Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[bombadil.360]

It's sad to see someone who, by all accounts, is religious, judging someone by their supporters, and not the message.

No person here speaks for Ron Paul. Only he can do that.

What's even more sad is you admit to being a bigot. You can try and hide behind the veil of "I hate all equally" but that is cute way of spreading hate without directionality. Do you hate yourself?

I think you need to re-read your good book and take notes this time. Look for the parts where it says love your neighbor.

ignoring all the childish things you have to say about me instead of my arguments:

I not only judge Ron Paul by his supporters, but also by what the man himself has to say. he wants to go back to the gold standard, which means, he is unable to understand the basic fact that such is impossible, first, there is not enough gold to do so, second, we're beyond the primitive economic phase of measuring value with shinny objects. someone with those primitive ideas is truly not my cup of tea.

keep on with the belief that all it takes to fix a country or the world is some politicians too. will do wonders for you.

it's like kids who think superman is real. or people waiting for the messiah.

keep on waiting...

tick tock tick tock

 

[SpasticGramps]

the basic fact that such is impossible, first, there is not enough gold to do so,

Improbably yes, impossible no. There is enough gold, it's simply a matter of price.

You assume that it is impossible for developed countries central banks to fail. Something that El Arian the CEO of PIMCO (the world's biggest bond investment company) alluded will happen soon if we don't get our act together (which we won't).

You probably think PIMCO and bonds are conspiracy theories though. I'm sure you'd be quick to call Bill Gross and El Arian tin foil hat loony toons. Since it seems everything market related you don't understand is a conspiracy theory.

 

[bombadil.360]

Improbably yes, impossible no. There is enough gold, it's simply a matter of price.

You assume that it is impossible for developed countries central banks to fail. Something that El Arian the CEO of PIMCO (the world's biggest bond investment company) alluded will happen soon if we don't get our act together (which we won't).

You probably think PIMCO and bonds are conspiracy theories though. I'm sure you'd be quick to call Bill Gross and El Arian tin foil hat loony toons. Since it seems everything market related you don't understand is a conspiracy theory.

wait out of all people, you are calling me a conspiracy theorist?

yeah, ok...

 

[SpasticGramps]

wait out of all people, you are calling me a conspiracy theorist?

yeah, ok...

No, that was not what I was saying. Try reading it again and see if you can figure it out.

 

[itisme]

drones and all that jazz are only evidence of implementation of new technologies

all the new political moves, are just the same old political moves, all done with the hopes to grip at that power for as long as they possibly can. not new, maybe new for you if you're still 16, like you apparently are.

Drones over the US are not old news!!!! FAA passed it less than six months ago.
If you admitt some are trying to yeild control why do you act like I am paranoid for pointing out who they are, what they are doing, how they are doing it, and some of the new toys they plan on doing it with? Your retort and thought processes show you to be the immature one.

Yeah, Implementation of new technologies for what?????? You have to think more than one level deep dude. You call me paranoid but why does TSA ned 450,000,000 rounds or .40 HI GRADE. Why do we need 30,000 military drones over the US? Why does FEMA need 400 MILLION plus MRE's?

WHAT ARE THEY SO PARANOID ABOUT?????? You call me Paranoid but they are the ones buying up all the suppies and arresting protestors and people loading up on supplies. Why are they spying so much...... You better wake up!

Why was the MARCH ON THE WHITE HOUSE NOT EVEN COVERED?

Why is there a Ron Paul media BLACKOUT?

Why is there no coverage of the 6,000 plus at RP Rallies?

Why is there no difference in BUSH, CLINTON, BUSH, OBAMA????

Who are the Billderberg Group?
Who are the Trilateral Commision?
Who is the CFR? Councel on Foreign Relations and what their Agenda?
What is SKULL & BONES about? Who are they? What did W Bush and John Carrey say about them being in it? "It's a SECRET!"
What is AGENDA 21?
Why is the EPA taking peoples lands?
Why does the FDA say MMJ has no medicinal qualities only to have BIG PRARMA make synthetics?
What are these clips about?
RITUAL - Bush In Class Room, The Kids Are Saying: KITE, STEEL, PLANE, MUST, HIT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-DTGdL6whY

George Bush Sr. New World Order Live Speech Sept 11 1991
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byxeOG_pZ1o

These are all quesitons I have sought the answere to, have you?

 

[itisme]

And I Didn't Speak Up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqebJ7ZYTAo

 

[SacredBreh]

^^^^^ Wish I could give you double Karma for that post Itisme! Been hitting that button for what seems like weeks. Love the new twist on an old quote about the Nazi's ..... The saddest thing of all is we have seen all this before and still the same type of bury your head in the sand and pretend it is not real people are doing it again.

To hell with the conspiracy theories. Wake the fuck up and look around you at the cold hard facts. It is now legal in the US to detain citizens without any due process for an indeterminate amount of time and even strip them of their citizenship..... all by our own military. That is black and white cold hard fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To hell with gold or shinny. The people who came here to get away from shit like this warned us and wrote laws to prevent this. If people have become so apathetic and ignorant, then maybe this is the way our over populated gene pool will work itself out.

I myself don't see anything evolved in the last 80 years in the human animal that will prevent the types of atrocities we saw in the Nazis or the idiots who sat back while it was happening and denied it as fervently as these idiots.

BLACK AND WHITE---admitted TORTURE, MURDER, SECRET PRISONS, WIRE TAPPING WITHOUT LEGAL OVERSIGHT, ILLEGAL WARS, ENDLESS WAR THUS FAR since 60s, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT WARRIORS, ADMITTED WAR CRIMES, CITIZEN EXECUTION BY ORDER OF THE PRESIDENT.......... naw just evolution of technology.......or borderline IQ...... don't worry the world is proving which one! Do you think we would admit to these things if we didn't do them????

PEACE

 

[bombadil.360]

No, that was not what I was saying. Try reading it again and see if you can figure it out.

I understood you alright; yet, it was really funny to see you trying to label me as one who dismisses everything as 'conspiracy theories'; specially comming from you.

when the fact is that you do the opposite, anything you cannot understand, you explain away through conspiracy theories.

you have this infantile view of this idealized, illuminated and benevolent community of 'proles' being manipulated by the evil conspirators neo-liberal 'bourgeois'.

you have been years now yelling "the end is comming", "the revolution will not be televised"... these, of course, all being signs of primitive thinking, and none of your predictions have came to pass after all these years, and yet, you cling to your infantile imagination.

if you had a faint idea of the market today; you'd be less worried about numbers and graphs and infantile leftie ideologies, since you'd see the market for what it truly is, good and services that must meet human needs. such will never come to an end, unless the planet suddenly explodes or something like this.

the dollar can fall, the euro can also fall, but so what? there will still be needs to be met and another currency will replace the ones that have fallen; so all your ramble is meaningless.

Ron Paul's ideas are also out-dated and primitive, sure, he may want cannbis to be legal, but that is not enough... his views on economy and how to deal with terror states are laughable at best.

it is sad to see grown-men come up with all sorts of mental masturbations to blame anything other than the fucked-up nature of most human beings; it is infantile to think some obscure elite invented this notion of 'terrorism' to impose 'patriot act' like rules to control the 'benevolent proles'.

you guys want cold-hard-facts? ask the countless women getting stoned to death in places like Iran, then come back and try to justify Ron Paul-like stances on the issue.

the world is not black-and-white, and you cannot assume rigid ideological stance in hopes to 'fix' it. again, this is merely your monkey-like-primitive basic reflexions.

the world is big, complex and mysterious, and anyone claiming to understand its workings and how to make the world 'good' under their subjective arbitrary notions, is just still an ape.

go beat your chests and pull your hairs out of your heads and scream at your tv sets when you see the the charts and little numbers when the stocks open on monday, you'll feel important and intelligent.

 

[monkey5]

bombadil.360, ~~~
SacredBreh,
^^^^^ Wish I could give you double Karma for that post Itisme! Been hitting that button for what seems like weeks. Love the new twist on an old quote about the Nazi's ..... The saddest thing of all is we have seen all this before and still the same type of bury your head in the sand and pretend it is not real people are doing it again.

To hell with the conspiracy theories. Wake the fuck up and look around you at the cold hard facts. It is now legal in the US to detain citizens without any due process for an indeterminate amount of time and even strip them of their citizenship..... all by our own military. That is black and white cold hard fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To hell with gold or shinny. The people who came here to get away from shit like this warned us and wrote laws to prevent this. If people have become so apathetic and ignorant, then maybe this is the way our over populated gene pool will work itself out.

I myself don't see anything evolved in the last 80 years in the human animal that will prevent the types of atrocities we saw in the Nazis or the idiots who sat back while it was happening and denied it as fervently as these idiots.

BLACK AND WHITE---admitted TORTURE, MURDER, SECRET PRISONS, WIRE TAPPING WITHOUT LEGAL OVERSIGHT, ILLEGAL WARS, ENDLESS WAR THUS FAR since 60s, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT WARRIORS, ADMITTED WAR CRIMES, CITIZEN EXECUTION BY ORDER OF THE PRESIDENT.......... naw just evolution of technology.......or borderline IQ...... don't worry the world is proving which one! Do you think we would admit to these things if we didn't do them????

PEACE
__________________
My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.-- Albert Einstein

Ron Paul 2012!!! Our only candidate of choice!
~~~Sir, DID YOU JUST MISS THE ABOVE ENTIRE POST???? ..Great post SacredBreh!! Sorry, I had to re-post this for a bump!! monkey5

 

[dagnabit]

Poor fella still missed gramps' point...
Comprehension problem?

 

[monkey5]

dagnabit, Truth Spoken! monkey5

 

[bombadil.360]

yeah, do not let my posts disturb the little cult going on in here...

when you see my little condor in the thread, you need not to read the posts, simply assume I don't get it and applaud dag's "intelligent" comments.

 

[whodare]

I understood you alright; yet, it was really funny to see you trying to label me as one who dismisses everything as 'conspiracy theories'; specially comming from you.

when the fact is that you do the opposite, anything you cannot understand, you explain away through conspiracy theories.

lol your too funny. you immediately jump to one of the lowest forms of political discourse. calling people names like "conspiracy theorist" "infantile"...

i think one should look in the mirror

you have this infantile view of this idealized, illuminated and benevolent community of 'proles' being manipulated by the evil conspirators neo-liberal 'bourgeois'.

you have been years now yelling "the end is comming", "the revolution will not be televised"... these, of course, all being signs of primitive thinking, and none of your predictions have came to pass after all these years, and yet, you cling to your infantile imagination.

??? illuminated proles??? anywayyy, if you dont think big money works to suppress little money you are blind...

the reason the end hasn't come for you is because your interpretation of the end is complete. the end as we are talking about is the stability of the most powerful nation in the world.

and its far from primitive thinking to critically analyze the structure and workings of our economy and say "this isnt going to last" in fact its a display of 'pre cognition' witch takes high intelligence.

if you had a faint idea of the market today; you'd be less worried about numbers and graphs and infantile leftie ideologies, since you'd see the market for what it truly is, good and services that must meet human needs. such will never come to an end, unless the planet suddenly explodes or something like this

.

his farts have more of an idea about the market then you do so pay attention when the man talks...

the dollar can fall, the euro can also fall, but so what? there will still be needs to be met and another currency will replace the ones that have fallen; so all your ramble is meaningless.

yea they can and they will, and yes another will likely replace them(likely SDR or special drawing rights) why is that bad, well it's not.... IF YOUR FILTHY RICH

Ron Paul's ideas are also out-dated and primitive, sure, he may want cannbis to be legal, but that is not enough... his views on economy and how to deal with terror states are laughable at best.

liberty is never old, outdated or primitive. your idea of bombing the enemy to oblivion is...

it is sad to see grown-men come up with all sorts of mental masturbations to blame anything other than the fucked-up nature of most human beings; it is infantile to think some obscure elite invented this notion of 'terrorism' to impose 'patriot act' like rules to control the 'benevolent proles'.

mental masturbations another real adult term in a conversation...

yea humans are just animals, we already know that.

but again if you dont think big money works to control little money your willingly blind. terrorism has been around forever. why in the last decade or so has it become such a hot word used to rile the masses.

you guys want cold-hard-facts? ask the countless women getting stoned to death in places like Iran, then come back and try to justify Ron Paul-like stances on the issue.

? what does that have to do with anything, Ron Paul isnt promoting sharia law...

the world is not black-and-white, and you cannot assume rigid ideological stance in hopes to 'fix' it. again, this is merely your monkey-like-primitive basic reflexions.

point me in the direction were i may find were anyone said the world was black and white...

the world is big, complex and mysterious, and anyone claiming to understand its workings and how to make the world 'good' under their subjective arbitrary notions, is just still an ape.

sure is, but no one here claims to have the answers to make the world good. we want to get our country on track. we do know how to do that...

go beat your chests and pull your hairs out of your heads and scream at your tv sets when you see the the charts and little numbers when the stocks open on monday, you'll feel important and intelligent.

i dont really watch tv(or pull my hair and beat my chest). it rots the brain....

why dont you come back when you have more than personal insults to hurl around...

maybe bring some substance to your posts so i have some meat to respond to.

 

[itisme]

Here are two really cool videos I saw today. The first one may be a little off topic but I found it really neat.

The secrets hidden in the pyramids of Egypt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiMMERUpaNY

The Real Conspiracy Exposed. CFR- Council on Foreign Relations OBAMAS GANG - tied into this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmsd_Ky2p_w

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

yeah, do not let my posts disturb the little cult going on in here...

when you see my little condor in the thread, you need not to read the posts, simply assume I don't get it and applaud dag's "intelligent" comments.

The quest to restore the constitution is not a cult. We don't worship some weird idol and then drink poison kool-aid. we just want to be free. we are sick of taxation with out real representation. we are sick of corporate plutocracy mascaraing as a capitalist democracy. we are sick of the federal reserve and corporations owning our politicians. we are sick of paying for illegal wars. we are sick of the government stripping away the 1st, 4th, and 10th amendments.

Ron Paul is the only candidate addressing these issues. He is the only one who wants to restore civil liberties and property rights. All the other candidates are fighting over which rights to take away first.


basically Ron Paul wants to restore the USA. He has been consistent about this for his entire political career. he is one of the few trustworthy politicians.

 

[bombadil.360]

The quest to restore the constitution is not a cult.

of course it is a cult, the cult of the primitive minded.

you want to restore a constitution written hundreds of years ago, by men who never saw an airplane fly; written by men who never knew that technology has made the world "small", 'small' in the sense that today, you and I can travel and know hundreds, if not more amounts of information that the 'founding fathers' ever could have.

we are in a world where you can watch a film like Baraka and make reflections the 'founding fathers' never could.

we are in a world where speed of transfer of information is so vast that it would make the 'founding fathers' heads spin and hurt.

and yes, it is obviously a cult, one that worships the 'founding fathers' who by the way were slave-owners, as some sort of flawless super-intelligent role-models.

please...

and you kids tell me to wake up?

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

Would you rather us worship Wallstreet? [sic]

 

[monkey5]

~~~ Wow! ~~~ That is all .. No damm wonder we have such a Gubbberment!! monkey5

 

[bombadil.360]

Would you rather us worship Wallstreet? [sic]

I'm not anyone to tell you what or whom to worship. you're free to worship whatever or whomever that rocks your boat.

me, personally, do not worship anything or anyone.

 

[BrnCow]

of course it is a cult, the cult of the primitive minded.

you want to restore a constitution written hundreds of years ago, by men who never saw an airplane fly; written by men who never knew that technology has made the world "small", 'small' in the sense that today, you and I can travel and know hundreds, if not more amounts of information that the 'founding fathers' ever could have.

we are in a world where you can watch a film like Baraka and make reflections the 'founding fathers' never could.

we are in a world where speed of transfer of information is so vast that it would make the 'founding fathers' heads spin and hurt.

and yes, it is obviously a cult, one that worships the 'founding fathers' who by the way were slave-owners, as some sort of flawless super-intelligent role-models.

please...

and you kids tell me to wake up?

I won't bother to tell you to wake up troll...But I will tell you to go fuck yourself!

We have a vision as did the founding fathers and that vision doesn't include haveing the whole US stolen from the individual owners under the auspices of "property taxes" and our other things we own like cars, boats, and rvs under the "personal property taxes" laws either. Think it was not a theft? Try not paying them and see what happens. They will be taken from you by an armed LEO and resold to someone that will pay their rent called taxes. Stock market - just another casino venture.
40,000 new laws came into effect on Jan 1st,2012. How many more years will it take to make everyone except the LEO and politicians criminals. Or is it already happened while you were rubbing up against Obama...conspiracy theory? Not a chance - reality -done...