licious]

Nice thread Mojo, I've been peeping in, learning quite a bit.
Beautiful Ladies too
Grow On!

 

[Guest]

Ist up gaius thanks for the compliment in Bubble~ thread. You're welcome to anything around here ya want to use, man. Hell man, I consider this grow as much yours as it is mine anyway. I'll just hang on to your half of the smokes till you can make it by. hehe

Nice thread Mojo, I've been peeping in, learning quite a bit.
Beautiful Ladies too
Grow On!

Shhwwiiiiiinnngggg !!! A girl!

Nice to have you stopping by, Bubble~. Really need to let us know when you're coming over so we can clean the place up a bit, edit all the bad words out, ya know?

And gaius needs to bathe and brush his teeth and all, lol.

Thanks for the compliments on my girls. The White Widow's having to carry more than she can though and I'm having to help her out a bit.

Don't know how I missed your thread but I'm onto it now and if ya don't mind, I'll speak up every so often. Nice job with the plants.

Now that I think about, I know exactly why I didn't know about your thread. gaius tries to keep all the women for himself!

Peace to ya girl

 

[THC4SIM]

niceOne mojo, that is one hell of a grow you've done there mate!!! very nice!!
it proves it again that CoCo is the only way to go!!!!

 

[gaiusmarius]

fuck yeah three cheers for mojo

talk about doing a great job, every time you post new pics i must admit i'm amazed. i have seen it happen before on occasion with a first time grow, when every thing just goes right, but this one beats them all i freely admit. you have certainly managed to get those ladies to reach their potential, which is not always easy.

anyway i just wanted to say, the top plant in the last post looks well and truly ripe by the calyx hair situation. maybe you should check the trichome heads on the oldest calyxes. she is starting to yellow up nicely and i would think the harvest window will open in a matter of days.

the other thought is about the pk, coco gives off a ton of the stuff at this late stage. at least with the top brown looking plant i would stop all nutrients and go to plain water.

the white looking plant on the other hand still needs her food by the look of it.

glad to hear you're holding on to my share till i get my safe addy to you, RoFLmAo

dude i keep telling you, you are the one that did it. i just tried to give you the right basic info to make your decisions from. like i said before you are a natural. it has been a great pleasure following along with your grow.

peace

 

[Guest]

yea man that shit is redic

nice job, dammit im falling way behind

me n mojo are in the same grade too both freshman

 

[gaiusmarius]

i think mojo is in for promotion as soon as this lot is harvested eh? from.......

newbee freshman to CocoLocoGrower 2nd class (Hnd.wtr.)


edited to add: seems i gots to spread me some more mojo before i can give some more mojo to mojo

 

[Guest]

Well, sorry I've not been keeping up the thread for the last few days. Had a busy week.

Here the plants are at day 76. I think I'm going to get a fantastic yield off these two. The branches are bent down from the weight. I was tying them up but it got to the point, no matter what I did, they rolled over and started growing in a different direction anyway. I'm going to start a guess the weight thread and see what input I can get.

gm, thanks for the promotion dude. I'm definitely gonna try to save these two for moms. Right now I'm feeding 3mL/gal of A, 5mL/gal of B, and 1mL/gal of PK. Trying to go with what you found out at the 420 gaius. reducing the nitrogen by 25% a week for the last two or three weeks while keeping the P&K the same or increasing a little. So far no stress to the plants. EC is at 1.1 and pH is at 5.6 when I feed them. Watering twice a day at this point to keep things stabilized in the pots. Return ec is at 1.2 so the plants are still eating it appears.

Trichomes are still clear on both plants but I've been sampling the lower buds and with a four day dry at 73F and a four day cure in a mason jar, I'm already getting a very smooth smoke. The indica is gaining in strength and it is a more "laid back" stone. Taste of the Indica is extremely smooth and has what tastes like a citrus aftertaste. The White Widow is a stronger high and is more up. The taste of the Widow is a little more chemical in nature and if I add a couple of pieces of the very small leaves that are right next to the buds, I pick up a minty taste. Been loading my one hitter with indica first with a little Widow packed in to boot and the high is fantastic.

Just waiting for the trichomes to turn amber and then I'll harvest.

Peace

 

[MOSH]

Amazing fuckin' grow (from the lil droopy sprouts on the first page to this above me^), mojo.. After skimming through this thread real quick, reading a little here and there, I see those plants have definately came a long way. I guess you'll be remembering your first grow without a doubt! I wanna start growing here real soon and I can tell I'ma have alotta problems, cuz I dont understand shit about growing in the first place... so you thought you was bad with these questions, wait till I get started!!

Anyways, great grow.. But it's 3 days later, any update? And how long until harvesting?

 

[gaiusmarius]

yeah man, it's amazing to think those plants started as some iddy-biddy seeds, lol. now look at em......eh?

can't say it enough mojo, you have done a wonderful job. lets hope you don't have to wait too much longer, lol. specially the Aurora is slow to finish it seems to me. i mean the WW is know for slow finishing phenos. you are at day 80 of 12/12 though and 12 weeks is the longest i ever heard a WW to go, let alone the Aurora, lol.

how about an update, wtf's going on?

 

[notjonesinNEmor]

Great grow!

I would love to see the rootballs post harvest. I am getting ready for a drip/pot grow and I am undecided on a transplant plan. It looks like the 3 gallon pots were plenty big enough even with the long flowering. I was undecided on 3 or 5 gallons to finish in, but looks like 3 is good! My last undecided issue is going from small cups to 1 gall then up to the 3, or just go straight to the 3s like you did. I wonder if the upper portions of the pots got filled in or not? I would love to go straight to the 3 gallons as I am lazy as hell and hate to transplant

I've enjoyed the show so far

 

[Guest]

truly inspiring

nice work.

 

[Guest]

Day 83 of flower and I still don't see any amber trichomes. But they are cloudy. So I'm gonna start the flush tomorrow and harvest a week later. Been giving them 4mL/gal of A and 5mL/gal of B and 1mL/gal of PK 13/14. I've kinda done this differently it appears and I think it's impacted the grow favorably.

When gaius suggested I reduce the nitrogen by 25% each week during the last several weeks and keep the PK levels the same or even increase them a little, I had already cut back the "B" by 1mL/gal and started giving the PK at 1mL/gal. I really think this initiated a new bud production cycle in the plants. Gaius if you'll remember, you told me that when I first saw this that the plants were just putting in a final effort to propagate by packing on some final buds. Well dude, this growth never stopped and it's been going on now for the last month. In the last two weeks, I have reduced the "A" from 6mL/gal to 4mL/gal and I'm now picking up the yellowing of the older fan leaves.

I think these plants will keep on going if I up the A&B but I'm going to begin the flush tomorrow and harvest a week later.

Anybody see anything in these plants that I'm missing indicating they're ready to harvest????? Snipped off a small bud from a side cola and carried it out into the sun to look at it through the magnifying glass to make sure the light was right to see amber and still nothing.

























Peace

 

[gaiusmarius]

you are the only one who can really see if the trichomes are ready or not. i must admit that i'm surprised by how long these plants are flowering. but in the end it is surely worth waiting till you do see at least a few amber trichome heads. it looks like both plants are sativa dom phenos. anyway normally speaking, when you start getting lots of milky trich heads, then the amber one aren't far behind.

kudos for being so patient, specially the aurora has been looking quite ripe for a while. although no matter how good it smokes now, when the trich heads are ripe it will be even stronger. mind you that's also a matter of preference, some people like to harvest at the earliest opportunity for more of an uplifting high, while others want the full narcotic effect of fully ripe trichomes.