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Round Infinity
- Thread starter Avinash.miles
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ehhhh
altho that sounds super nifty... imo more work than it's worth, also more space needed that it's worth imo.
im dumping these old style hoods in favor of the good old econowing style; lowering wattages and increasing air exchange as well should be key.
decided to just cut that 6/18 tent at about 7 weeks total; def they seemed finished and i didn't feel like fighting the mites that close to harvest, cleaned out the tent and will be spraying it down inside and out hardcore.
took a ton of clones, put a shitload more hemp seeds out in the field... also planted some spaghetti squash and kabocha squash (both from seed) in the field as well as some watermelons (sugar baby and moon and stars)
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Sounds like you are a busy farmer, you inspired me to start a lil garden veggies only. Got a couple 100 gallon ecoplanters. I got some compost, dirt, perilite and a bale of sunshine 4, per 100 gallon ecoplanter. hoping it works my first time doing this. Got some spaghetti squash also. My wife makes it into a healthy pasta replacement, since she had weightloss surgery, she can't have pasta. I got a bunch of compost left going to till it in around my fruit trees.
good for you, nothing better than home-grown veggies & herb
we just ate our first dinner of greens out of the garden, mostly mustards
imo fresh lettuce is so much better than anything you can get at the store, that alone is worth gardening - im a sucker for salad greens.
tomatoes are the same way, every one at the store was picked green - a truly vine ripened tomato is a thing of beauty imo, like 20% amber on nugs you grew yourself
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sprayed for mites in the tents today, noticed a particularly loud and early stank on the legend OG's - like an orange piney gas already at week 4
What did you spray with? I'm just getting around to do a spraying again also in the next few hours.
I've been messing around with some home mixed sprays for pest control. I've been using sm-90 for the longest time to kill mites, but it costs me $ for such a small amount. Many months ago I started using canola oil from the grocery store and found it to be just as effective in smothering the mites when mixed to a 5-1 ratio like the sm-90. The canola oil hangs around much longer then the sm-90, so it will stay on surfaces which creates a surface the bugs don't like to cross. You have to keep shaking the bottle to keep it mixed.
I like to also use neem oil, but if you mix sm-90 and neem oil together and spray on your plants the neem and the sulfer in the sm-90 tend to not play well together and it damages leaves. Well, I've gone and mixed canola oil and neem together and sprayed them and I saw no sign of damage to the leaves. This will be my 2nd round with the canola oil and neem mix.
The last thing I played around with was taking water that was in the fridge and then spraying the cold water on the plants. The cold water left the leaves just as cold as the water after spraying, I saw no sign's of any shock to the leaves from the cold water.
Perhaps a suggestion for a little test. If you find a plant with mites on leaves, take a sandwich bag and place the leaf in the bag, or several leaves in several bags and place them into the fridge. The tests would be to see if the mites react negatively to the cold temps. The test would be to observe the mites reaction to cold temps, the introduction of sudden cold temps. I've already observed how freezing temps will kill mites.
I've been messing around with some home mixed sprays for pest control. I've been using sm-90 for the longest time to kill mites, but it costs me $ for such a small amount. Many months ago I started using canola oil from the grocery store and found it to be just as effective in smothering the mites when mixed to a 5-1 ratio like the sm-90. The canola oil hangs around much longer then the sm-90, so it will stay on surfaces which creates a surface the bugs don't like to cross. You have to keep shaking the bottle to keep it mixed.
I like to also use neem oil, but if you mix sm-90 and neem oil together and spray on your plants the neem and the sulfer in the sm-90 tend to not play well together and it damages leaves. Well, I've gone and mixed canola oil and neem together and sprayed them and I saw no sign of damage to the leaves. This will be my 2nd round with the canola oil and neem mix.
The last thing I played around with was taking water that was in the fridge and then spraying the cold water on the plants. The cold water left the leaves just as cold as the water after spraying, I saw no sign's of any shock to the leaves from the cold water.
Perhaps a suggestion for a little test. If you find a plant with mites on leaves, take a sandwich bag and place the leaf in the bag, or several leaves in several bags and place them into the fridge. The tests would be to see if the mites react negatively to the cold temps. The test would be to observe the mites reaction to cold temps, the introduction of sudden cold temps. I've already observed how freezing temps will kill mites.
i've been using home made green cleaner as described in who dat is' thread
sls via sals suds cleaner, iso, pinch of citric acid and some oils (sometimes i use essential oils, sometimes other oils like veg oil or soybean oil or neeml)
when shits real bad i may spray pyrethrins or even azamax
often rinse with beneficials like calphos, kelp/alfalfa tea, compost/ewc tea, em1/quantum
sls via sals suds cleaner, iso, pinch of citric acid and some oils (sometimes i use essential oils, sometimes other oils like veg oil or soybean oil or neeml)
when shits real bad i may spray pyrethrins or even azamax
often rinse with beneficials like calphos, kelp/alfalfa tea, compost/ewc tea, em1/quantum
I've been having a lot of success with the spray outlined in that thread and it's so damn cheap in comparison to buying the prefabbed shit. I just recently sprayed it on some clones that were wilting and they perked right up too.
I wish I was at a more permanent spot so I could dedicate the time and space to building and putting together gardens too. Definitely jealous of all the cool shit you get to do Miles 
Keep up the good work
Keep up the good work
I wish I was at a more permanent spot so I could dedicate the time and space to building and putting together gardens too. Definitely jealous of all the cool shit you get to do Miles
Keep up the good work
thanks bud,
feeling pretty overwhelmed here lately, in between workers and lots of planting to do, not getting as good of germ rates from seed in the field as i was hoping for (yet... maybe i'm being impatient?)
new indoor run is flipped at least, i feel like that is a good start to getting ahead, or at least not falling behind
had to kill a "who dats glue" male in the lite dep... was sad to see her go, also had to kill a male giganticus indicus. pretty sure i have a female of each still tho.
full season plants are in the ground topdressed with compost and mulched with hay... watering them in with every beneficial biological i have on hand including some fermented plant extracts i've made
HorseBadoritiz
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I love this thread, it has little bit of everything, lol! What fpe's are you using?
i made one from birch branches, sweet potatoes, bananas, papaya and ganja fan leaves
i made one using garlic, ginger and hot hot peppers
working on one made with rock dusts
also working on one made from alfalfa and field grasses
One of the only threads ledt bumpin with awesome data...awwwww ya.
Ill hit them with bennies after a nuke with avid or floramite and its like nothin ever happen..
So Im gonna spray neem for the first time in a long time tonight.
Got the buildasoil stuff recc. By ggk, and it seems real pure...
I have fulpower, agsil, and liquid kelp I was gonna add with it...
Should I hold back on those and run neem/dr.bronners liquid soap 1:1? I have sm90 too but it seems like the DR.B might be a better surfactant.
Also how often should one wait between hitting them with neem?
thanks waxii don't use neem all that often, actually kind of try to avoid it anytime near bloom
i'd say i use it about a week apart at most, usually more like once every 3 weeks, ive found the OTHER oils (essentials, veg/soy) to do just as good if not better than the neem especially when mixed with the DIY green cleaner ingredients.
for a while i was having trouble getting the neem oil to properly emulsify into the spray water, so i started using a 70% neem mix that had surfactants in it and would dilute right into water with just a shake.
but, didn't re-up that bottle, found an old dyna neem, using it up and will see after that, hopefully i can knock these fuckers back and be on maintenance the rest of the summer
i stopped using the agsil - seemed like my plants were always kinda brittle (too much si?) and i was seeing residue of the agsil on my leaves... didn't seem to really knock the mites back or wipe them out in any way so i stopped using it, haven't experienced any obvious signs of LOW si so i think the agsil is kinda unnecessary in my regime. i was told that high doses of the agsil would kill mites, but what ELSE does that high dose of si do when applied to the phyllosphere? i'm not exactly sure and i ain't trying to find out
when it comes to beneficial foliar sprays, or beneficial rinses, i tend to keep it simple; not mixing many good things in one spray just spraying a couple things; like fish protein aminos... plants seem to really like a foliar spray of the fish aminos; also i've felt like i've seen good (overnight) results from alfalfa sprouted seed teas sprayed on plants in veg and early bloom.
fulvic is good foliar spray, but i feel like it is best used in the soil - i still spray it from time to time tho.
HorseBadoritiz
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All the fpe's I've made with a mix of stuff have been disasters on cannabis, lol! I have much better luck using single inputs.
I've got a yarrow one going right now. I'm having a PM problem, hoping the fungicidal stuff in the yarrow deal with it without having to go ballistic!
A rock dust fpe sounds exceptionally beneficial... what's your recipe for that?
im curious, please elaborate on the disasters you have experienced from mixed input ferments on cannabis? i gotta know
im planting lots of yarrow this year in hopes of having plenty in the future.
for the rock dust ferment i'm using glacial soft rock phosphate, mammoth P, Labs, sugar, water, and some rice hulls kind of as a carrier and giving the whole mix a lil bit of structure and consistency. maybe added some other rock dusts, not exactly sure, can't remember, just threw this one together
in the past i've done calphos rock dust with labs and calphos rock dust with vinegar
my favorite, of course, for calphos liquid is the toasted eggshells as describe on the unconventional farmer, we have been stockpiling eggshells in anticipation of a big batch of liquid calphos, this time using 30% horticultural vinegar
HorseBadoritiz
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This what a plant looked like the day after I gave it a pineapple/yarrow fpe.
I also did a pineapple/currant/raisin, and a banana peel/yarrow mix that were worse, but no pics.
I made those when I was 1st messing with fpe's, and didn't have much of a clue, so it could have been dosages, or even too much air in the jugs. Could have been something to do with some of the ingredients, too, I was cleaning out the fridge!
I've since made yarrow, and banana peel separately, and then mixed them, and had fine results. Maybe I got better at making them, but I'm not taking any more chances, unless I go for that rock dust mix, lol!
that's pretty interesting horse.... thanks for sharing!
i've never had any adverse reactions from FPE's in my garden.... wait... there was that one time i fed some super concentrated labs water to a baby basil and it just died the next day; but on larger established ganja plants i've had no issues, and i have used as much as 2-3 oz per gallon of my ferments (usually finish around 3-4 pH)
always best to play it safe....
i've never had any adverse reactions from FPE's in my garden.... wait... there was that one time i fed some super concentrated labs water to a baby basil and it just died the next day; but on larger established ganja plants i've had no issues, and i have used as much as 2-3 oz per gallon of my ferments (usually finish around 3-4 pH)
always best to play it safe....
Hey Miles, the CBD hemp that you got going. How do you intend to process it after harvesting it? Are you going to be turning it all into an oil?
Do you know how the CBD stuff smokes? I've been wondering lately about how the stuff was breed and if they just focused on the CBD's and not the smoke quality of the actual bud. But I've wondered about this since I've never gotten a hold of any.
Do you know how the CBD stuff smokes? I've been wondering lately about how the stuff was breed and if they just focused on the CBD's and not the smoke quality of the actual bud. But I've wondered about this since I've never gotten a hold of any.
Popice
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I'm totally interested in this too. Hemp should be unbelievable in so many ways. not just cannabinoids but fiber. that may really take a lot, but I knew people with less than 50 sheep that would still have regular wool. hemp can go so light and fine, layering in the heat to keep cool. sounds weird. but on a different note, hemp seed straight into soil outdoors? I've been meaning to go through and read more than random pages here before I jumped in, but most people I know with cash crops always get some kinda size going on personal farms. direct sowing can be risky. over shoot, grow, clone, and sell/give away/compost the extras you don't plant. I mean I guess corn doesn't work that way, but tomatoes do, any regular veggies really. helps define rows too probably.
flavors vary strain to strain. alot of people grew the otto2 strain last season and that stuff smells like wet dog and peanut butter.... not good, smokes like rope; but makes good oil, yields well - if you find phenotype that doesn't run "hot" (>0.3 THC)
we will be processing some of it ourselves, and will be selling bulk plant matter to processors / buyers
colorado dept of ag is currently attempting to create licensing avenues for hemp commodity handlers - basically people bonded to middleman hemp crops at harvest time
not really worried at this point about selling/harvesting im just trying to get the stuff growing in the ground right now...
ya, im wishing i had started a ton of seeds to plant as seedlings, and starting some NOW thinking "better late than never"
not getting great germ rates in the field for veggies OR hemp from seed, maybe just being impatient but im thinking of going thru and re-seeding some areas where im not seeing much emerging.
i know several other farmers who have direct sown hemp seed into their fields and done well - most of them sowed earlier than i am; a couple are still planting seeds at fields in different elevations and growing zones.
