Seedlings are sprouting in coco - what now? First grow!

[Guest]

What the hell is this? I've been wondering if I fixed the prob or if it's still going on. Leaf tip curl and burn has been there for over a week. Flushed and started feeding at the usual 6 mL/gal of A+B. Think I've stopped it but not sure. Should I raise or lower? Or stay the same.

Spots on leaves are only on the indica and these are the same ones as a couple of weeks ago. Not all leaves are affected and seems to have affected the top 25% of the plant. Can't really tell if it's gotten worse in the last couple of weeks or not. Don't think so though.

pH and ec going in are 5.8/1.5. pH and ec in runoff are 5.8/1.45.

 

[NPK]

Mojo, you're going to have a helluva trim job! You should get an extra pair of snips for the wife so she can help out. :wink: Seriously, it's looking good man.

 

[Guest]

NPK thanks for stopping in, dude. Your suggestion bout getting the wife to help is a good one but I'm not sure I want her around me with a pair of snips in her hand! Know what I mean?

Seriously though, I think I'm going to do alright on yield but not having gone through this before, I'm not really sure. All I know is, for three weeks I've been having to tie the branches up for fear they were going to snap and the branches are pretty fucking beefy looking to me. Moved the White Widow over out from directly underneath the light cause it only had about 6" clearance from the bottom glass. Had to get the wife to come in and stabilize the top cola while I untied it and retied it to take the slack out. Only moved the plant about 8" and every time she'd get a little lazy the cola would lean over at about a 30 degree angle.

Go figure!

Peace bro

 

[AbaZabba]

Hey mojo,

Are the yellowing spots getting better or worse? I was just curious as I have 1 lady 14 days into flowering exhibiting the exact same thing, using Canna A&B @ 8-10 ml/gal with a little PK (2-3ml/gal) and the pH being from 5.5-5.9.

I was just curious what this was so I can remedy the minor problem before I reach the bulking stage of flowering. It's weird because only one of my plants is doing this in two trays with over 15 plants I'm thinking some kind of CA buildup possibly?

Anywho keep up the good work, can't wait to see how bulky and filled out that cola gets

 

[Guest]

AbaZabba, I didn't have the problem till I used Cal-Mag about 5 weeks ago. Stopped using it and it's either slowed down drastically or stopped altogether. Didn't affect both plants either, just the Aurora Indica. And didn't affect all the leaves, just some on the upper 25% of the plant. I flushed the plants, flooded the hallway, hehe, and started back with 6mL/gal of A+B as normal. Had a second problem when I used the PK. Cut my A+B to 4mL/gal and dosed PK at 5mL/gal. Burned the tips of the leaves so I cut PK back to 3mL/gal and even that was right on the edge of burn. Stopped the PK after about a 4 day feed at the end of week 3. Fed it again at week 6 for about 4 days and picked up a little more burn. PK is strong shit, dude. I'd be careful with it but it doesn't seem you're having the problem I did.

pH of my runoff has been consistent at 5.8-6.0 so I wouldn't think anything is getting locked out. I do think the spots on the leaves was a Ca problem related to adding Cal-Mag. As long as I use 50/50 tap water and ro, I'll never use it again!

Gonna cut my A+B to 3mL/gal and dose PK at 3mL/gal next grow that I hit with the PK to try to give them the PK they need during flower without ODin the plants and burning them.

Short answer to curing your prob is to flush the affected plants and follow with a slightly reduced A+B feed. Keep an eye on pH and ec of runoff as you ease the plants back to your normal A+B. In other words in your case, follow the flush with 6mL/gal and go up each feeding 1 mL/gal till you get back to where you want to be.

Seemed to work for me but I'm still keeping an eye on them and if ec starts to creep back up, I water to about a 25% runoff for a couple of feedings till it gets back down to within 0.3 ec of what I'm feeding them.

So far that's working for me. Hope the info helps.

Peace

 

[Guest]

*grandma voice*

*squints*

mojo......... mojo is that u baaaby. my my have u grown all up

lmfao

damn mojo i come back here after my bud smokin vacation n ur 10 steps ahead of the game lol. looks like u know ur shit now hommie or at least have a much better understanding of what ur doing. thas beautiful

well since my vacation is over its time to get back in it. up next wonder diesel n chocolate chunk

 

[Guest]

aizen good to see ya back. Didn't know you were on vacation, dude. What, you took a 2 month vacation??? Good to have ya back. What happened to your last grow, dude. How'd it turn out for ya?? Last I heard from you, you thought you had a hermie or something like that.

Yeah, man I'm gettin it with the grow. These two have turned out to be some high producers looks like. Have to wait and see what the dry weight is but it's looking better every day.

Peace

 

[Guest]

well after my cali-o from soil was done i shut it down my grow area was to unorganized n it was just very half assed lmfao. i had an entire shelf just fall which had my clones on it that were in a bubbler and some seedlings like a week in. that shit just feel n i snapped lol decided just to smoke my cali-o n call it a day. trashed about 5 plants in the process 2 were male ne ways so.......

but saul good now im back in the game setting everything up again. but this time im out to find moms n clone

 

[Guest]

Sorry to hear about all the troubles. Grow your own moms, dude. I'm gonna try revegging these after harvest till I can get some better. Got some SD seeds coming so I'll see what happens with those. Got some more strains of seeds in the fridge for the future.

Peace

 

[Guest]

thas whats up ima run with the wonder diesel for a long time. heard good things about it

damn now i gotta re read all this ish cause i just bought a TDS meter i need to understand how to use it

copped some hygrozyme too, been hearin about how it give u big stems n really helps with roots. and as u know roots go crazy in coco already soo this next grow should b fun a lot more enjoyably then the last

 

[Guest]

my tap is 80ppm's its good to finally know what it is ive been wondering. oh yea PH is 6.5 preety good A?

not gonna get a R/O unit though i dont really thing its worth it and thas right u guessed it ya boy is broke. might get that mr.clean thing talked about n some other thread n see how that works i mean its only $20

 

[Guest]

aiz, dude with 80ppm ya don't need ro. You sure about that 80ppm reading, man? That's incredible. Matter of fact, with that low an ec you need to add some trace minerals to your nute water dude. Cal-Mag+ is a cuss word to me but in your case, you're gonna need it with 80ppm.

Just in case anybody's still following this thread, here's an update on the trees I'm growing in the closet. I was pissed I only ended up with two females out of 5 plants, but I couldn't have fit more than these two into the closet!

Watering to runoff once a day. pH is climbing in the Widow's bucket from 5.8 to 6.2 in about 7 days so once a week I water about 4 times in one day and pull it back down. Can't wait till these are harvested so I can start the next grow in my drip setup. Hand watering is something every grower oughta try, but I've done my time and now I want the convenience and superior growth a drip system will give me.

Nutes=A+B 30mL/gal or about .7 ec
pH=5.8
Water=50% tap/50% ro



Day 57 of flower:

The White Widow
5' tall X 3.5' diameter (measured from coco to tip)
top cola 15" X 3.5"
side colas avg. 6" X 2.5"

The Aurora Indica
3'10" tall X 3' diameter (measured from coco to tip)
top cola 9" X 3.75"
side colas avg. 6" X 2.5"

 

[Guest]

brand new meter man n i just calibrated it now its reading 71

nice plants how much longer?

how are the trics lookin

 

[Guest]

aiz, don't know on the time factor. Plants are at 57 days now so I suspect maybe a couple more weeks on the Aurora Indica and one on top of that for the White Widow. Trichs are nice and getting nicer. I'm just gonna let the plants tell me when they're ready. Amber trichs and they're gettin taken. Like I said I'm gonna try and reveg these two. They're lookin like really good producers.

Yer ec is goin down so fast dude, one of these days soon you're gonna take a drink of water and your lips are gonna get sucked into the glass! lmfao.

Peace

 

[Guest]

OK, time for everybody to start behaving again. gaius is back. lol.

Good to see ya back, my friend. I tried my best to fill in for ya but... lmfao.

How was the cup, dude?

Peace

 

[gaiusmarius]

yes indeed back from the 420, which was as ever one great big party. also as ever i pretty much lost my voice from trying every bodies different bubble hash.

dude it is totally cool to see how well you are doing. it's a very good sign that your buds are still mainly white. it's great to see them producing the trichomes now too. in just one week they look a lot stickier to me. now you just have to wait till the calyxes swell up and you'll be seeing them amber trichome heads in n time.

the spots are some thing i have personally never come across in the same way, but i can tell you that at this late stage they can be the least of your worries. you do not harvest the fan leaves after all so it's fine if they feel they have to retire. they did their job after all eh? lol. but i do think you are proabably right when you say it started with the cal mag.

keep up the great work mojo, this grow has been a real pleasure to follow and i can't wait to see it harvested and drying for you.

re vegging these two plants could be real fun and if you find the taste and effect of their buds to your liking, then also very much worth your while. it take a bit of patience but as long as you leave some leaves on the plant with one or two bottom branches, you can probably get them to re veg.

 

[Guest]

Day 66 of flower. Buds have really bulked up since the last pictures I posted on the 20th.

Trichs have still not turned cloudy yet on either plant. Still feeding just A+B but dropped from 6mL/gal to 5mL/gal. I'm wondering if I could drop the B out of the mix and feed A at about 3mL/gal and feed PK again at 3mL/gal. That would give them the nitrogen they still need and it would only add the P and K that the PK provides. Might keep the PK from burning them this time.

Just watching them ripen. Not much else to do but wait patiently, feed carefully and continue to watch for mold. Wouldn't think mold could even get started with the RH at 38%-42%. Temps are starting out the day at an overnight low of 70F and ending up the day at 80.2F


Peace

 

[Guest]

Came in today and opened the door to the grow closet and the top of the White Widow had fallen over against the door to the closet. Good thing it went that direction or it probably would have snapped. It's a heavy cola.

I thought I had secured it well enough with one tie but evidently not, hehe. Put a second length of nylon stocking on it and secured it to a screw on the wall so it now has two points of anchor about 45 degrees apart. We'll see.

Peace

 

[gaiusmarius]

high again mojo,

you are doing great, no need to change anything in my opinion. slowly reducing the food is all you can do at this stage. i have never heard of using the canna coco a+b any way but in equal parts, so i don't think i'd be into that personally. there again it might be an interesting experiment. at the same time it's worth remembering that a lot of research went into the coco a+b and how it's used. maybe save that experiment for another day when you have more plants and you can do it with 1of them.

great to hear your rh is so well under control, should make it next to impossible for mold to start. (touching wood, lol.) specially if you have plenty of air movement too.

what's your ec level at this time? how are the trichomes? any milky heads yet? or mostly transparent? it can't be that much longer, the aurora specially should be ready inside of 10 weeks one would think. while some ww goes to 11 weeks , i didn't think this one would lol. should be an amazing yield though, when the time comes.

peace

 

[Guest]

Good to see ya gdude. Where the fuck ya been??? lol. Have some amateur macro shots a few posts above the one you replied to that show the trichs are still clear on both.

About the PK thingy. I realize canna put a lot of time and effort into their nute schedule but if you even come close to feeding PK at the levels they suggest, a person is going to cremate their plants, lol. Seeing as how the B gives them P&K also, and the plants tend to burn when it's added, I thought maybe it would just make sense to eliminate the B while dosing with PK. At any rate, I'm not going to experiment with this grow. I'll do it on one plant during the next grow. If it works, I'll start doing it as part of my regular regimen during flower stage.

Peace bro