Real Skunk Wanted

[Lester Beans]

There is a small thread about road kill skunk, I'm sure if you look hard you can find it.

This conversation has become exhausting even for me.

Best of luck in your search!

 

[jedi5891]

I'm glad to see that people still are into Real Skunks.

BTW: jedi5891, that first plant you posted. Was it given a shower?

I too take my plants in the shower sometimes for a nice shower.
I only do that in vegetative growth. All it takes is a 15 seconds
lukewarm light spray and they seem so alive and clean.

Even regular house plants like showers if they can't get rain.

No just flushing her out. I like to flush with x3 volume of pot throughout the grow and my buds taste tops for it.

 

[corky1968]

Bathtubs are good for that too.

 

[rykus]

Cannabis breeders are funny folk,lol...

Any plant that expresses the desired trait needs to be proven out to determine how the trait is passed, using selfing is an ideal tool as was mentioned and it should honestly not be as hard as people make it to select a offspring from the selfed or filial generation that will pass the traits in a controlled fashion.

Yes having thousands of plants is great for selecting visual traits, but it takes some real work with fewer plants to prove how the desirable traits are inherited.... This important step seems to be lost to some, because if you just start a thousand more seeds out of your selected female from the first thousand, you may improve in quality, but you still will not have learned how the trait passed or if the second female has more dominance for the trait than the first..

Even the squaring and cubing can be misleading because if the expression is not a dominant gene you could be going further from true breeding the more you Bx and the less you search out dominant and co-dominant traits in the filial generations.

IMO a lot more progress could be made even with a single female really isolating two or three main identifiable traits in the line and trying to find proven dominant/co-dominant offspring and then re cross the two lines back together after a few potential parents are selected...

Real dominant traits should be passed down to almost 100% of offspring, and co-dominant should show on around 50% so theoretically( and in practice in many other types of breeding) at least 25% of a large seed pop should express both traits unless they are located on the same spot of the chain... Then they could provide a new mutation!

Python breeders are crazy! You guys gotta check out their forums, some times they have 4-5 genes all proven out and are making snakes with 1/100 odds with only 6-8 eggs a clutch!

Talk about work and patience! We got it easy, just gotta get smart and quit letting time and bad information claim so many killer varieties!

 

[corky1968]

I agree that having a large population increases the odd of locating that special plant.

The real art is the ability to maintain what you got afterwards that makes you a real breeder.

 

[R.A.W]

Warlock ! Jesus people still don't realise what Geritt did. He did REAL breeding, not just a bx with a multi hybrid outcrosser.

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

Rather than back cross, which is a mythical method for locking down traits, use fillial generations using the stankiest parents you can find.
OR
Self the stinkiest few mothers you find then hit them with some stinky males if you desire regular male/female seeds.

you have to spread more rep around before given to this man again

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

I agree that having a large population increases the odd of locating that special plant.

The real art is the ability to maintain what you got afterwards that makes you a real breeder.

i,ve only just started doing more selection via large numbers . i found if possible to grow out large number of offspring first , take careful observation of early flower then who's the stand outs later at finish . i just found i was,nt noticing the keepers in them until late flower by then was too late to pollinate .

then pop the next round even larger numbers, go find those ones look same in early flower as you saw first round , that ended up being standouts . so all i,m basically saying is know all your pheno types before you head to pollination

i,m just starting to play in the big pool , of more organised pollen chucking . but thats what i like to do .

its still kinda random luck if your hitting the stand outs from a large selection if its your first run with the strain . cause once there seeded you really got not much clue what potential the bud structure has ! fully seeded won't give you an accurate representation of the plants potential outcome .

my logic could be floored . not sure . its just what i,m finding i like to do. though i,m bit of a dinosaur . don't have indoor rooms or i,d be getting those keepers and s1 for myself.

 

[corky1968]

i,ve only just started doing more selection via large numbers . i found if possible to grow out large number of offspring first , take careful observation of early flower then who's the stand outs later at finish . i just found i was,nt noticing the keepers in them until late flower by then was too late to pollinate .

then pop the next round even larger numbers, go find those ones look same in early flower as you saw first round , that ended up being standouts .

i,m just starting to play in the big pool , of more organised pollen chucking . but thats what i like to do .

its still kinda random luck if your hitting the stand outs from a large selection if its your first run with the strain . cause once there seeded you really got not much clue what potential the bud structure has ! fully seeded won't give you an accurate representation of the plants potential outcome .

my logic could be floored . not sure . its just what i,m finding i like to do. though i,m bit of a dinosaur . don't have indoor rooms or i,d be getting those keepers and s1 for myself

It's like you would have to take a clone from each plant before they go
into flower and keep them in bonsai form until you find the good ones.
Once you flower the bigger plants.

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

i guess if your a breeder you would keep hundreds of clones from the first run , have the keeper then for sure . your doing that you may as well do s1 surely .

like said just doing my own thing for me and friends . but not set up for clones . if i was i,d be narrowing down my selection numbers for sure . rather than cutting&rooting hundreds of clones .lol

who knows . i may even head this direction . now i,ve got strains i like playing with.

i,m just on my second run of larger selection f3 . so far the mothers are outstanding fully seeded even , cause i knew exactly who out of the second batch was getting pulled aside . i,m very impressed with them . i,m guessing i,ve stabilised for the traits i like , and still will get slight variation rather than a clone like affect . keeps things interesting.

sorry corky more chatting to you about breeding rather than the topic . i think lester said it , if you want road kill there a thread that will take you 12mths to get through on here . be loaded with info .

 

[corky1968]

i guess if your a breeder you would keep hundreds of clones from the first run , have the keeper then for sure . your doing that you may as well do s1 surely .

like said just doing my own thing for me and friends . but not set up for clones . if i was i,d be narrowing down my selection numbers for sure . rather than cutting&rooting hundreds of clones .lol

who knows . i may even head this direction . now i,ve got strains i like playing with

Cloning is actually the next thing I have to master.

Only had a few lucky breaks out of the hundred or so I've tried in the past.

All I know is making seeds is really addicting.

 

[oldbean]

Has anybody got a packet of 1990's sensi seed bank superskunk?

That's where the best phenos are to be found. Before UK cheese got its name it was just superskunk.

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

Cloning is actually the next thing I have to master.

Only had a few lucky breaks out of the hundred or so I've tried in the past.

All I know is making seeds is really addicting.

i like to f2 the strain i like . that used to be enough , keep me satisfied. now i find i need to pheno hunt them now and then go back through them and seed the standouts . to get myself a f3 line hopefully full of more predictable standouts .

yes its fully additive . but the fun is growing out the offspring

anyway back on topic .

 

[Mystic Funk]

Has anybody got a packet of 1990's sensi seed bank superskunk?

That's where the best phenos are to be found. Before UK cheese got its name it was just superskunk.

I had some mass super skunk beans from the late 1990's and it reeked like skunk. I crossed it with a unknown variety that also smelled like skunk. I still have the cross.....
I have been working off and on it for more then 10 years to stabilize the skunk funk.

 

[jedi5891]

Has anybody got a packet of 1990's sensi seed bank superskunk?

That's where the best phenos are to be found. Before UK cheese got its name it was just superskunk.

Not saying that your wrong, but from my Understanding of the Exodous cheese Cut. The Lads who isolated the plant from Luton UK, did so in the late 80s. Sensi seeds never bought super skunk out until 1990, so the dates don't match. Also Super Skunk stays very short and compact and the cheese has more stretch with thinner leaves. They all say it's skunk#1 sensi seeds.

 

[corky1968]

From what I've read online.

The Uk Cheese was selected from a bunch of Skunk #1 plants and is not from the Superskunk line.

 

[FireIn.TheSky]

IMO we should all just forget about Skunk #1 and focus our attention to blending new varieties to create a new roadkill skunk.

Skunk #1 is not what we want, that's quite clear.

 

[wildgrow]

chasing a true skunk from skunk 1 seed is a waste of time. If it existed someone would have found it by now, the closest thing to pop up as far as a stinky skunk is uk cheese which is cheesy not skunky.

That being said I have a true dead skunk plant, the thing reeks like a skunk it came from a seed I found in one of my plants and as far as I know it has no relation to skunk1.

The problem is it doesn't yield for shit so im going to breed it to chem91/sfvAppalachia which is one of the skunkiness strains I have ever grown and try to make male/female seed from my skunks ass clone.

Hold on to her. And...

I'm thinking that a Chem crossed into a smelly Skunk would yield some repulsive results.

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Good way to go IMO. If you've had a fat joint of GG4 rolled up in your pocket for awhile, youll definitely get a skunky type of smell from it. Must be the Chem gens.

 

[corky1968]

IMO we should all just forget about Skunk #1 and focus our attention to blending new varieties to create a new roadkill skunk.

Skunk #1 is not what we want, that's quite clear.

I agree that we all need to work together to recreate something new by going back to landraces is possible.

 

[corky1968]

Super skunk is SKunk#1 backcrossed with afghani.

I suspect the stinky smells come more from indicas like
afghanis than the Colombian Gold and Mexican used to
create the original Skunk #1.

The closest to Super Skunk that I ever grew was Greenhouse's
Great White Shark in 1999. That one is a cross between made
with Green house's White Widow and the Super SKunk.