The public refers to government run. I agree with that part since everyone pays into it.If I'm running a public business, it's discriminatory to exclude because of factors noted in the CRA. If I want to run a private establishment, I may have more freedom to discriminate. I'm free to discriminate in my home. IMO, that's more than enough baggage for anybody to suffer.
All this had been going on for a long time. Only when the people rose up against it did the change occur. Like you said the public demanded reform.Wholesale segregation, murders, beatings, terror, voter intimidation... too much to attempt reference here. But we have an overwhelming historic account with text, pictures and video tape.
my full quote "The facts say otherwise. It's obvious Ron Paul didn't write the articles. That is what he has refuted. That is what matters. You are having to try too hard make it "sound" like he was okay with them when he wasn't. Everything Ron Paul stands for is in direct opposition to what was written. Why do you think you know differently?"then please reference them.
Like I mentioned before about agendas. One incident makes the person? How does that trump the fact that he's returned budget money designated for his office every year he's been in Congress. How does that trump the fact that he told us the exact reasons for the economic collapse?Doesn't speak well for management and oversight skills.
Nothing compelling. All you have referenced is someone said. Nothing factual. Not unlike what happened at Duke UniversityI've referenced some IMO compelling information, not just personal inclination. I don't have to profess that I know this to be true. Part of the vetting process is observing how these folks explain their respective controversial aspects. After all, the guy wants to be the leader of the free world.
This is incorrect. Are you saying he ran his medical practice AND the day to day operations of the newsletters even though they were far apart? How is that possible?Your making multiple absolutes with no references.
No that is your misguided perception. Ron Paul takes credit for what he personally wrote not what appears in the newsletter with his name. Big difference.Ron Paul takes personal credit for some of those articles. Are you saying he didn't write the ones he personally and publicly acknowledged?
This is incorrect. No one can get anothers tax records period. Why else does the media ask if the candidates will release their tax returns?I could go to Ron's house and say, give me copies of your taxes in question, inquiring minds want to know. Or, I could reference media accounts that obtained tax records through the Freedom of Information act. Besides, Ron Paul would quite probably refute making bank (if he didn't) and there would be reference you could cite.
You're referencing a mentally disturbed person as a reliable source. Why?Eric Dondero was the first guy to disparage the newsletter operation. Dondero said they recognized the whack shit delivered more cash than the non-whack shit. He also said they chose to continue the whack, even though it alienated the libertarian portion of their readers - because it was lucrative.
This is incorrect. What this person said was Ron Paul was there for the day to day operations. That was proved incorrect since he couldn't possibly run his medical business AND the newsletters at the same time. The distance was too great.Since, a former woman newsletter employee corroborated the same information. Sorry, don't have her name. I wouldn't mind dropping the link if and when I run across it but I'm inclined to imagine you'd say I made it up.
Again that is your misguided perception.The guy's almost 80 years old. What you've heard him say might represent hours. I never set out to convince you. I'll post the info and you can conclude whatever you want. I make no guarantees the info I cite is 100% accurate. Suggesting I made it up might be indicative of how you intend to disposition more damning information.
repeating it isn't the issue. Not having any substance is.IMO, repeating the same thing over and over isn't necessarily a mole hill.
This doesn't make sense. Refute what that Ron doesn't?Yeah, he's no longer in the newsletter for sale business. I don't know how you refute stuff that even Ron himself doesn't.
It wasn't a different business just a new operator or owner. But I get your meaning now.that's what the whole newsletter-changed-hands is about.
originally yes. Not the ones with the racist statements.Have you looked at any of em? Particularly the staff annotation - Editor - Ron Paul. (It's on the cover.)
This is incorrect. He said he didn't pay attention to what went out under his name after he left. He wasn't saying it happened when he editor.And this is where Ron himself concedes he didn't manage enough oversight.
That is your misguided perception yet again. My standard of fact is not someone said. All the evidence, Ron Pauls policies, his speeches where you can hear him speak and not what someone says he said are in complete disagreement with what was written in the newsletters.IMO, your standard of fact is whether it sounds good. If it sounds bad... well, I just made it up.
This doesn't make sense. On who happens? I said Ron Paul himself.I guess with you it depends on who happens to be doing the representation.
Without the audit the Federal Reserve Bill no one would know where our money is going. Trillions overseas to foreign businesses and banks. Which bill of his was bad? The one in 2003 that wanted to reel in the lending practices which ended up ruining us economically? The bill that wanted to give tax credits for medicine? He's not responsible for the actions of the big spenders.Where's the success? The gilded age isn't considered a success. His bill passage ratio is dismal and 30 years of national office reflects very little in regard to leadership. Sure he introduced a bill to reform weed but did he do anything to advance it? Would be interesting to hear what Ron does (or doesn't do) to effectively lobby his interests with his peers. House rotunda speeches are great but the practical applications of government are much more than speaking.
It started before that with Carter btw.Maybe, if Ron Paul is the only guy you're listening to. Congressman Dingle, economists and even president Bush wrangled over the obvious signs of over activity as early as 2003. And Greenspan never took these worries to heart, at least not enough to raise the prime lending rate.
He never did say that. He did say the blame was being passed around. This is what I mean when I say some people have an agenda and don't look for the truth but inside grab the first thing that they agree with.I'd be interested to see a link on that one. Is Ron still suggesting 9/11 was a gub job?
... The funny thing is that RP opponents don't actually believe that he's racist either. Opponents are just using this issue as a blunt and convenient weapon. WTF, talk about a red herring.
Cocky is an emotion I don't typically associate with ya, itisme. When we were smack dab in the middle of states rights issues, you beamed us up Scotty to Illuminati stuff and repeated it over and over for pages and pages.What about the REAL issues, DB? Yeah, I'm looking at you.
I got 200 pages of evidence showing he has no interest in the real issues.
I guess you're a fan of traverse redundancy. At first I thought you just liked to repeat yourself.He STFU about them around page 40-50 because I shut him down on them.
I've seen you laugh and cry but now you're doing it at the same time.Now I am ignoring him and he is trying to bring me out.....He is a troll, no way around it.
You remember where JJ Scorpio says anybody making aliases to back their opinions will be waxed? You inferred that Snout and I are one in the same. Did you happen to take a look and realize Snout's posting your side of the argument, not mine?Any Ron Paul supporter should not reply to DISCO or ZYMOS for sure,,..ShroomDrr is on my list but he hasn't got as much info against him as the other two, but he seems to be rowing in the same direction.
Thanks, I see more truth in those things than Ron Paul being a Racist. I kmow we have a Illuminati thread so I have lost nothing. Many people on this site will call you crazy for beleiving in God too. There loss, not mine.
What's really irritating about exchanging with you is you have to be reminded 30 times about every aspect.
(Whatever he is or isn't) pales to the fact he sells fear and hate for profit. He's no longer in the newsletter biz but he's busy selling conspiracy theories to the whole damn electorate. And if that's not enough, there's different versions depending on the audience. We're not talking the typical base to general shift, it's from whacked to retract in some cases. He's done a complete 180 on the subject of truthers.
And the little fella still has an out. While he simultaneously suggests ineptness AND direct intent, involving the government AND private entities, he can say the private entities had the motive while government unintentionally provided the ineptness.
Why else would he go off on Jake Tapper for inquiring about truthers? Why would any man openly and generously discuss any topic with a room full of people on video tape yet the same man lambasts a television journalist for similar inquiry?
That's easy. He's a conspiracy buff who recognizes that lots of folks don't go for a banana in their tail pipe.
Cocky is an emotion I don't typically associate with ya, itisme. When we were smack dab in the middle of states rights issues, you beamed us up Scotty to Illuminati stuff and repeated it over and over for pages and pages.
Tell you what, select any issue (other than conspiracy theories and Illuminati stuff.) Chances are I'll point out where I already opined on issue and if not will consider your thoughts.
You're stepping in your own pile of doo. 200 pages of text proves I'm as issue-oriented as anybody in this thread. Except for repeatedly asking you to get back on the track or feeling you need repeat explanations of the same thing, the thread has a shit load of info.
I guess you're a fan of traverse redundancy. At first I thought you just liked to repeat yourself.
I've seen you laugh and cry but now you're doing it at the same time.
You remember where JJ Scorpio says anybody making aliases to back their opinions will be waxed? You inferred that Snout and I are one in the same. Did you happen to take a look and realize Snout's posting your side of the argument, not mine?
Yep. Nothing new about nothing new.
Reality is far crazier than fiction.
lets not point any fingers. You dont know who snout is. that goes for both of you.
I BELIEVE Disco is currently for Obama, but i dont believe he is 100% thrilled with him (and Disco has ZERO problem with 'obamacare').
Personally, i dont disagree with RP on MANY concepts, i just feel his approach is naive. Its a Trojan horse, and it could just open the flood gates to an environment similar to China. China has a Chinese EPA, you still would want to breath Beijing air.
No one will convince me i can EFFECTIVELY bring litigation against polluters, not before their damage is done.
If youre for Dr Paul, thats fine, i got no beef, ending the drug war, and border war could lead to a paradigm shift, but dont fool yourself into thinking he is the savior against NWO.
If the other candidates are/have opened the front door to NWO, RP is opening the back door. His fiscal policy is exactly what 'they' would want.
I though we talked about single payer... well you and i our closer than i though then.IMO, zero problem is a rather interesting assessment.
And one last thing. For those of you that started a troll account and came into this thread and posted with it, after posting with your normal handle, it's a bannable offense. We don't mind someone having two handles but we do care when it's done for the sake of backing the opinion of another of their handles.
Anymore and both handles will be banned........
I love Snout or his points of view..... Funny how they take my jokes and show how poorly they consistanly interpret.\\
Snout has destroyed the NObama lover.