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Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread
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Mota de Dios
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Those Malawi x Meao Thai look great! Love to grow that one out, those buds look thick.
Esskie
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Esskie,you may want to use nitrogen sparingly until you get a feel for the plants requirement.I've had plants to revert to veg after adding nitrogen and I've had several to blow out and become stringy and way too airy.It can also cause them to flower indeterminately,meaning that it continues to produce new flowers even though older flowers are finished. Wild sats generally don't see much nitrogen in nature,I assume.You may want to try a staggered light regimine of 13-11,then 12-12,then 10-14 to induce flower if these are from near the equator.I haven't had luck with 12-12 inducing flower in equatorials.
Oh yea.With this type,a little dab'll do ya.Heres one with effects that lasted for 8+ hours.Only took a few light hits.Chicken soup for the soul.
Peace
Hi and thanks for that hardhat22
it sounds like a rogue sat I found in a pack of B52 seeds a few yrs ago, it was in 12/12 for weeks before even showing any signs of being remotely interested in flowering
I referred to it as a Haze but this was like no haze I'd ever grown, this is probably the most full on sativa we've ever done. It did have some of that citrusy/lemony smell but more musty with a back-taste reminiscent of hash you just don't see anymore
the one in the pics was by no means perfect!, it was grown in the same system as other different strains with a constant 12/12 lighting cycle.
This is good enough cause for their own tent so their differing requirements can be provided without affecting any other strains running at the time.
Lighting? -
, 400w & a 600w HPS lights are available but how about using 400wHPS with a 250w (6400K - blue) EV light to widen the spectrum?
my concern about the 600 is that it'll produce too much heat on it's own thus by the time I've added a MH my fans will be running flat out lol
ok, the EV or fluorescent strips don't produce any heat worth being concerned about so those are maybe the way to go should the 600w be used?, what do you think?
relief & raco
& +rep for such inspiring picsregards, esskie
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GroMore
Hey Raco,
Those Malawi x Meo Thai grown by TNT look great but they wouldn't have stood up to the rains we had here this year, would have been lying in the mud and rotted away in a flash. That's where the pure Malawi has it's advantages, not such tight heavy bud but that was its saving grace, the fact that it has an airy light weight bud that didn't give way under the huge force of subtropical rain...it makes me wonder how these heavier strains survive their native habitats where they cop similar rains if not heavier. Suppose it must be on a seasonal basis.
Great pics!
GroMore
Those Malawi x Meo Thai grown by TNT look great but they wouldn't have stood up to the rains we had here this year, would have been lying in the mud and rotted away in a flash. That's where the pure Malawi has it's advantages, not such tight heavy bud but that was its saving grace, the fact that it has an airy light weight bud that didn't give way under the huge force of subtropical rain...it makes me wonder how these heavier strains survive their native habitats where they cop similar rains if not heavier. Suppose it must be on a seasonal basis.
Great pics!
GroMore
TheFlyinHaWyn!
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mota, you still around?? how you doing?
miss reading your posts bro, i am not on this site much, but you are one good braddah!!
aloha bro!
miss reading your posts bro, i am not on this site much, but you are one good braddah!!
aloha bro!
The outdoor HOG is doing fine so far - turning purple with the colder nights, and fattening up - I can't imagine it will bud as densely as indoors, and am expecting leafier buds all round, but I'm still happy with progress, considering where I am! It's not quite as strong on the gear-oil smell outdoors either - sweeter, and slightly fruity:
RollmeoneKenobi
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H.O.G. is looking good there Eman!
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BeAn
a hps with a metal hylide would be great for bulking them up i would have thaught...
Beach Bum420
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hi again Esskie:
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you...I don't get on very often.
For a 1m square grow area 1000 watts total (HID) lighting is not too much. It will make a lot of heat. My advise is to spend the cash for the ventilation. The end result will more than pay you back for the added expense in bigger tighter buds. The MH will help control the stretch that sats do so easily. I use an even mix of hps and mh...but going 600 400 would be ok i think.
You can get cfc blacklghts ...very little heat and good uv lumen and penetration numbers.
I hope this will be of help to you.
Peace and love to all
Da Beach Bum
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you...I don't get on very often.
For a 1m square grow area 1000 watts total (HID) lighting is not too much. It will make a lot of heat. My advise is to spend the cash for the ventilation. The end result will more than pay you back for the added expense in bigger tighter buds. The MH will help control the stretch that sats do so easily. I use an even mix of hps and mh...but going 600 400 would be ok i think.
You can get cfc blacklghts ...very little heat and good uv lumen and penetration numbers.
I hope this will be of help to you.
Peace and love to all
Da Beach Bum
African herbman
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Nice Girls dkmonk! I would love to see some bud details on those ladys.
Good job so far man
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Good job so far man
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African herbman
Member
Still looks good though. I like the pinks/purples in some of those buds.
Who made the cross?
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Who made the cross?
Ah
localhero
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Whats up Sativa peoples!
I'm from so cal, as you might know, its mostly about the indicas here. so how stoked was I to attend a free grow class and get 20 free seeds of ssh x thai? Ive always been a fan of the sativas, ofcourse i had to grow em out. Of all 20 seeds, my newb ass only popped one, but to my luck it was a female. anyways, i vegged her out to about three ft, tossed her into half a 55 gallon drum and put her outside. Now Ive just started growing so im new to this, and since i was only able to pop out one of the 20 seeds(unable to compare phenos), i wanted to get your guys opinions on some questions i had about my favorite girl.
here are the facts:
-grown from seed
-medium is the lc mix of perlite, peat and worm castings
-fed iguana juice for the first part of veg (3 weeks) and guano/kelp/worm castings/molasses teas from then on (all organic)
-went from 1 gal to 5 gal to a cut in half barrel
- lighting started as ho t5 pl's for first 3 weeks, then had to move and changed the veg setup to 1000watt mh for 5 weeks, after that she went outside.
-veg lighting cycle was 24h
- had a bout of thrips in first 2 weeks of veg, and powdery mildew at weeks 3 and 4 of flower, all now under control (spinosad for thrips, and diluted milk spray for mildew)
- currently at week 5 of flower
- smells like pine and tropical fruit
- a little over 6 ft tall
heres my questions for you guys:
1 -what does she look more like, ssh or thai?
2- what does thai mean? that could be any type of thai right?
3- why is she so small, shes 6 ft and only stretched twice her size from veg, i thought sativas triple in size atleast when thrown into flower and were monsters in size. was it something i did to make her this small?
4- for being at 5 weeks, how developed do u think she is? it doesnt look to me like its gonna be a 16 week flowering period.
thanks to everyone here for any insight.
I'm from so cal, as you might know, its mostly about the indicas here. so how stoked was I to attend a free grow class and get 20 free seeds of ssh x thai? Ive always been a fan of the sativas, ofcourse i had to grow em out. Of all 20 seeds, my newb ass only popped one, but to my luck it was a female. anyways, i vegged her out to about three ft, tossed her into half a 55 gallon drum and put her outside. Now Ive just started growing so im new to this, and since i was only able to pop out one of the 20 seeds(unable to compare phenos), i wanted to get your guys opinions on some questions i had about my favorite girl.
here are the facts:
-grown from seed
-medium is the lc mix of perlite, peat and worm castings
-fed iguana juice for the first part of veg (3 weeks) and guano/kelp/worm castings/molasses teas from then on (all organic)
-went from 1 gal to 5 gal to a cut in half barrel
- lighting started as ho t5 pl's for first 3 weeks, then had to move and changed the veg setup to 1000watt mh for 5 weeks, after that she went outside.
-veg lighting cycle was 24h
- had a bout of thrips in first 2 weeks of veg, and powdery mildew at weeks 3 and 4 of flower, all now under control (spinosad for thrips, and diluted milk spray for mildew)
- currently at week 5 of flower
- smells like pine and tropical fruit
- a little over 6 ft tall
heres my questions for you guys:
1 -what does she look more like, ssh or thai?
2- what does thai mean? that could be any type of thai right?
3- why is she so small, shes 6 ft and only stretched twice her size from veg, i thought sativas triple in size atleast when thrown into flower and were monsters in size. was it something i did to make her this small?
4- for being at 5 weeks, how developed do u think she is? it doesnt look to me like its gonna be a 16 week flowering period.
thanks to everyone here for any insight.
dkmonk
Member
British Hempire made it himself, I think he has some seeds for sale on another site breed b a y , but they are just pure colombian.
There is a thread some place around here were you can find more information about were he got the malawi and the colombian parents.
@ Flynn Hawiian. Hey bro, been a long time. I actually ran into my old grow partner from Pre-katrina and that was one of the first things he mentioned (The Frost). I told him I still saw you on the boards sometimes. Great stuff.
I also am not on the boards that often anymore. I still can't grow out here so I don't hang on IC too often, but I still come on every few weeks and flip through the pages.
Aloha!
I also am not on the boards that often anymore. I still can't grow out here so I don't hang on IC too often, but I still come on every few weeks and flip through the pages.
Aloha!
hardhat22
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Thats my problem...I use a 150hps to grow sativas in home-made soil,Lol. So naturally they are almost completely devoid of flavors as compared to the indoor bred sativa hybrids I've tried. But I keep growing them because I do get the effects that prompted me to save the seed in the first place.
Now,Motaco may or may not agree,but at least in my part of the south-east my boys can still get imports from equatorial regions and maybe even some of the islands. A couple of seeds in a sack is a blessing instead of a bane. American imports are NOT all Mexican. And occasionally my little 150 will deliver quality effects.The closest I've come in comparison to some of the pure sats I've grown would be Sams OSThai/Haze x Sk1 and the Wreck.And a couple of Mandallas landrace hybrids that were butt-ugly but wonderfully sativa dominate.(Odd how a freebie can out-perform the costly)Though,I haven't tried any of Ace's stuff YET.
It took 26 months to put this one through 2 flower cycles.First time I flowered for 10 months,second for 11. I never got to see it FINISH and suspect it wouldn't have. There was no male to make seed with so my special Thunk male got the honor.Now that I'm over my 4 month bout of Sativanoia I'm curious to see how a thai/haze effect will blend with the soaring chrystal clear trip this one produced.I have one in veg and will begin flower cycle later this week maybe.I love foxtails.
Peace
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