Sea Solids make plants EXPLODE in hydro!!

[bushdriver]

so i was under the impression you were using sea solids not sea salt, as i thought the process was to take the salt water out of the sea and clean the sediment to get this special elixir...

are you saying u can use regular sea salt at a tbsp or less per gallon as a base hydro fert???? or do you have to separate and rinse the sediment???

you may have possibly answered my recent organic hydro prayers if this be so!! super duper thread dude well done

 

[majortom9]

How much Guano

How much Guano

Maby I breezed over it, but how much guano for the N would you recommend per gallon, seaweed extract also? Do you think a seaweed fert with nitrate in it work in place of the guano in a pinch?

 

[Green&Gold]

I read most of this thread months ago, but forgot how much SeaCrop to use with PBP? and How often? Veg? Flower? Do I still need CalMag+?

 

[Yankee Grower]

I read most of this thread months ago, but forgot how much SeaCrop to use with PBP? and How often? Veg? Flower? Do I still need CalMag+?

Osirica has me on ignore...lol. Are you really asking about Sea-Crop? Only thing I've seen Osirica talk about is sea solids and don't know if he's even tried Sea-Crop. Sea solids is another term for whole, natural dehydrated seawater or true sea salt in my book. We're talking about 98% sodium chloride. In hydro you can use at least 1 ml/gal of Sea-Crop and probably up to 5 ml/gal no problems. Sea-Crop has about 2-2.5% sodium chloride with some trace elements being concentrated up to 30 times. The solid content is about 20%. I dunno about the Ca thing but you can probably get away without any Mg additions if using higher concentrations of Sea-Crop cause it's about 4% Mg. Foliar feeds with Sea-Crop are great too. You can do 1% foliars once a week in veg and through about half way into flower. I think Sea-Crop is a perfect addition to a PBP program.

 

[onehitjake]

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/nutrition/salt.htm

I believe your numbers are off. There is nothing beneficial about table salt (sodium chloride), for people, plants or any other living thing.

Since I am a natural foods health nut (and saltwater aquarium keeper), salt/sea salt is something I know well.

 

[Green&Gold]

Osirica has me on ignore...lol. Are you really asking about Sea-Crop? Only thing I've seen Osirica talk about is sea solids and don't know if he's even tried Sea-Crop. Sea solids is another term for whole, natural dehydrated seawater or true sea salt in my book. We're talking about 98% sodium chloride. In hydro you can use at least 1 ml/gal of Sea-Crop and probably up to 5 ml/gal no problems. Sea-Crop has about 2-2.5% sodium chloride with some trace elements being concentrated up to 30 times. The solid content is about 20%. I dunno about the Ca thing but you can probably get away without any Mg additions if using higher concentrations of Sea-Crop cause it's about 4% Mg. Foliar feeds with Sea-Crop are great too. You can do 1% foliars once a week in veg and through about half way into flower. I think Sea-Crop is a perfect addition to a PBP program.

Yep, I'm talking SeaCrop. I have 1L and want to use it... Currently doing PBP in Coco in 3gal pots. Should I be using the SeaCrop as an occasional supplement or with every feeding? thx

 

[Yankee Grower]

Yep, I'm talking SeaCrop. I have 1L and want to use it... Currently doing PBP in Coco in 3gal pots. Should I be using the SeaCrop as an occasional supplement or with every feeding? thx

I'd use it with every feeding at the rate of 1 ml per gallon. An option would be to do a 1% soil drench the first feeding then follow up with the dilute 1 ml/gal schedule. You really should do at least one foliar feeding at 1% either way. My only consideration would be the Mg content later in flower possibly negatively affecting the flavor but don't really know how that would work. An organic grower friend recommends stopping all Mg additions about 4 weeks before you finish.

I believe your numbers are off.

It's been awhile since looking at the breakdown for Celtic salt and don't remember them having that information posted some years back. I'm very familiar with the Himalayan salt and their number is spot on based on the analysis I've done. I don't really consider that a sea salt but more a mineral salt. Fresh sea salt for sure has other things going for it than something that's millions of years old. I wonder about the mineral content of Celtic salt though because of the clay content. It would be nice for them to post the actual lab results on all of their salts cause that Hawaiian stuff looks very interesting. Good info...thx.

 

[pmd]

I'd use it with every feeding at the rate of 1 ml per gallon. An option would be to do a 1% soil drench the first feeding then follow up with the dilute 1 ml/gal schedule. You really should do at least one foliar feeding at 1% either way. My only consideration would be the Mg content later in flower possibly negatively affecting the flavor but don't really know how that would work. An organic grower friend recommends stopping all Mg additions about 4 weeks before you finish.

It's been awhile since looking at the breakdown for Celtic salt and don't remember them having that information posted some years back. I'm very familiar with the Himalayan salt and their number is spot on based on the analysis I've done. I don't really consider that a sea salt but more a mineral salt. Fresh sea salt for sure has other things going for it than something that's millions of years old. I wonder about the mineral content of Celtic salt though because of the clay content. It would be nice for them to post the actual lab results on all of their salts cause that Hawaiian stuff looks very interesting. Good info...thx.

Himalayan salts ruined my crop in rockwool at 750ppm, went back to sea-agri's sea solids and everything is back to picture perfect, all my friends are converts ^.^

 

[osirica420]

I have tried most salt products on the market over the past few yrs..
sea-crop, thalassa mix, celtic, sea agri, sea solids with the chloride removed, skeptical "sea salt"...

Making a "Sole" solution from Himalayan and NZ salt works best for me at 1500ppm the WHOLE grow.. seed soak to bud

I only grow in coco or DWC....

People growing in anything different, i suggest not going over 500ppm til u got it dialed in with your particular strain.


The whole point in this technique is to feed your hydro plants minerals they would not normally get. Also to also stress the plant to enhance its immune system(smell, flavor, potentcy,nutrition content) via the sodium . Flushed cannabis grown this way is some of the smoothest, tastiest, potent smoke i have came across EVERYONE notices the difference.

GH Bloom at 200-500ppm and NZ Salt at 1500ppm produced the dankest buds i have ever grown..

 

[maryanne3087]

Hey osirica420,

I'm wondering what your source for NZ or Himalayan salts are? Why did you choose these particular salts over others?

Also, have you read the patent for Sea-90's hydro system in Florida? They call for anywhere from 1000-8000 PPM's of sea salt and it seems like they lead on that you can grow plants with no other nitrogen source. They state that you can use nitrogen fixing bacteria or a number of nitrogen containing salts but they imply or state that you don't need any additional nitrogen sources.

1. Have you tried growing cannabis without additonal nitrogen sources? I see that you have often used 200-500ppm of bottled nutrient.

2. Have you ever pressed the PPM as high or nearly as high as 8000ppm? It seems like you never exceeded 1900 ppm but I've probably skipped bits and pieces of your threads.

Thank you sir, my hat goes off to you.

 

[osirica420]

No i try to use alot less NPK especially N then the avg grower but nonetheless still use it, i am 100% positive its possible todo though without adding N with certain strains..

Highest i have used without seeing any negative effects is 3500ppm in flower with the heavy eaters, didnt push it any higher..

I use specific brands of salt because of the the mineral analysis shows more ideal ratios for growing plants..

 

[maryanne3087]

What brand of NZ and Himilayan do you use? I'm thinking of trying the Sea-90 by Sea-agri.

 

[ganjasuiteseat]

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[Mr.Hank]

Great grows!

 

[Mr.Hank]

Looks great nice plants!

 

[justiceman]

I just stumbled on to this thread and i really love the idea of Sea Solids for growing. To provide the soil/medium with the correct elements in natures balance should in theory provide the highest quality bud no doubt! I have a sole solution of Himalayan crystal salt that I personally ingest daily myself(1tsp in a glass of water daily).

I have also read briefly about the use of SEA-90 in agriculture. It astonishes me that you are able to feed with up to 2000ppm worth of sea salt on top of a 500ppm pbp solution. Just goes to show that the plants don't mind the high mineral content when the mineral ratios are correct.

Are there any books or reading material you might be able to recommend to me. Any information would be very helpful and appreciated.

I love your thread!

 

[kuhdoffi]

Himalayan sea salts on the way

 

[justiceman]

Hey I found the some of the books you talked about:

Sea Energy Agriculture - Maynard Murray
Fertility from the Ocean Deep - Charles Walters

I already ordered the book by Charles Walters, but it seems Maynard Murray's book is a bit harder to get a hold of. I'm going to have to order it and wait a few weeks because it is back ordered.

I was also reading some more pages in this thread today and I have a few questions if you don't mind.

So generally speaking 1 tsp of crystal salt per gallon of water is about the maximum one should go and that usually achieves roughly 1500ppm? Does that mean pure crystal salt or 1 tsp of Sole? In what amounts do you combine the Himalayan Sole and the NZ salt? 50/50?

I beleive you have also used sea-agri's SEA-90. Would you say that the Himalayan/NZ salt out preforms SEA-90 indefinitely?

I happen to have Himalayan salt crystals on hand. Am I able to use it alone since I don't have Celtic sea salt?

Also I remember you stating that your PH is extremely stable in DWC. When you mix up the Salt and the PBP do you have to use any PH adjusters to get the PH in an ideal range?

 

[chosen]

I'm curious as well. I'm going to order some bulk sea salts and play around with this. Is osirica420 still around?
Much Respect!!!

 

[pmd]

Ive used Himalayan salts alone at 750 ppm, plants started to die from salt build up immediately, used sea-90 and great results. Im unsure if it was because I was using the wrong brand or what, just a heads up. Id love to know the brand name and mineral analysis of that NZ salt though, anything with more minerals and less sodium is good IMO

So far Sea-90 has the least SodiumChloride at about 75%(http://www.seaagri.com/docs/uga_analysis.pdf) wheras all the NZ salts ive seen are around 90%, but im sure there are better sources, just need to know where to find them =)