just hangin' there, drying
looks dank & reeks
keeping it cool in the dry room, that's the only way i've found to effectively slow down the super fast dry out that comes with growing in a high desert.
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looks dank & reeks
keeping it cool in the dry room, that's the only way i've found to effectively slow down the super fast dry out that comes with growing in a high desert.
about 10-12 days is nice; not much quicker than that
I'm on Bx2 using the indica "norcal/pittsburgh" catpiss.
I used Bodhi's Moontang as a top-cross...
The "art" part of the science is the selection...
I'm trying to increase node space a touch and increase lateral branching, but the catpiss specific aroma is hard to hold onto... very recessive...
>Basil
Enoch Powell and I agree with what he said.... with all the funk, the flavor is such a bland basil-like flavor it's surprising...
I expected more in terms of flavor upon being exposed to the sheer amount of odor.
Every male that I've seen local cats grow from the top-cross has been stellar thus far.
>Basement
Big difference... trying to control humidity is much easier there... its naturally a bit more humid... I hung for around 7-8 days and then moved em upstairs.
-t. Pueblo area
ya the catpiss moontang still has that "funky basil"smell but also has more ammonia stink to it imo; haven't really smoked a whole lot of the norcal catpiss, so i'll finally be able to have a good side by side comparison of the smoke soon; but i've really been enjoying the catpiss x moontang lately
checked in on the breeding donuts and i'm seeing more small scatterings of pollen, anyday now it's really gonna be dusty in there; might consider a small fan in the breeding tent to circulate air to push pollen around the space and get more complete coverage and hopefully more seeds
lots of work in the big room, tweaking the situation of the lights, cleaning up
spraying all of veg over and over and over; enzymes, essential oils, beneficials - have some forbid and some azamax that i will probably use at some point jsut to be safe.... (i know, gross)
checked in on the breeding donuts and i'm seeing more small scatterings of pollen, anyday now it's really gonna be dusty in there; might consider a small fan in the breeding tent to circulate air to push pollen around the space and get more complete coverage and hopefully more seeds
lots of work in the big room, tweaking the situation of the lights, cleaning up
spraying all of veg over and over and over; enzymes, essential oils, beneficials - have some forbid and some azamax that i will probably use at some point jsut to be safe.... (i know, gross)
good info guys, im really surprised theres even a hybrid around. only saw a couple packs of catpiss, about 5-7 years ago. it was from norcal actually, outdoor. it left quite an impression on me to say the least. i think i am gonna have to get some of his gear when i can afford new breeder packs. how many did you crack avinash? ill go back and look at your pheno descriptions again...
i only popped about a packs-worth of the catpiss moontang - not sure how much info about phenos you will find in my threads, it's been something that kinda drifted my way via the grow-buddies in my state.
for sure the moontang cross has more nasty reek to it than the elmers glue fire cookies cross; altho the egfc cross (both phenos) were frosty as all hell, certainly as trich-laden as the moontang cross and the original norcal cp
just popped some (catpissxmoontang) x flo scout along with dosidos x flo scout, got good germ rates and look forward to see what comes from those
also plan on very soon popping more of the catpiss x moontang
for sure the moontang cross has more nasty reek to it than the elmers glue fire cookies cross; altho the egfc cross (both phenos) were frosty as all hell, certainly as trich-laden as the moontang cross and the original norcal cp
just popped some (catpissxmoontang) x flo scout along with dosidos x flo scout, got good germ rates and look forward to see what comes from those
also plan on very soon popping more of the catpiss x moontang
I find that by the time the stems breaks i've waited too long and they have dried out too much. 7-9 days is my normal hang time.
^ catpiss x elmers glue fire cookies
^ trapper creek on the hang dry
^^ sour bubble male, finally going into full ejac mode
^ Kiddie pool tent just starting to hint at budset
ya the proof is in the pudding when it comes to shared root-space
if you look thru my last grow journal thread "elbow room" you see where i grew in one kiddie pool in a room with lots of other plants in other sized containers, same strain same soil but much better results from plants in the kiddie pool with shared rootzone.
^ half of the OTHER kiddiepool in that tent, taller plants in back are white99 and in front are the shorter catpiss x moontang
^ white 99
^breeding time!
^ breeding donut #2
^ deep chunk in the breeding donut
i could't help myself had to throw one in the mix
Cool observation. I guess the plants get lonely and like some rootzone friends? I'll have to keep that in mind for future projects.
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Since when was that a thing?
Cool observation. I guess the plants get lonely and like some rootzone friends? I'll have to keep that in mind for future projects.
*EDIT* - Since when was that a thing?
not so much about being lonely, or having friends nearby....
like imagine 5 plants in 20 gallon pots, now imagine a 100 gallon bed with 5 plants in it. each of the 5 plants in the bed have available to them all of the 100 gallons, not just 20 as if they were in their own containers
canopy size matches how far laterally the roots can run, in nature
i bet you could do a small kiddie pool in your crawlspace, just center the pool beneath the vert bulb and train plants out and around the bulb; i've considered doing the same and am kinda mad at myself for not doing more vert in recent years....
that you may not vote anymore today thing has been around forever btw
I couldn't fit a kiddie pool through the crawlspace access in the floor
but I like where your head is at. 
I could definitely see myself doing something like that in a tent for a no till set up. Really cool idea. I'm going to file that idea under, "When I finally have a house of my own". Hopefully that timeframe is sooner rather than later.
I couldn't fit a kiddie pool through the crawlspace access in the floor
i bet you could fit one of the small ones into the crawl space, they are less than 4 ft diameter and can be folded in half when empty
other option would be a big wide low fabric pot....
not saying you should, but i bet you could
def something to do when you are in stable location
I'm trying to decide between totes or the pool idea, and you're helping me decide on the pool. Makes sense for the larger root space, and I think it would be more forgiving on the watering.
If one side was a bit dry the wetter areas would be available if roots were present. A plus because I sometimes underwater in an effort not to overwater with water only soil mixes.
So much easier to judge a container of promix, either by weight or visually.
ive found that soil moisture equalizes thruout the pools pretty good, like you say.
also EXTRA mulching is really key with these beds, because the large surface area has potential to dry out fast, and shallow soil beds (12 - 15 inches)...
for my next flowering round i'm considering covering each kiddie pool with a black plastic over the mulch layer; i think that will further reduce my need for watering; and i'll be able to increase air circulation in the room without having to worry about soil dryout;
in the future i will build beds with side walls high enough to contain a very very thick mulch layer, these kiddie pools are so low that they are constantly spilling over and making a mess; mucho no bueno
This got me thinking about concrete mixing tubs like this, http://www.homedepot.com/p/Plasgad-Black-Large-Concrete-Mixing-Tub-887102C/205451585
Even though they say this is a size Large it stills seems way smaller than what I was thinking of and have used in the past when I was doing projects and what not. Imagine this from what I posted but 2-3 times the size. You would still have the problem of lower wall height but I like the fact that these would have thicker plastic than a kiddie poll and these also have right angles so you could theoretically stick these alongside other ones and they would have a good size to run perhaps 6 in it with 2 rows of 3. I still like the kiddie pool idea for a vert setup though
I'm going to keep searching around real quick for the container I was thinking of.
Even though they say this is a size Large it stills seems way smaller than what I was thinking of and have used in the past when I was doing projects and what not. Imagine this from what I posted but 2-3 times the size. You would still have the problem of lower wall height but I like the fact that these would have thicker plastic than a kiddie poll and these also have right angles so you could theoretically stick these alongside other ones and they would have a good size to run perhaps 6 in it with 2 rows of 3. I still like the kiddie pool idea for a vert setup though
I'm going to keep searching around real quick for the container I was thinking of.
In hindsight I guess I'm remembering things bigger than they were? 
Sounds like I'm setting myself up for a joke...
Here is another one that I found, http://www.stonetooling.com/Mixing-Tub-Extra-Large-p/70.11000.htm 60"x40"x10 which puts the volume at 103.82961 gallons. Seems to be plausible for stacking these next to each other if need be. Make a little dolley for them and you could move them around? Tangents
Sounds like I'm setting myself up for a joke...Here is another one that I found, http://www.stonetooling.com/Mixing-Tub-Extra-Large-p/70.11000.htm 60"x40"x10 which puts the volume at 103.82961 gallons. Seems to be plausible for stacking these next to each other if need be. Make a little dolley for them and you could move them around?
Tangents
ya those will work, for about the same price you can get a flood table (like for hydro) and use it like a planter bed, i did that in the elbow room, used a home-made moving-blanket smart pot as a liner, just remember that you need room for mulch layer and topdresses in addition to soil depth; so a container that is only 10 inches deep only allows for about 8 inches of soil depth if you keep a 2" mulch layer (much thinner than i am aiming for)
i'd say you want something 12-15 inches deep at least, and even at that depth you will end up mounding in the center and having spillage of mulch/topdressings and maybe even water from feedings.
depth is key, too much won't really be an issue (soil more than 36 inches deep is overkill imo, but shouldn't cause problems ever) - too shallow will cause issues, even if it's just a lil mess from spillage
don't forget drain holes, you buy something heavy duty, very rigid or the wrong material may crack or shatter when you drill it out. The soft flexible plastic of a kiddie pool won't crack, but i've drilled out totes and buckets tht wanted to crack and just turn to shit when I added drain holes.... also mucho no bueno
how about the "bagster" fabric dumpsters... put it on pallets or right on the floor.... i've seen them before and thought to myself "hmmm, big soil bed"
i'd say you want something 12-15 inches deep at least, and even at that depth you will end up mounding in the center and having spillage of mulch/topdressings and maybe even water from feedings.
depth is key, too much won't really be an issue (soil more than 36 inches deep is overkill imo, but shouldn't cause problems ever) - too shallow will cause issues, even if it's just a lil mess from spillage
don't forget drain holes, you buy something heavy duty, very rigid or the wrong material may crack or shatter when you drill it out. The soft flexible plastic of a kiddie pool won't crack, but i've drilled out totes and buckets tht wanted to crack and just turn to shit when I added drain holes.... also mucho no bueno
how about the "bagster" fabric dumpsters... put it on pallets or right on the floor.... i've seen them before and thought to myself "hmmm, big soil bed"
