First thing I’m not trying to beat up anyone here. This could be some valuable selling information for seed vendors. I appreciate all the hard work, time, and effort the seed vendors do to bring us seed buyers the quality genetics that they make available. Seed buyers can make their experiences with buying seeds available to the vendors as well as what they would like to see from vendors and post it here.
I think the seed vendors could give us seed buyers a little more information and better images of their products. For a couple years now I have been very disappointed when shopping for seeds. My first purchases were from the vendor web sites like Planet Skunk and others I found on Seed Boutique. I then moved on to buying seeds from Seedbay but found the same lack of attention by seed sellers to list details about their products and good quality images as well. Short descriptions and terrible images is a better way to state my feelings as to what I found.
The strain descriptions are short, many missing simple information such as whether the strain was indicia or sativa? Ancestry was hard to find. Plant growth details almost non-existent? I was amazed these people could sell these products with so little information. I have sold over 2000 items on eBay and would not think of listing an item with a description this incomplete. I looked at a description, on the garden seed website Gurneys.com, of a package of corn seeds that contained 200 seeds for $5.45. It had a 90 word description with a 35 word comments section covering twice the information of any seed listing I found on Seedbay that was 100x the price. A wonderful image of the finished product too!
Then I started looking at the images on Seedbay and the vendor sites. The images displayed on the vendor sites and on Seedbay were so poor I can’t begin to describe them. Some items had no image at all! You would think if a vendor was asking ten bucks a seed they could display a quality image, ….or maybe two? Some images had enlargement links that took you to an image that was worse than the first. There were no macro images. No plant growth images. I went to Jackson Perkins a rose seller website where the flower images were fantastic. I think they are the number one rose seller in the world. If they displayed images of roses like the Seedbay sellers display images of cannabis flowers they would be out of business in a week.
So I conducted a quick survey of 12 random seed Vendor web sites and 12 random Seedbay listings. As a photographer for 40 years I rated the images as poor, good, or very good, and if they had a macro or enlargement. I then graded the enlargements.
I then analyzed the item descriptions for having the following listed: ancestry, stretch, height, yield, flowering days, smoke report, medicinal effects, indicia or sativa, THC, and awards listed. With some seed descriptions it was hard to find this information if at all, and some were very clear on these details. Things such as having a smoke report I had to determine whether or not they were actually giving details as to things such as harshness, effects etc. or just a “sweet line” or sales pitch. This was the most difficult category to analyze.
So here are the results of my survey:
Survey Results 12-03-2006
Vendor Sites 12 surveyed:
5 had no image,
7 had poor images.
Of the 7 that had poor images 2 had good enlargements and 5 had poor enlargements.
All 12 had descriptions.
4 listed ancestry,
1 listed stretch,
4 listed height,
3 listed yield,
All listed flowering days.
3 had a smoke report,
1 listed medicinal effects.
8 listed indicia or sativa, 4 did not!
2 listed THC and 1 listed awards achieved.
All the vendor sites listed a price. The descriptions were short on average. A couple were very long but did not include any growing or smoke report details, just a sales pitch.
Seedbay Items 12 surveyed:
4 had no image at all!
6 had images that were poor with only 2 being good. None were very good, there were no macros or enlargements.
All had a description.
6 listed ancestory.
2 listed stretch.
2 listed height.
1 listed bud size.
All listed flowering days.
3 had a smoke report.
1 listed medicinal effects.
7 listed indicia or sativa.
2 listed THC.
4 listed yield.
None listed awards. The descriptions were short on average. Some listed ancestry but not whether they were indicia or sativa….I guess I should know?
All the vendors and Seedbay items had an indoor or outdoor reference and guess what else? A price$$ .
I also am very aware of the variables in growing cannabis. I recently finished a Sagamartha mystery mix and Head seeds mix grow where I asked those 2 vendors to please identify their strains I was growing. The answers were the same, they could not be sure just looking at the images and my description due to the variables of growing, light, soil, ferts etc. If they were able to smoke, touch, smell it they could be more accurate. So is this why many details are omitted from the seed vendor descriptions? Are they worried we’ll demand our money back if the plant doesn’t reach the height they list in the description?
I think the vendors are now relying on us buyers to sell their products. We list our detailed grow reports and quality images here for everyone to read and see. I have had, quite a few times, a reply to my grow threads stating “thanks Doobieduck, that **** seeds strain looks great, I am going to ad their strain to my next order.”
Seed vendors I’m not trying to throw you into a corporate war like Pepsi and Coke. I have never been dissatisfied with any seeds purchased from the seed vendors …All I’m asking of seed vendors is to give me and my friends a few more details, how tall, stretch, ancestry, sativa or indicia? A quality image or two so we can be more informed about our purchases from you. Step up to the plate and upgrade your descriptions and images. Your websites too! If you can’t operate a digital camera hire me Doobieduck, or someone who can.
Seed buyers, reply to this thread. Let’s let the vendors know what makes us purchase a certain strain? The image,…… the description,….. was it what you read about it here at Cannagraphic? Why don’t we let the vendors know what makes us buy from them. This information may just help the vendors complete a better sales presentation; develop new strains that satisfy their customer’s needs. Thanks all, Merry Christmas……Dr. Duck.
I think the seed vendors could give us seed buyers a little more information and better images of their products. For a couple years now I have been very disappointed when shopping for seeds. My first purchases were from the vendor web sites like Planet Skunk and others I found on Seed Boutique. I then moved on to buying seeds from Seedbay but found the same lack of attention by seed sellers to list details about their products and good quality images as well. Short descriptions and terrible images is a better way to state my feelings as to what I found.
The strain descriptions are short, many missing simple information such as whether the strain was indicia or sativa? Ancestry was hard to find. Plant growth details almost non-existent? I was amazed these people could sell these products with so little information. I have sold over 2000 items on eBay and would not think of listing an item with a description this incomplete. I looked at a description, on the garden seed website Gurneys.com, of a package of corn seeds that contained 200 seeds for $5.45. It had a 90 word description with a 35 word comments section covering twice the information of any seed listing I found on Seedbay that was 100x the price. A wonderful image of the finished product too!
Then I started looking at the images on Seedbay and the vendor sites. The images displayed on the vendor sites and on Seedbay were so poor I can’t begin to describe them. Some items had no image at all! You would think if a vendor was asking ten bucks a seed they could display a quality image, ….or maybe two? Some images had enlargement links that took you to an image that was worse than the first. There were no macro images. No plant growth images. I went to Jackson Perkins a rose seller website where the flower images were fantastic. I think they are the number one rose seller in the world. If they displayed images of roses like the Seedbay sellers display images of cannabis flowers they would be out of business in a week.
So I conducted a quick survey of 12 random seed Vendor web sites and 12 random Seedbay listings. As a photographer for 40 years I rated the images as poor, good, or very good, and if they had a macro or enlargement. I then graded the enlargements.
I then analyzed the item descriptions for having the following listed: ancestry, stretch, height, yield, flowering days, smoke report, medicinal effects, indicia or sativa, THC, and awards listed. With some seed descriptions it was hard to find this information if at all, and some were very clear on these details. Things such as having a smoke report I had to determine whether or not they were actually giving details as to things such as harshness, effects etc. or just a “sweet line” or sales pitch. This was the most difficult category to analyze.
So here are the results of my survey:
Survey Results 12-03-2006
Vendor Sites 12 surveyed:
5 had no image,
7 had poor images.
Of the 7 that had poor images 2 had good enlargements and 5 had poor enlargements.
All 12 had descriptions.
4 listed ancestry,
1 listed stretch,
4 listed height,
3 listed yield,
All listed flowering days.
3 had a smoke report,
1 listed medicinal effects.
8 listed indicia or sativa, 4 did not!
2 listed THC and 1 listed awards achieved.
All the vendor sites listed a price. The descriptions were short on average. A couple were very long but did not include any growing or smoke report details, just a sales pitch.
Seedbay Items 12 surveyed:
4 had no image at all!
6 had images that were poor with only 2 being good. None were very good, there were no macros or enlargements.
All had a description.
6 listed ancestory.
2 listed stretch.
2 listed height.
1 listed bud size.
All listed flowering days.
3 had a smoke report.
1 listed medicinal effects.
7 listed indicia or sativa.
2 listed THC.
4 listed yield.
None listed awards. The descriptions were short on average. Some listed ancestry but not whether they were indicia or sativa….I guess I should know?
All the vendors and Seedbay items had an indoor or outdoor reference and guess what else? A price$$ .
I also am very aware of the variables in growing cannabis. I recently finished a Sagamartha mystery mix and Head seeds mix grow where I asked those 2 vendors to please identify their strains I was growing. The answers were the same, they could not be sure just looking at the images and my description due to the variables of growing, light, soil, ferts etc. If they were able to smoke, touch, smell it they could be more accurate. So is this why many details are omitted from the seed vendor descriptions? Are they worried we’ll demand our money back if the plant doesn’t reach the height they list in the description?
I think the vendors are now relying on us buyers to sell their products. We list our detailed grow reports and quality images here for everyone to read and see. I have had, quite a few times, a reply to my grow threads stating “thanks Doobieduck, that **** seeds strain looks great, I am going to ad their strain to my next order.”
Seed vendors I’m not trying to throw you into a corporate war like Pepsi and Coke. I have never been dissatisfied with any seeds purchased from the seed vendors …All I’m asking of seed vendors is to give me and my friends a few more details, how tall, stretch, ancestry, sativa or indicia? A quality image or two so we can be more informed about our purchases from you. Step up to the plate and upgrade your descriptions and images. Your websites too! If you can’t operate a digital camera hire me Doobieduck, or someone who can.
Seed buyers, reply to this thread. Let’s let the vendors know what makes us purchase a certain strain? The image,…… the description,….. was it what you read about it here at Cannagraphic? Why don’t we let the vendors know what makes us buy from them. This information may just help the vendors complete a better sales presentation; develop new strains that satisfy their customer’s needs. Thanks all, Merry Christmas……Dr. Duck.
Sending out plenty of free testers is the best and most honest way to advertise... not to mention good karma..
