Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

[Herbalistic]

Dont worry motaco, I am definitely doing seedpatch from those 12 beans I received. I just grow couple of them first for bud and do my "selections" after I have smoked them. Sounds cool? Because you are definitely among those who are going to receive these beans when they finish.

Could take year or so...

For browser: I must say that im not down because you didnt buy them beans. I have been wanting this swazi strain for a long time, because all the great things I constantly hear about it. 12 beans for 30 $ is not bad, even some of them dont germ, or what you think? Cool to hear that they manage well in northern latitudes, maybe I do some crosses with it and my unknown sativa af

If British Hempire is reading this, he could answer me how old those beans are?

People warned me about Reefermans sale seeds on bay, that they are old stock and all that, but I did buy Asian Girl for 25 or 30 bucks and we put 4 beans to germ and all of them germ, but 3 of them died because friends enviroment was ****ed up and the one that survived was male + very weak looking, so it went to trash...

I think that seedbay stores their beans correctly for longtime, so it doesnt matter so much if the stock is old! But when we are talking aobut gem´s like this one, it´s definitely worth the risk of low germ rates me thinks

 

[moe]

@motaco
a friend of a friend gave this seeds, he didn't know what the strains it must be..
when the strains start to grow and veg it was like indica
but now looks really sativa...
the first bottom leafs are five on a stem and big like indica
and all to the top has 7 leafs and very thin.
i'm very happy to have sativa and indica growing as i love both
i grow in french mountain forest.
this year was so bad, 200 mn of rain by month, the badest year ...we never see before..maybe like nepal weather ?

 

[motaco]

@ herbal lol. thats cool it probaby be a year before I can grow again anyway.

but asia girl was having trouble with older stock? damn. I didn't think that stock was more than about 3 years old.

makes me wanna go put my seed collection in the fridge. I plan on using them within the next couple years so I was more worried about the moisture change and freeze damaging cell walls than the time getting to them. but if they are getting lower germ rates at three years I better get them in the fridge.

@ moe. oh if you're in europe thats probably not a mexican. looks and sounds like one though that is a common mexican trait nowadays. couldn't tell ya buddy sorry. but it looks sativa dominant.

 

[moe]

as seeds travel so easily it is still possible !
how long of harvest for mexican sativa ?
if she's still alive for the harvest we could know more...

 

[Guest]

as seeds travel so easily it is still possible !
how long of harvest for mexican sativa ?
if she's still alive for the harvest we could know more...

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obli

 

[moe]

thank u, i already read it but is was not clear as it was about cycle..
or maybe i'm too tired, it was a big pain to go to my growing spot, the weather and condition is so bad

edit: so maybe 11-15 weeks
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=1209877#post1209877

 

[motaco]

yup most likely.

you say the weather is bad?

 

[Guest]

a quick question for you sativa connoisseurs..

i once met a guy while snowboarding that had some really killer weed that his friend grew. after smoking a joint of it, i knew it was a sativa. it made music incredibly amazing, and made me extremely creative and artistic.
im usually a really technical kind of guy, but suddenly i wanted to draw, and found that i could draw whatever i wanted quite well. it was a very warm, uplifting high that felt very mystical and spiritual almost. there was no paranoia or racy nervous feeling.

i have never smoked anything like that since, and the guy didnt know the strain. what strains of sativas produce this type of clear, paranoia-free but very intense experience?

thanks for any advice

 

[moe]

yup most likely.

you say the weather is bad?

yes, fog, cloud,
and we have three months with 200 mn of rain by month
instead of 60 mn a normal year.
(what strain is good with that?)
and i put soil that keep too much the water (780 ml).
so the plant suffered a lot, with more sun it could like some africa places...
but i think it is most like nepal, with fresh night.
(october will go from 6 degrees celsius in the night to 30 degrees the day).
and climbing, walking is dangerous good for drift and slide on wet rock, it is why not much people go near my spot.

 

[motaco]

@ moe. the sativa strain you have will handle rain probably as good as anything you will buy.

@ island herbs. sounds like alot of properly grown sativas. Just let them finish long enough and don't get thai's, or hazes, most sativas aren't too anxious. Just common seed banks ones.

 

[moe]

@motaco
ok, she' resisted really better than the early misty ..
when the unknown start growing she had large leaf



looks like one of the thai, elevator man grow, start big leaf and finish thin.
maybe i have a rare gold strain

 

[budvapor]

awesome stuff motaco! i've got loads of mexican bagseeds i couldn't bear to throw away... sounds like i'll be growing some looking for some good genes!

 

[Elevator Man]

Speaking of sativa bagseed, I just went out and scored a couple more ounces of the African that's currently available along with the Thai. It's darker and slightly more green from a distance than the Thai, but up-close, there's a LOT more red hairs visible - I'm wondering if this might be Swazi Redbeard or something like that? It's all bud, and no leaf.

It's very stimulating, but like the Thai, no jangly effects, just smooth elevation. Tastes more spicy and sharp than the Thai, which is more fruity/tobacco. But I'd say it's just about as strong, and holds its own with much of the 'skunk' going around at the moment.

Notice the two buds I pulled out - apart from being flat, they're completely intact, almost seedless and they've been manicured. How much brickweed is manicured, eh?

 

[Bob Jones]

Baphomet, you asked for info on the Worlds of Seed Kilimanjaro. I have two of them outdoors this summer, and I can say I'm impressed!

They were the first of my plants to start flowering, around August 1, and are flowering FAST. They're about 8-9' tall and 6' wide with long arms of buds forming up quickly. In the last week or so they've started to get frosty. LOTS and lots of branching. Haven't smoked any yet, but they're very low odor, have to rub the buds to get much of a small (hard to smell anything in the patch, it's getting pretty strong) but now starting to get some resin on them and a nice "spicy" smell, not fruity at all.

Assuming that the result is a good sativa smoke, I'm blown away by the speed of flowering and the earliness of flowering. It has some real breeding potential if the smoke turns out well. I'm going to hit one with an Apollo 11 male, I think it could make a nice hybrid.

I'll try to get some pix up this weekend.

Here's a pic of one from back in June, it's amazing what they look like now.

 

[motaco]

@ elevator man. that is too cool. I never get to see europes version of "schwag" it always amuses me; seen so much of it as a kid but its all from south america ya know. Thats cool the stuff was manicured and full of nugs too. Hopefully that was from one of the better growers in his region.

Ours are pretty much always from mexico. Every now and then some caribbean.

 

[Elevator Man]

Motaco - There's usually good stuff around here if you look hard enough! Wish I could get Mexican. Grass is always greener eh?

My contact does do a 'cheap' variety too, but I don't even look at it - just twigs and smashed seeds as far as I can tell - ugh.

But the fact that there's so few seeds in this stuff suggests they're pulling the males - or most of them anyway. I've been looking hard to see any trace of male pods, but haven't seen anything, so I don't think they're hermies - just probably missed a few down the bottom of the field...

It's pressed lighter than much I've had, so most of the seeds are intact, and look nice and dark. Wish I knew where they were from, as it would give me some idea how big they might get if I popped some...

 

[bonecarver_OG]

elevatorman - it sure looks like the compressed roibart i used to get in brighton a few years back. its definetly southafrican (i mean exported from), and i bet u will get nice plants planting those seeds!

i used to save all seeds i could find of those batches i got over.. lost them on the way..

 

[Guest]

Thanks motaco. I think I will try Serious Seeds Kali Mist. and let it ripen fully.

aloha

 

[motaco]

@ island herbs. Oh I wouldn't do that man. that is mostly the south east asian genetics I was warning you about. I never had KM before but from what I understand its pretty racy, and paranoia inducing.

I'd try a colombian strain perhaps. Maybe something from ACE. Some of the guys from spain in this thread are pretty familiar with their selections they might be able to help you. But something from lower central america or south america is probably much more along your lines; I've found them to be contemplative, not anxious, and not overpowering. perhaps Tikal;I never tried it but ACE says its a guatemalan hybrid with no anxious effects. And people seem to trust that bank around here.

 

[SuperZero]

as far as looking for indoor genes from outdoor like we used to look for outdoor quality. I don't really understand what you meant. I'll need you to run that one by me again. If your asking do I think there is potential to find plants in mexi brick that will perform indoors there no doubt is some. some won't, and some ain't that potent to begin with but some will be fine indoors. about them only shipping lower quality, its a lil different than that. they are shipping everything they are growing really, best of the best included. no doubt they will snag some for personal but most of it especially the good stuff is getting sold. its just that the harvesting and shipping process really degrades it very quickly. I've heard from several mexican travelers that alot of mexican cities is full of really LOW quality schwag. because anything worth $$$ is shipped to where people have the $ to pay it. and they sell the shitty bunk weed to locals who are dirt poor. because if it was worth anything they'd sell it. but I'm sure that scenario depends on the economics of the area a good bit.

but growing any schwag beans is a REAL crapshoot. there are definitely unique winners to be found, but there are alot of losers too. the main thing is the beans are plentiful and free so for people that have space to hunt for something cool time will usually deliver.

Sorry to jump around, but I wanted to comment on this, as I'm giving some a go.

I got a real nice batch from the same supplier(comes up from Ariz.) and just wanted to show some pics of the bud I saved some seeds from.

For any in doubt, I'm using the bud on the left.




Good luck to anyone hunting for gold in the dirt!