Real Skunk Wanted

[Lime Green]

I'm still working with the Uncle Fester's Skunk #18 IBL. I have not flowered any out, but am at day 23 of 12-12 with a skunky little male (stem rub) with the following females.

Uncle Fester's Skunk #18 IBL
The White
Mendoza Purps
Gorilla Glue #4
Mr. Nice
Green Crack
Black Lime Reserve
1983 (Landrace/heirloom from 80's seed. Pure Sativa, sandalwood/Thai pheno, 14 week finisher.
1984 (Indica Sativa hybrid from 80's seed. Very similar to current Skunk #1, and Pineapple strains)

They weren't ready yet, but I will also run this or another male from the Uncle Fester's over an original Acapulco Gold, Afghanii, and Chem 4 as well in the near future. Looking for the real deal I smoked in Southern California in the 80' straight from Humboldt.

 

[Lime Green]

You will notice very little Amsterdam influence in that list BTW. I see people saying "go back to landraces, and recreate it." Others say "Pheno hunt Skunk #1 genetics".

Personally, the logical approach is pre Amsterdam genetics. Avail of what work was done before it changed, with staggering volume grows.

Pedigrees mean nothing if rigorous selection went another direction. I have a family of dogs, 26 year closed genetic breeding project. For simplicity sake, they are 70% red, and 30% black "on paper". In real life,but hey are 85% black. Selection and prepotency will bury, or totally discard certain traits.

 

[Cheesegez]

See the thing is the psychosis is very very cheese dom so blanks out other things , the bo is so fruity deep oily skunk by far the strongest smelling thing I have even more so than the pineapple , the pineapple is heavy sk1 dom , I've just feminised the two together seeds be ready for me to test in about 4 t 5 weeks I honestly can't wait and my agent orange X pineapple I'm looking for proper old school orange skunk deep lingering orange not the bitter orange peel that the agent o has and passes to lots of strains , I made one years ago called special ops was agent orange pynamite shiva was so spot on for orange skunk but lost the seeds ,
I really remember the whole sensi catalogue like it was yesterday I'm bringing the classics back best I can , concentrating on strong terps like lemon,pine,orange,skunk,and sativa haze oil spice hybrids , to much generic tasting poor yielding stuff around now days IMO it's all the same

Speaking of orange


There's wreek of orange , it's orange haze from gdg orange bud x skunk at 7/12 weeks can't wait man .. Orange skunk I feel ya bro

 

[corky1968]

You will notice very little Amsterdam influence in that list BTW. I see people saying "go back to landraces, and recreate it." Others say "Pheno hunt Skunk #1 genetics".

Personally, the logical approach is pre Amsterdam genetics. Avail of what work was done before it changed, with staggering volume grows.

Pedigrees mean nothing if rigorous selection went another direction. I have a family of dogs, 26 year closed genetic breeding project. For simplicity sake, they are 70% red, and 30% black "on paper". In real life,but hey are 85% black. Selection and prepotency will bury, or totally discard certain traits.

I did mention Landraces because as we both know and by what you say
also in the reference to your dogs. That once the selection goes too far
one way that you can't go back to the original pedigree.

As for Pre-Amsterdam Genetics I wouldn't even know where to start.
Are those seeds available somewhere online? I'm sure others here would
like to know as well.

 

[Lime Green]

Corky,

I don't discount landraces, as you will see in my 83, Acapulco Gold, and Afghani. Everyone seems to agree, that Columbian Gold played virtually no influence in the distinc terpene profile we seek. So, I haven't bothered with it, but you see the other 2 in my stable as well as the treasure that is 1983, just to cover those landrace bases. I don't expect that's where I will find it, unless this Uncle Fester's is prepotent in producing it with regularity. Buy if I find it here, it will be well worth having done.

I rather expect the next generation of the IBL, or my 1984 to have the best shot. I think my 1984 is an original Sativa leaning "sweet" Skunk like the current, or a close relative. But it's well before Amsterdam, so it has great potential to produce, only to be enhanced by the Uncle Fester's Skunk #18 IBL male.

I would also not rule out The White, Black Lime Reserve, or tge Gorilla Glue #4, due to the heavy Chem Influence.

Green Crack? Maybe, she's reasonably close in overall type to the current Skunk #1.

Mendo Purps? Well, back in the day, we had a black ass purple pheno, frosty as hell, that had the same smell and high. Mendo Purps definitely has the same stubborn, leafy, growth structure as all of my Uncle Fester's Skunk #18's. Once upon a time, purple was Skunky too, I so testify. So, I went to an old purple.

Mr. Nice. Need I say more? Pure Indica/Afghanica, with a splash of NL5. On its own, this is a really sweet, syrupy flower, like a Big Stick popsickle, or Escalonia bush. But, it has old genetics that may click with the #18 IBL.

I'm glad so many people are pursuing this. There are many approaches, none or right or wrong. Some are more of a gamble. I am getting older, don't have time to waste. Given what I know about breeding l, (plenty), this is my best shot. I will say I discarded twice as many strains before I selected these to bred with in my efforts to resurrect a true Skunk. These gave me the most hope. There are others I would l, and will try if these don't do it. I am most excited by a #18 plant in veg that is a stinker above all others.

 

[Lime Green]

In addition, I'm also holding a locally bred inbred Diesel cut that shows great promise. I can't wait to see what the Uncle Fester's will do with this one as well. It has given notes, and has the look.

 

[Lime Green]

How ridiculous is it, to be almost 50, live in a legal, medical state that is renowned for the best cannabis in the world, and the best strain ever encountered was over 32 years ago. And no, it's not delusion, or nostalgia. When I find it, I'll know it.

 

[Ganja baba]

Corky,

I don't discount landraces, as you will see in my 83, Acapulco Gold, and Afghani. Everyone seems to agree, that Columbian Gold played virtually no influence in the distinc terpene profile we seek. So, I haven't bothered with it, but you see the other 2 in my stable as well as the treasure that is 1983, just to cover those landrace bases. I don't expect that's where I will find it, unless this Uncle Fester's is prepotent in producing it with regularity. Buy if I find it here, it will be well worth having done.

I rather expect the next generation of the IBL, or my 1984 to have the best shot. I think my 1984 is an original Sativa leaning "sweet" Skunk like the current, or a close relative. But it's well before Amsterdam, so it has great potential to produce, only to be enhanced by the Uncle Fester's Skunk #18 IBL male.

I would also not rule out The White, Black Lime Reserve, or tge Gorilla Glue #4, due to the heavy Chem Influence.

Green Crack? Maybe, she's reasonably close in overall type to the current Skunk #1.

Mendo Purps? Well, back in the day, we had a black ass purple pheno, frosty as hell, that had the same smell and high. Mendo Purps definitely has the same stubborn, leafy, growth structure as all of my Uncle Fester's Skunk #18's. Once upon a time, purple was Skunky too, I so testify. So, I went to an old purple.

Mr. Nice. Need I say more? Pure Indica/Afghanica, with a splash of NL5. On its own, this is a really sweet, syrupy flower, like a Big Stick popsickle, or Escalonia bush. But, it has old genetics that may click with the #18 IBL.

I'm glad so many people are pursuing this. There are many approaches, none or right or wrong. Some are more of a gamble. I am getting older, don't have time to waste. Given what I know about breeding l, (plenty), this is my best shot. I will say I discarded twice as many strains before I selected these to bred with in my efforts to resurrect a true Skunk. These gave me the most hope. There are others I would l, and will try if these don't do it. I am most excited by a #18 plant in veg that is a stinker above all others.

Mate I love your passion for this , I got the bug too I all ways wanted to recreate skunk from the base up like you are doing , in my opinion the issue is the afghan , sensi never had so they used another and came up with super skunk , I'm miss the old days , shiva skunk was amazing totally wiped out c99 which is a poor relative , if I get my 1984 to 1989 secret sativa seed club seeds to pop I will sure donate you some skunk genes I have sk1 , haze and sk1 X haze , original seed comp seeds .
And you are right most of the strains now are skunks and just phenos of them diesels , chems , loads of them are skunk afghan hybrids ,
I see lots of recieve traits in the modern stuff when cross back to old stuff chuck our some classic skunk traits , supers , northern sk types ,
Even bubba kush with its distinktive lead colour and shape looks just like afghan xs from years ago just its a special type pheno, I also have sk1 from 1986 and Friesland from 1986 seeds to pop which were given to me by the dampkring coffee shop plus many more including 1974 old ed seeds that's going way back lol who knows what to expect from them if the pop ,
Columbian gold must have played a part in it more than you may think , I'm saying that because my friend made pablos cheese using hot house flowers which may be the ace line of the Columbian and when we grew out the seeds I was so shocked the cheese unlocked recessive traits in the Columbian it was like it should be super super Columbian tasty with all the hues I remembered smoking when I was younger total exotic flavours full steam power house . So I would say the Columbian genes are present in the sk1 and may be would go the other way and unlock some genes if crossed to sk1 then back and forth to afghan .

 

[Ganja baba]

How ridiculous is it, to be almost 50, live in a legal, medical state that is renowned for the best cannabis in the world, and the best strain ever encountered was over 32 years ago. And no, it's not delusion, or nostalgia. When I find it, I'll know it.

Totally agree , the problem is bottle necked genes , most of all the stuff aviliable now comes from a small amount of all ready 5 gen seeds , sensi took over from sssc and what they had was given to them mostly , so they probably started with later generation stock , most of the Dutch comps hacked each other just like most seed comps do now , example is every one is crossing chems , kush and diesels into each other and at the moment that is the craze , it's super inbreeding never seen before on this scale , so would have been similar back then , the bottle necking phenomenon is a large scale issue , I use land races to bring out recessive traits even to my old 1980s skunk lines so even those can bring out amazing older flavours I'm not so accustomed to when crossed out to say pure lemon Thai .
Old mixed with new seems a really good route
,
Apart from flavours and other traits modern weed has , unless we have been lucky enough to to have smoked pure drug type sativas back in the day , pure Mexicans , columbians , Thais so on , I can honestly say any one reading this that havnt tried these types of weed , you have no idea what fucking increable means ,
Real sativa cultivars yes bag appeal is subject to ones own preference , lol it would not pass most up to date smokers ,sativas have so many complexed highs it's unreal ,
Ie , soaring high like you honestly have just taken a line of Coke and some speed at the same time , relaxed with day dreams it's unreal , looking outside of your window and the sun and shadows remind you of a cult movie you just can't remember the name , the feeling you are walking on sponge or you some how have yo yos for legs like mr soft ,
Feeling hungry , horny and creative all at the same time , actually laughing for hours and evey new joint makes you laugh more , so dam social you didn't need to be a member of any social club it was a club and every felt invited smoking that kind of herb .
So when we all go nuts for gg4 or this kush and that kush extracts of pure this and that , in my opinion that is nothing compared to what will come when others realise there is so much more to cannabis , I believe once this kush craze is over the sativa craze will be back and with all the leagal states I'm sure some will head down this direction .
Also live hash is that last bastion , we have every thing now but what we don't have is a way of recreating hand rubbed hash , which is the best ,like high grade scissor hash all the deep flavour of hash but all the scent of the flowers it came from ,
Now you don't see gg4 hand rubbed hash any where for sale point me in the right direction if any one knows of hand rubbed modern strains lol

 

[Manivelle]

i would know if the old days rks was grown indoor or outdoor ? cause if your searching for something identical growing may be a problem IMO .

 

[corky1968]

Columbian gold must have played a part in it more than you may think

I happy to finally hear somebody else say this.

The following text in quotes was taken from an online article entitled
The Origins of Blueberry, by DJ Short.

"It has been my observation that in a successful cross, the (usually female)
sativa contributes the type of aroma and flavour, while the (usually male)
indica contributes the amount of aroma and flavour to the prodigy. So far
this observation has proven fruitful."

Here's the link to that entire article:

On the origins of Blueberry

So I, Corky1968 after reading that entire article now suspects that if this is true
in regards to the Original Skunk as well. Then it's could be that the Colombian Gold
and/or the Acapulco Gold or more likely their mixing that gave the majority type of
smell. Since they are both sativas. But it's the Afghani that gave the Skunk's overall
intensity of the smell. But in the end it's the total blending of the sativa(s) and indica
that creates the real magical smell of both the Blueberry and Original Skunk.

I know for a fact that pure sativas don't smell as strong as pure indicas.
I've grown a dozen landrace sativas with no odor control before. I would
never try this with a landrace Indica though.

Anyways, I hope my Colombian Gold seeds get shipped to me soon.

 

[Lime Green]

Ganja Baba,

Thanks, there's definitely passion and a plan. How round 1 fares is anyone's guess. Truthfully, if the Uncle Fester's is what it is supposed to be, the F1 crosses wouldn't be necessary. With that said, I pretty much hate everything about growing the IBL, so I definitely seek improved structure and grow ability through the crosses.

Columbian may have played a role, but since I couldn't source one locally with any immediacy, it would be on the list to try later if all else fails.

I totally agree with the refresher gene premise, through not only Sativas, but the whole pre-Dam, California based genetics that helped those early breeders succeed. But my 1983 Sandalwood/Thai Sativa with the 5 hour stone is a Sativa cross that has me excited.

Interesting concepts from DJ Corky, thanks for sharing, and also for making this thread.

Manivelle, in California, the RKS was predominantly sungrown.

 

[Lime Green]

I shared this on the now defunct RKS thread, but for the sake of those that did see it, and have no info on the Uncle Fester's Skunk #18 IBL. I just stumbled onto these seeds, and am very hopeful.


Join Date: Sep 2015
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I found this Skunky tale looking for grows with the same Skunk #18 I am currently starting. (Edited so as not to be a free advertisement).

Ok everyone gather around, I want to tell you a story... just pulled the "GDP" off the lines, boxed it up and now I'm starting to trim it. I have suspected for a long time that it was not a GDP and I knew as soon as strectch hit that it wasn't my cut of GDP I grew last year (the grapey purple cut) and as soon as week 6 hit and no grape smells at all and smaller long colas then what I was used to, I was fairly certain it was not GDP. Now that it's done and I'm trimming it and I'm up close and personal with it I am 100% sure it's not GDP.*

It smells like a skunks asshole I mean eye watering, I could remove paint with that smell, the buds are a light green with firey orange hairs. The smoke tastes sweet like a sour hard candy with a nice sweetness, little hints of skunky musk and fruits. Potent as fuck too leaves me stoned staring into space.

I'm 98% sure it's skunk #1. I called the club I got this years "GDP" cuts from, I asked them about the cuts they get and where they get them and they said it's from a guy calls himself MT. I found the link to where to get clones from and it took me to his collective he runs in south Lake Tahoe that had a huge list of clones from MT nurseries and on the list was "Uncle Fester's skunk #1". I sent him mail to ask him about my plant and sent him pics to verify, got an email back saying ya that's its uncle festers skunk #1 and that I quote now "god damn that's a big girl".*

I was sad at first that this massive plant I grew was not GDP, but upon my research and finding out what it really is I'm even more excited. It's a very enjoyable smoke, old school, reminds me of the really good weed I'd get back when I first started smoking. Dates back to 1964 and the Hells Angels and one of the members "Uncle Fester" gave the cut to MT and he has back crossed it to get seed and stabilize. The cut I have is not the 1964, but a modern IBL seed version choice fresh cut choosen by To be as good a rep of the original as it can be.*

 

[Lime Green]

Duplicate

 

[Useful Idiot]

Ganja Baba,



Columbian may have played a role, but since I couldn't source one locally with any immediacy, it would be on the list to try later if all else fails.



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Hmmmmm....I received some seeds from a friend last year labeled "Punta Rojo x Afghan f2". I didn't get around to popping them. This year he sent me cuts from a gal he found from some that he popped. His warning was please!!! make sure your smell defense/carbon filters ect are in proper working order, you are going to need it. She smells of pure skunk with a touch of rotten cherries or something. Also no plastic bags can contain the skunk funk....glass jars ONLY!!


Obviously I was, and still am excited. These un rooted cuts stink for sure...he sent them in one of those stinksack bags bags with the lil skunk on it...pretty fitting.

 

[Mystic Funk]

I shared this on the now defunct RKS thread, but for the sake of those that did see it, and have no info on the Uncle Fester's Skunk #18 IBL. I just stumbled onto these seeds, and am very hopeful.


Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Somewhere In Time
Posts: 48
Lime Green will become famous soon enoughLime Green will become famous soon enough
I found this Skunky tale looking for grows with the same Skunk #18 I am currently starting. (Edited so as not to be a free advertisement).

Ok everyone gather around, I want to tell you a story... just pulled the "GDP" off the lines, boxed it up and now I'm starting to trim it. I have suspected for a long time that it was not a GDP and I knew as soon as strectch hit that it wasn't my cut of GDP I grew last year (the grapey purple cut) and as soon as week 6 hit and no grape smells at all and smaller long colas then what I was used to, I was fairly certain it was not GDP. Now that it's done and I'm trimming it and I'm up close and personal with it I am 100% sure it's not GDP.*

It smells like a skunks asshole I mean eye watering, I could remove paint with that smell, the buds are a light green with firey orange hairs. The smoke tastes sweet like a sour hard candy with a nice sweetness, little hints of skunky musk and fruits. Potent as fuck too leaves me stoned staring into space.

I'm 98% sure it's skunk #1. I called the club I got this years "GDP" cuts from, I asked them about the cuts they get and where they get them and they said it's from a guy calls himself MT. I found the link to where to get clones from and it took me to his collective he runs in south Lake Tahoe that had a huge list of clones from MT nurseries and on the list was "Uncle Fester's skunk #1". I sent him mail to ask him about my plant and sent him pics to verify, got an email back saying ya that's its uncle festers skunk #1 and that I quote now "god damn that's a big girl".*

I was sad at first that this massive plant I grew was not GDP, but upon my research and finding out what it really is I'm even more excited. It's a very enjoyable smoke, old school, reminds me of the really good weed I'd get back when I first started smoking. Dates back to 1964 and the Hells Angels and one of the members "Uncle Fester" gave the cut to MT and he has back crossed it to get seed and stabilize. The cut I have is not the 1964, but a modern IBL seed version choice fresh cut choosen by To be as good a rep of the original as it can be.*

let's see those pics.




peace!
-mystic

 

[Erliqin]

Wappa from Paradise the great skunk 2016

 

[Lime Green]

Mystic,

That report was the only grow log I could find online, it's not my report, just a repost. Encouraging nonetheless. I will try to photograph some of the ones I'm growing though and get them in here.

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

I just got a grip of Mex brick seeds. Will be sifting thru them to see what I an find. Hoping to find some stinky palnts to work into other cultivars I already have that carry the skunk smell( Corey Stardawg, GG#4, Garlic Breath, Deadhead OG) . You can bet your ass if I come across anything I think fit's the "skunks ass" bill, I won't be hoarding it. Second, third, forth, etc. opinions are going to be needed.

 

[Mystic Funk]

I just got a grip of Mex brick seeds. Will be sifting thru them to see what I an find. Hoping to find some stinky palnts to work into other cultivars I already have that carry the skunk smell( Corey Stardawg, GG#4, Garlic Breath, Deadhead OG) . You can bet your ass if I come across anything I think fit's the "skunks ass" bill, I won't be hoarding it. Second, third, forth, etc. opinions are going to be needed.

you won't believe what you'll find in there!
In resent mex seeds I have found everything from strawberry leaf indicas, to Thai looking plants, pin leaf sativas, and everything in between!
there was some skunky one's in there... but mostly spicy and sweet...


on the other hand it's so sad to see so many Mexican landrace variety's crossed with genetics from around the globe...


Mexican variety's are so polluted now....


-mystic