Real Skunk Wanted

[jedi5891]

The exodus crew from luton did not isolate and discover the cheese plant. It was one man from Luton who passed it on to the crew.

I read a story many moons ago writen by a man who knew the guy that discovered the cheese pheno, apparently he brought a pack of 10 skunk#1 seeds back from Amsterdam (sensi seeds) 9 plants were okay and one was exceptional, he named this plant Blue Cheese because the smell was violantly pungent. It was later passed onto other growers in the UK and named cheese.

I never said they did isolate it. I said it came from Luton.
Your just repeating what's alread
The man who wrote this information also stated that the cheese pheno can not be found in beans today, this is because in the mid 80s sensi had to sweeten up their skunk#1 beacause so many growers in holland were being busted. It's illegal to grow in Holland with indoor equiptment and these were the days long before carbon filters.

Where did I say that the Exodus crew isolated the plant. Your repeating what I said and already know. It's common knowledge wing comander isolated the plant. We was discussing weather the exodus cheese is super skunk or skunk#1, where it came from is no secret. It's what it's crossed with and it's lineage that's a bit hazey. Yes apparently it came from sensi seeds skunk#1, but 1 plant never stood out to start. Apparently the guy who found it said that one of the plants that he'd been keeping as a mother taking Cutts off for couple of years, seemed to mutate and get stronger and stronger in smell. The cheese name came as it reminded him of some essence his chef friend was making him as an additive to fishing bait ( carp fishing ) which his friend called ( essence of blue cheese )
They'd already sweetened the skunk#1 genetics before Sam brought his stuff to Holland. It's mostly impossible to find the genetics in seed form nowadays due to sensi seeds loosing the original mothers etc
Peace

 

[jedi5891]

Cheese is inferior to psychosis in all aspects, taste, nose, effect...

I've never had the original Brightside cut. I've done BB cheese, green house, green house exodous etc. I did some UGORG #1 next to some psychosis and if anything there wasn't much in it in the smell department, they both absolutely stunk. I've read many others say the complete opposite, that out of all the UK skunk cuts about - Exodous, psychosis, blues, etc that the Brightside is the strongest smelling, but many prefer the effects of the psychosis. For me there is no better/best etc, it's horses for coarses. Each to their own

 

[corky1968]

They'd already sweetened the skunk#1 genetics before Sam brought his stuff to Holland. It's mostly impossible to find the genetics in seed form nowadays due to sensi seeds loosing the original mothers etc

This is why I've said at least 18,000 times before why we have to go back to the drawing board on this one.
Maybe, I said it 14,000 times before? But you get the point. I said it more than 6 times for sure anyways.

BTW: Who is they'd your talking about? I thought Skunkman was the only person who made the Skunk#1.
Are saying somebody else was involved with it before him?

 

[GoatCheese]

I've never had the original Brightside cut. I've done BB cheese, green house, green house exodous etc. I did some UGORG #1 next to some psychosis and if anything there wasn't much in it in the smell department, they both absolutely stunk. I've read many others say the complete opposite, that out of all the UK skunk cuts about - Exodous, psychosis, blues, etc that the Brightside is the strongest smelling, but many prefer the effects of the psychosis. For me there is no better/best etc, it's horses for coarses. Each to their own

hey..


I haven't grown the UK Cheese clone, but i have smoked the bud in Amsterdam few times. Haven't grown Big Buddha's Cheese either, but the one time i have smoked it in Amsterdam, i wasn't very impressed with the aroma nor the effect (..prolly cuz of the extra Afghani in it), but maybe it was a bad pheno. ..aroma was cheese-like, yes, but quite abit weaker than the real deal.Effect was more dull than UK Cheese.


Imo, UK Cheese expresses itself better in "f1-crosses" than in "selfed seeds" like Greenhouse's Exodus Cheese. The ten GHS Exodus Cheeses i grew weren't very close to the original, and there were many phenos that share some traits, some short some taller. But sure there are nice skunky plants in those seeds and strange aromas (skunky nutty tones, liquorice/anisette flowery, some red wine-like + dried flowers).
Somewhat sweeter-and berry/fruitier line than the mother Cheese. But still not very close to the original atleast not mine, judging by aromas, dried bud and photos of the original Cheese mom, that is.


I get much better UK Cheese smells/aromas from many of the CheeseBerry (UK Cheese x Blueberry) and ChunkyCheese (UK Cheese x Deep Chunk) plants i've grown than from the GHS Exodus.
Blueberry works really well with the UK Cheese aroma and the effects of the plants complement each other very well also, thou BB makes this Cheese-hybrid abit more stoney. Eskobar made the Cheeseberry but it's prolly now put off stock. Killer plants. If you see Eskobar making more, get some asap.


But i'm also a big fan of the ChunkyCheese by Cannacopia

 

[jedi5891]

This is why I've said at least 18,000 times before why we have to go back to the drawing board on this one.
Maybe, I said it 14,000 times before? But you get the point. I said it more than 6 times for sure anyways.

BTW: Who is they'd your talking about? I thought Skunkman was the only person who made the Skunk#1.
Are saying somebody else was involved with it before him?

Thats what I'm saying, theye'd as in Sam the Skunkman, as I was talking about him, already worked on sweeter lines before he brought them to Europe. Sorry never explained myself properly.
Peace

 

[GoatCheese]

Thats what I'm saying, theye'd as in Sam the Skunkman, as I was talking about him, already worked on sweeter lines before he brought them to Europe. Sorry never explained myself properly.
Peace

I think Sensi Seeds' Skunks came from Nevil, who got his seeds from Sam and maybe these seeds weren't so worked as the sweet Skunk #1 we know

 

[GoatCheese]

Would that have been a cross with his special Mazari by any chance?

Hey..
Mazari crossed to what?! The Skunks Nevil had? Shanti's Skunks might have come from Nevil and some say few Mr Nice Seeds' Skunk-strains are some what stinky, like the Devil and Shit ..or is it Nordle nowadays


Nevil's Maple Leaf mazaris were crossed to a skunk(s) to make atleast Sensi's Super Skunk and Maple Leaf Indica, which is 25% skunk#1.
Nevil also said MrNice's Afghan/Skunk has Maple Leaf in it ..guess it's the Nordle.


That's all i know

 

[Sensi Smoke]

Where did I say that the Exodus crew isolated the plant. Your repeating what I said and already know. It's common knowledge wing comander isolated the plant. We was discussing weather the exodus cheese is super skunk or skunk#1, where it came from is no secret. It's what it's crossed with and it's lineage that's a bit hazey. Yes apparently it came from sensi seeds skunk#1, but 1 plant never stood out to start. Apparently the guy who found it said that one of the plants that he'd been keeping as a mother taking Cutts off for couple of years, seemed to mutate and get stronger and stronger in smell. The cheese name came as it reminded him of some essence his chef friend was making him as an additive to fishing bait ( carp fishing ) which his friend called ( essence of blue cheese )
They'd already sweetened the skunk#1 genetics before Sam brought his stuff to Holland. It's mostly impossible to find the genetics in seed form nowadays due to sensi seeds loosing the original mothers etc
Peace

It looks like you obtained your information from the exact same place I did, except you actually remember the story better than me. As I stated above, It was many years ago when I read that story. And I actually rember the part about the fishing bait, but forgot the "essence of blue cheese" I just remembered blue cheese.

Sorry for repeating what you have but to be honest I did not read through the entirety of the comments.

 

[Sensi Smoke]

Cheese is inferior to psychosis in all aspects, taste, nose, effect...

I do not know if I have ever smoked true psychosis or cheese. People say it's this, it's that, but 99% of the time it is just a seed from a seed bank grown out and clones passed on.

Cheese is most definitely inferior in strength to other plants that I like to grow. Yeas it's a loud strain, but my Kush's always turn out just as loud. A small bag of cheese can stink the house out, but so does my kush...the only difference is the terpene mixture, not the actual loudness of the terpenes.

Kush knocks cheese out of the park any day of the week, in my opinion.

 

[Goyakla]

Man...how Many stories is out there..This thread looks like TLOTR.

 

[FireIn.TheSky]

Man...how Many stories is out there..This thread looks like TLOTR.

It's just like the other thread, hundreds of pages filled with rehashed fairy tales and still no closer to any form of truth or proof.

 

[corky1968]

It's just like the other thread, hundreds of pages filled with rehashed fairy tales and still no closer to any form of truth or proof.

Hold on now,

I'm just waiting to finish up my current Sativa grow before starting the Quest for the RKS.

I have some Colombian Gold seeds relaxing in my fridge now and just need two more plant
types. Just need the Acapulco Gold and a special Afghani to get going. This special Afghani
is getting purchased in the next week if all goes according to plan.

So yeah at least one of us is ready to jump into the Volcano.

 

[corky1968]

I will be referring to my Skunk as WetDog#1

WetDog#1

Mine will be the Canadian Mink #1.

 

[Jericho Mile]

It's just like the other thread, hundreds of pages filled with rehashed fairy tales and still no closer to any form of truth or proof.

Agree. This thread added the extra twist though....they believe they are going to reinvent the wheel. It won't be Skunk of course...but it'll have a skunk aroma...to which I say:

there is already plenty of skunk smelling expressions out there presently...and since they are not really creating the Skunk recipe...it makes no sense. It's...actually...pointless and redundant.

...or again....am I missing something?

Though I can point this out.....

it'll take another 300 pages of nonsense before this thread gets binned. Just like the other one.

* this thread has not brought one single thing to the table...that...the other thread did not.

well....it's not serious but it's funny

 

[corky1968]

At least, I won't be crying on a fence wishing what ifs for the rest of my life.
I'd rather try to do something than just hope somebody else does it for me.

What's available now is too diluted IMO. The pure RKS phenotype was mostly
lost before today's Skunk #1 was even released in the early 80's. Skunkman
said it many times before he had no intention on breeding the skunky side of
things and chose go the sweet version instead.

The pedigree of the Original Skunks is listed online. So why are people so
scared to even try? Then again maybe it's because most people are not
capable of growing a long flowering Sativa like the Colombian Gold?

The worse that could happen is that a person would cross a pure Sativa
with an Indica plant and end up with something original. Easily the majority
of the best Cannabis Cup winning strains out there are just that hybrids
from the those two major Cannabis sub-species.

At least, I'll have fun finally growing the Colombian Gold and adding it to my Genetic Library.



Here's a quote from movie Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man (1991).

It's better to be dead and cool, than alive and uncool.

 

[Avinash.miles]

it'll take another 300 pages of nonsense before this thread gets binned. Just like the other one.

* this thread has not brought one single thing to the table...that...the other thread did not.

well....it's not serious but it's funny

just to clarify, the old thread got binned because of it's size, alot of BIG LONG threads were closed to remove burden on the server around the same time, "nonsense" or not. the old thread was NOT closed as a way to stop the conversation from happening, so it's ok if that conversation happens here, when this (or any other) thread gets hundreds of pages long, expect it to eventually get closed.


as far as peeps trying to "reinvent the wheel" - why not let them try, free of ridicule? you never know, something good may come of it

and if there were truly "Plenty" of skunk smelling expressions currently out there, perhaps the demand for a REAL skunk smelling strain would not be so high? i've been unable to find any TRUE skunk smelling expressions that compared to the real deal (last seen/smoked by myself personally sometime around 2004 in the SE USA).

 

[MJPassion]

I've been seeing a lot of dead skunks on the highway lately...

Ohhh that smell...
Can't ya smell that smell?

 

[Jericho Mile]

just to clarify, the old thread got binned because of it's size, alot of BIG LONG threads were closed to remove burden on the server around the same time, "nonsense" or not. the old thread was NOT closed as a way to stop the conversation from happening, so it's ok if that conversation happens here, when this (or any other) thread gets hundreds of pages long, expect it to eventually get closed.


as far as peeps trying to "reinvent the wheel" - why not let them try, free of ridicule? you never know, something good may come of it

and if there were truly "Plenty" of skunk smelling expressions currently out there, perhaps the demand for a REAL skunk smelling strain would not be so high? i've been unable to find any TRUE skunk smelling expressions that compared to the real deal (last seen/smoked by myself personally sometime around 2004 in the SE USA).

....ok...as you were...keep at it....

but I already know how it ends.

Read the last post in the other thread....also note how much got deleted out of the thread.

it ran for years and years ...vast amounts of bullshit and arguing

REAL....REAL DEAL...TRUE.....

I'm not ridiculing anyone or anything. I am being objective.

* are you telling me, dude...nobody out there...besides myself...has a skunky aroma clone they keep? They are not difficult to find...or even rare. They might not be the actual Skunk line...but nobody here seems to really care about that. If it's just a skunky aroma..then yeah they are out there. A mix of Original Flo washed over twice with Chem DD....got me there.

** Skunky Skunks have been blown out of proportion....and that's a fact. It wasn't the greatest herb of all time....and it wasn't sativa dominant either. I remember the flowers....all the way through the 80's. Then other things came about...making it less popular. Nostalgia gets in the way of reality. What was old is new again.

*** I also remember all the "golden" import of the era...and remember nobody cried when it was replaced with local green sacks. Now...of course...people want the gold import all over again. It never fails to amaze me how the human condition is never satisfied with what is.

that's what's funny

 

[Dropped Cat]

I take the low key approach, pretty sure a skunk line will
be had. Doesn't matter to me me, pass or fail, I know there
are genetics currently in play that will bear out.

Folks want skunk, and so do I.

We'll see.

 

[FireIn.TheSky]

Hold on now,

I'm just waiting to finish up my current Sativa grow before starting the Quest for the RKS.

I have some Colombian Gold seeds relaxing in my fridge now and just need two more plant
types. Just need the Acapulco Gold and a special Afghani to get going. This special Afghani
is getting purchased in the next week if all goes according to plan.

So yeah at least one of us is ready to jump into the Volcano.



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By fairy tale I mean I dont believe skunk #1 was ever skunk.

Take a look at the old seed catalogs from the time skunk #1 was created, it was listed as a sweet strain since day one.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree, you can't recreate what never was. IMO I think what ever the skunky strain was, it was some sort of mexican, most people report finding that sort of terpene in mexican import.