Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

[ElRubio]

Charlie Garcia gifted me some buds of his personal stash the other day. Thanks a lot bro, your sativas are awesome as i already knew jijiji

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[ElRubio]

Oaxaca/michocan spirit.
Firstly i must admit i dont remember if you tell me it was Michocana spirit or just Michoacana.
This one had woody and herbal taste, but a lil more citrusi in the smell departmen, but slightly, not as citrus-lime like your Mextiza.
The high was a bit crazy, dreamy, difficult to focus and such hehe.

Destroyer
The aroma on this one is more intense, licorice, slightly herbal, but peculiar anyway. Hard to describe, but pleasant. It has soraing high, and opened my eyes inmediately, ready to do the work. I noticed my mind was sooo clear.

Really thank you man. It was a pleasure to chat with you the other day, and learn a lot about pure satis. Gracias de veras tio.

 

[Budracer]

Wow the man himself,did you hit him up for some seeds?

 

[Mullum]

thanks so much elrubio for the pictures,they remind me of what I smoked in my youth

 

[Dr.Young]

Man.... Its getting that time where I need to pop some beans.... I dont have any Sativa stuff though!!!

I got some Seedsman's Sugar Haze....Some Killer Queen Redux f2s.. I might be able to hunt some c99 phenos down....GRRR

Wish I had some Zamaldelica or Mextiza......or something.... I wanna actually veg these up, and get some mommas instead of wasting stuff doing 12/12 from seed and praying I can reveg into a momma.....

Nobody has experience with Sugar Haze? Its pretty much all I got unless I settle for a 50/50 hybrid like the killer queen.

 

[vinrusso]

I've mentioned this a few times on various threads. I think its even mentioned on the first page under "american sativas".

The NYC haze, aka: piff, church, uptown haze is no secret. There have even been several newspaper articles and even a few news videos on it. About who is growing it and where they are doing it.

That haze has been around in the south since at least the late 90s. Before it showed up in New York. NYC haze got popular in New York after '04 and after the "cartoon network" delivery service era got shut down. This was when "diesel" weed was simply a clone only known as "new york city diesel" the other two big names were its cousin plant "chemdawg" or "head band". The last big name was "Strawberry Cough" which you don't hear much about anymore. "Piff" wasn't around much in those days.

It is known everywhere else except new york as "cuban haze", miami haze, florida haze, 90 days haze, and the black haze. Actually there are other colors too. Black is the most common commercial one though.

There have been large newspaper articles on it. Cuban Drug Trade Organizations smuggle in immigrants to suburban homes, and make them grow weed for a couple of years and then they get to keep the house as payment. The cubans smuggle it up into New York and sell grams of it on street corners for top dollar. They usually sell 3 gram 1/8's or .8 grams. That comes out to about $9000 per pound street value.

They pack a house full of lights, and have a couple of mother plants of the "90 day haze" It is a skinny bean pole of a plant that produces buds all the way down the stem. You can just root a cutting and pack it in to the grow room SOG style. Its finished when its finished. Eliminates the need for a veg room and makes it very simple for novice growers. When you take a plant out replace it with a clone in a one gallon pot. Simple as that.

It is no secret. I suggest you do some google searches about the cuban indoor marijuana business in Florida . There are quite a few newspaper articles written all about it.

Here are some old pics of the cartoon network era. Funny to think that back then Diesel weed was just a New York city legend. Hardly anyone including me had ever smoked diesel weed at that time. Boy did that sure change.

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Some info about the Florida scene. Just first page hits. You can look deeper.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20090716/NEWS/907165056

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-10-18/news/0910170154_1_cuban-grow-house-drug-agents

http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wor...es-dominate-marijuana-trade-in-south-florida/

Here is some random post that came up on the google search. It is basically true. Some of it is opinion but the rest is true.

Post by; Manic grower

"Despite not being really considered a Elite Strain, The OG Black Haze is probably one few pure haze that still exists in its origanal form....no backcrossing, crossing, or fems..So many people in miami have this cut that is heritige will never be lost..now that i think about i really cant recall another pure haze that exists in this way today where people can still get there hands on a cut of the origanal genetics....maybe the few that skunkman might have or some people out in holland, but this cut has been floating around miami for over 20+ years in its origanal form, and ive been smoking it for over 18+ years....Even though a ton of people in miami have this cut.....its really only shared amongst people in the latin american community, and if your not one of them its really hard to get your hands on this cut!

I really dont know to much of the background but im sure it was brought here from somewhere in s. america, cuba, or the carribean, but its the first choice strain with the commercial growers in miami. Personally, not only is this a TRUE COMMERCIAL YIELDER but its is THE MOST POTENT POT ive ever smoked to this day...Even Now, I prefer to buy this weed over my own weed, not only the stuff i grow but my friends grow both too, and i prefer the blacks over any cut ive ran! In Miami, not only do we have our Black haze in origanal form, but we have a OG Silver Haze, not SSH but the real Old School Silver Haze which has been floating around this area for 20+ years as well. Hands down the Black Haze is prefered over the silver haze 9 times out of 10...just to tell you how good this pot is!

This cut takes 90-120 days.."

Western Winds is just Sagarmathas version of "Kali Mist" by Serious Seeds. It isn't the nyc haze. nyc haze is clone only. One of them cubans could make a fortune by making fem'd seeds with it though.

What do yo consider original Haze? The Haze's from 79 or 80? Lets be honest here, original haze does not exist anymore. Many haze crosses. But original haze from the early 80's, was not called Haze where I was in OC Cali. Electric weed, and and a lot of thai crosses. After 1981 Thai stick was basically gone. When they busted that big shipment, in went down hill from there. It's easy to say now how the gene pool was polluted by breeders. But back then it was not even thought of. It was all about making the best crosses, but rarely with Indica. Even the Honey oil in the 80's, was sativa. Smoked in those glass pipes, talk about expando.

 

[vinrusso]

Zamelica, Fem Golden Tiger (Koh Chang) Pheno, or Malawi X Purple Haze. All from Ace seeds.

 

[Mustafunk]

A beautiful flower of my fav Nam Black girl from this season, can't wait to smoke a bit of them:

Vibes!

 

[OLDproLg]

YOU SPEAK OF HAZES,well i work the hazes here!!!!!!!!

YOU SPEAK OF HAZES,well i work the hazes here!!!!!!!!

NEW HAZE CROSSES

if you are interested,thats cool,because i LOVE THEM hehehehe!!
Stoned....
(irish spring haze)---(Cherry haze)---(Blue haze)***winners
Flavors all came threw in these new strains ive done,so here thay are
friends..
peace

 

[ElRubio]

Another one of my fav pure sativa:

Reina Madre / Queen Mother.
(Reunion x Congo x sativa) Mario´s cut.

Licorice and anise taste, psyquedelic as phuck high! FIRE!

 

[porn]

Wow ElRubio, beautiful RM Marios cut, how is the high on this girl? and if you know its similar to lilly or alice, or what of this you prefer more, anyone could answer thanks to all, love this thread.

 

[ElRubio]

hey bro!
I didnt try Alice yet, and lilly´s just once...so i can not be sure on what i preferred hehe The lilly i tried was straight pineapple taste (the Piña colada cut). Simply delicios, but i dont remember the high, cause i tried her among others that day. Tha taste on that Lilly was remarkable anyway...

the high on this RMs cut is very psyquedelic, soaring, more psycodelich than energetic compared to Destroyer fo example. And not as physic as the Golden Tiger for example. It reminds those african tastes like congolese, but with that special palette of effects that Reunion Islands´plants have. Its hard to describe, but its worth in my honest opinion. Lovely taste, superb high, good yield and acceptable flowering time.

Hope it helps. Vibes!!

 

[xxPeacePipexx]

Great thread ! It is threads like this that always bring me back. I know the reputation on both ends that this place holds but with this said. Threads like this make all the bullshit here worthwhile.

 

[Mtn. Nectar]

lookin' good folks............

curious if anyone is keeping these lines pure instead of bastardizing........or is it they need help so looking to improve.......???

all da best in the quest.............

ganj on...................

 

[stihgnobevoli]

if i find any landrace seeds i keep em pure. we don't need any more crosses lol.

 

[CimeTempestose]

if i find any landrace seeds i keep em pure. we don't need any more crosses lol.

..holy words !!

 

[Waldgeist]

missed to show my namib

 

[OLDproLg]

Right on folks,keep it commin!

Right on folks,keep it commin!

HAZE FROST.....




PEACE n be cool

 

[RandyCalifornia]

Beautiful girl Rubio, wish that cut was in Humboldt you can have all these OG'z

 

[Mtn. Nectar]

Niiiiice Wald......

lookin sweet old pro...........you cracker you............

is that a Molokai Frost hyb.........?