Damn dude 3.5 for sensi seeds.....got some jack flash #5 on the way...are these any good now or did this strain fizzle out(were parents lost to make this?).
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Damn dude 3.5 for sensi seeds.....got some jack flash #5 on the way...are these any good now or did this strain fizzle out(were parents lost to make this?).
dont know i didnt grow that specifically 
also this list is based over a decade of different grows, things change and at different times i would have probably given them all different scores,, at one point i would have given sensi 7/10,, but they seemed to go down hill about 5 years ago..
also this list is based over a decade of different grows, things change and at different times i would have probably given them all different scores,, at one point i would have given sensi 7/10,, but they seemed to go down hill about 5 years ago..
Botanically speaking only the most sophisticated plants are able to produce seeds these are called spermatophyte sperma meaning seed, and phyton meaning plant.
“Seeds are not a static phase in a plants life, energy is still released through respiration".
"It is a fertile and ripened ovule that contains an embryonic plant".
"Some seeds are naked without a protective tissue; these are the Gymnosperms while other flowering plants have seeds with an integument or case to protect it from drying out".
"These are the angiosperms”
The need for seed gene banks increases along with silly uneducated efforts to preserve superior gene types.
With the constant production of new agricultural cultivars being more widespread many people now collect seeds for a variety of different reasons.
Whatever the reason seed is collected, seed longevity is of practical importance for the survival of agriculture.
While some seeds able to survive in a dormant state for hundreds of years, others can lose total viability in less than 5 years. Almost nothing is known about the mechanisms that determine the longevity of seeds.
If these mechanisms could be understood, we might someday be able to greatly increase the seed longevity of agriculturally important species and varieties, thereby enhancing our ability to preserve plant genetic resources for generations. What we must do is insure proper storage of seeds.
Mature seeds remain viable longer than immature*seeds and seed vigour usually decreases with time in storage, an exception is Elm / Ulmus seeds in which the embryo must develop or mature before they are ready to germinate.
Seeds are a key input in crop production. All cultural practices are designed to exploit the full genetic potential of the seed sown. No agricultural practice of tillage, cultivation, weeding, fertigation, pest control, etc can improve a crop beyond the limit set by the seed planted.
The best way to guarantee that the seed you plant will grow well in you location is to buy seed with a known provenance or collect seeds from the local environment yourself from as natural stand of plants as possible.
Seed kept for planting the next season is usually stored in poor conditions exposed to high temperature, pests and diseases resulting in poor germination and low plant populations in subsequent generations including weak plants that cannot compete well with weeds.
The crop may be poorer than the yield potential of the seed planted, it cannot be better.
Seeds are, therefore, the baseline for success or failure in crop production.
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By the way no growers on here have anywhere near the skill or space and money to buy and grow out all the seed amounts needed to test such accusations about such genetic variance.
Have you all got Phd's in cannabis or genetics??....No....
Yet there are some in-valid accounts showing peoples lack of knowledge, bringing ignorance with arrogance and a certain level of stupidity with low levels of maturity towards some of the best seed company’s out there. These in-valid accounts show people growing to their full potential under Hps not to the seeds full potential.
These people are still talking about something they dream of doing!!
They have never grown out enough seeds from the Original seed banks every seed harvest ever to give science a fair chance to prove lineage performance and phenotype ratio's. And then seasonality test it to.
All the rumours are just that rumours " like Gregory Isaccs said" ......Rumours Gwan
You have week knowledge about genetics if you think f2's are the same as f1's and worse knowledge about plant science.
All you guys inbreeding the original pure lines and not supporting the giants of the industry or using their P1's have made it the way it is, blame yourselves for crappy seed and sales in your own businesses think how many packs of un complained about perfect seeds get sold from the original gene banks which helps them keep the shops OPEN in AMSTERDAM....
“Seeds are not a static phase in a plants life, energy is still released through respiration".
"It is a fertile and ripened ovule that contains an embryonic plant".
"Some seeds are naked without a protective tissue; these are the Gymnosperms while other flowering plants have seeds with an integument or case to protect it from drying out".
"These are the angiosperms”
The need for seed gene banks increases along with silly uneducated efforts to preserve superior gene types.
With the constant production of new agricultural cultivars being more widespread many people now collect seeds for a variety of different reasons.
Whatever the reason seed is collected, seed longevity is of practical importance for the survival of agriculture.
While some seeds able to survive in a dormant state for hundreds of years, others can lose total viability in less than 5 years. Almost nothing is known about the mechanisms that determine the longevity of seeds.
If these mechanisms could be understood, we might someday be able to greatly increase the seed longevity of agriculturally important species and varieties, thereby enhancing our ability to preserve plant genetic resources for generations. What we must do is insure proper storage of seeds.
Mature seeds remain viable longer than immature*seeds and seed vigour usually decreases with time in storage, an exception is Elm / Ulmus seeds in which the embryo must develop or mature before they are ready to germinate.
Seeds are a key input in crop production. All cultural practices are designed to exploit the full genetic potential of the seed sown. No agricultural practice of tillage, cultivation, weeding, fertigation, pest control, etc can improve a crop beyond the limit set by the seed planted.
The best way to guarantee that the seed you plant will grow well in you location is to buy seed with a known provenance or collect seeds from the local environment yourself from as natural stand of plants as possible.
Seed kept for planting the next season is usually stored in poor conditions exposed to high temperature, pests and diseases resulting in poor germination and low plant populations in subsequent generations including weak plants that cannot compete well with weeds.
The crop may be poorer than the yield potential of the seed planted, it cannot be better.
Seeds are, therefore, the baseline for success or failure in crop production.
#######################################################
By the way no growers on here have anywhere near the skill or space and money to buy and grow out all the seed amounts needed to test such accusations about such genetic variance.
Have you all got Phd's in cannabis or genetics??....No....
Yet there are some in-valid accounts showing peoples lack of knowledge, bringing ignorance with arrogance and a certain level of stupidity with low levels of maturity towards some of the best seed company’s out there. These in-valid accounts show people growing to their full potential under Hps not to the seeds full potential.
These people are still talking about something they dream of doing!!
They have never grown out enough seeds from the Original seed banks every seed harvest ever to give science a fair chance to prove lineage performance and phenotype ratio's. And then seasonality test it to.
All the rumours are just that rumours " like Gregory Isaccs said" ......Rumours Gwan
You have week knowledge about genetics if you think f2's are the same as f1's and worse knowledge about plant science.
All you guys inbreeding the original pure lines and not supporting the giants of the industry or using their P1's have made it the way it is, blame yourselves for crappy seed and sales in your own businesses think how many packs of un complained about perfect seeds get sold from the original gene banks which helps them keep the shops OPEN in AMSTERDAM....
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MrSterling
Mr.Sterling are you one of these guys that clones off of clones year after year and tells everyone it's all good?? LOL.. is this why your having such a hard time with this info?? get a grip bra...It's okay I don't have to buy your shit so it's all good,,,I know it's hard to wrap your head around and thats okay DON'T!!! headband 707
*sigh* Every village has to have its idiot I suppose.
Ya i understand the white d i grew was some really good herb the only thing I didnt like was out of like 12 seeds i popped I only found 1 female and from other that i have talked to that ran the white d it seems like these seeds were male heavy for some reason. I would love to have some of those dud x tresdawg those were bad ass from what i have read I did just order the tredawg IX and stardawg but what i got was trestardawg and stardawg kinda pissed but just glad i got the stardawg since from what i have seen seems to be the best topdawg has made his guava 13 was also very good the stuff reeked crazy. hell i'm just glad i got the order for real comin from that place especially since it was on credit that i had their that will be the last time i order anything from their. I did make what i think should be a pretty nice cross of bodhi's lucky charms ( the white x Appalachia) x White dawg I'm deff just a pollen Chucker but i need to pop some of those and see what i find. Bodhis tigers milk is some dank from what i understand how did you like the chem91 x TOK i would think that would be some dank herb as well. I finally got my hands on some of bodhi's instant karma ( bubbakush x REZ circa 06 sour d ibl) witch i have ben after for a few years now and lucky i did seeing as they were the last that will ever be made. I have heard that the warlock and motivation were really good from magus. So I'm not to surprised you found some nice plants from them. I really can't wait to see what i find in bodhi goji Og's (deff one you should try to get if you can) as well as his Holly Wood pure kush x Uzbekistani hashplant now that you explain the way you rated them i understand. From my experience it seems like the smaller breeder usually have the better offering's in seed form since they do things in house and can spend more time on quality control unlike some of the lager dutch company's but like you said to each their own opinions are like ass holes everybody has one lol
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chase
M.N.S #1 & others
the warlock i grew back in the day was some of the best and most potent its wavered over the years though sadly from what i remember,, same with dd..
chem91x tok produced a really great girl from the 6 i started but a few didnt come out of veg right and just cabbagey when you know things arent right,, and that girl was a mess,, top weed..
had a minter of a dud/tres as well still have 6 beans
chem91x tok produced a really great girl from the 6 i started but a few didnt come out of veg right and just cabbagey when you know things arent right,, and that girl was a mess,, top weed..
had a minter of a dud/tres as well still have 6 beans
Who the hell is TBH RDW? Enlighten me because im always looking for real hybrid vigor and hardiness. Brains is pretty much alone in that category in my mind so damn, if you know something, share it..
The reason youve heard 90% bad stuff about Brains is because 90% of people are full of shit and run their mouths about stuff they dont have a friggin clue about. "Oh yeah i know all a bout it bla bla bla" BULLSHIT!!!
Ive grown 33 outdoors every year since 97 i think. 15 yrs i guess now. Ive bought probably 40-50 packs of Brains stuff in that time and ive never experienced any of the gossip ive heard. Brain Damage,Ledo uno, Spontanica, Afghani, 36, mindbender and haze special: Ive rarely found more than a couple of pheno's unless i grew out several packs. In fact, one of the reasons i buy Brains stuff is becuase i know what to expect: Not pheno's all over the place. Poor germ rates are and always have been the growers fault. So are a pack of males. You can put hermies in the same category: Its just a lack of experience and skills.
As far as i know, Brains is the ONLY, the one and ONLY breeder on the retail market today that breeds specifically for outdoor growing. Ive heard of other breeders having strains that do well outdoors, but thats differnt that breeding specifically for outdoor. I live in a tough enviroment. With wild roses and tobacco everywhere, 20 different deadly funguses are typical, frequent thunderstorms with 60-70mph winds, temps 100+ and humidities that average 65-70% daily and 90% at night. Hail, 2" grasshopper swarms, deer, wild hogs- most of the weak genetic inbred indoor shit cant survive here. I love my indoor grows, but indoor strains are weak as hell.
Ive been convinced to buy some ACe Bangi haze, but the best breeder around isnt worth a stinky shit if you cant buy his seeds. Ive been trying to get Ace seeds forever. Brains has the wherewithall to keep his shit stocked.
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Iron_Lion
TBH = To Be Honest
LOL, flmao @ TBH, sorry 
Brains is good yeh, I agree, grew several of the strains you just mentioned commercially myself. Both in as well as outdoors tho that was +half a decade ago, I reckon his stuff only has got better meanwhile.
The Creep is Dutch, same as me & I know what we are capable of when in a position of doing things 'our way' ^^
Yeh I know, some day, we "Dutchy's" should all be lined up and shot for beeing arrogant & stubborn to the hardcore, lol
But hey, one can kill the messenger but never it's legacy wha?
btw 'Love your sig IL ^^ Tho one promise was beeing made... It said whatever happens to you, no worries mate... You can handle it!
Brains is good yeh, I agree, grew several of the strains you just mentioned commercially myself. Both in as well as outdoors tho that was +half a decade ago, I reckon his stuff only has got better meanwhile.
The Creep is Dutch, same as me & I know what we are capable of when in a position of doing things 'our way' ^^
Yeh I know, some day, we "Dutchy's" should all be lined up and shot for beeing arrogant & stubborn to the hardcore, lol
But hey, one can kill the messenger but never it's legacy wha?
btw 'Love your sig IL ^^ Tho one promise was beeing made... It said whatever happens to you, no worries mate... You can handle it!
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izzybud
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Quote Moondawg oor germ rates are and always have been the growers fault. End quote.
Sorry mate, but since I am stuck to this thread for now like a fly to the shit, I seem to most definitely need to clear you up about the fact of what happens when seeds have turned old or have been stored at unappropriate temperatures or humidity levels for too long a period of time.
Besides of that you 'll get lousy germ rates this way, they will also most certainly pop at irregular intervalls wich will most definitely proof that indeed they were somewhat, uh, OLD!
But so we were supposed to go back to rating breeders right? ( and to correct a little bit of BS along the way p'haps !?!)
oor germ rates are and always have been the growers fault. End quote.Sorry mate, but since I am stuck to this thread for now like a fly to the shit, I seem to most definitely need to clear you up about the fact of what happens when seeds have turned old or have been stored at unappropriate temperatures or humidity levels for too long a period of time.
Besides of that you 'll get lousy germ rates this way, they will also most certainly pop at irregular intervalls wich will most definitely proof that indeed they were somewhat, uh, OLD!
But so we were supposed to go back to rating breeders right? ( and to correct a little bit of BS along the way p'haps !?!)
Does anyone have anything smart to say about the breeding efforts by Cees Hendriks from NoMercy supply?
I am running his 'Double Fun' now already since quite some while, and I must say that ppl with insomnia could probably benefit for rather a huge deal.
But hey, Considering my location, these days I am mostly into auto's & early's.
Was there anything in the title of this thread that excludes auto variety breeders from participating?
If not then I would recommend the Joint Doctor thus far to be my most favorite with his Diesel ryder to be at the top of his list.
Though meanwhile my eye has fallen on RCMC ( Royal Canadian Marijuana Collective, with a number of breeders at their base of wich two would be Hybrids from Hell & Borealis.
Anyone been trying any of these breeders & would mind rating them to me?
So meanwhile I have been having more and more the pleasure of getting to taste, and see growing up plants from other Auto based breeders, so any imput on those may be welcomed too.
Especially by me. ^^
I am running his 'Double Fun' now already since quite some while, and I must say that ppl with insomnia could probably benefit for rather a huge deal.
But hey, Considering my location, these days I am mostly into auto's & early's.
Was there anything in the title of this thread that excludes auto variety breeders from participating?
If not then I would recommend the Joint Doctor thus far to be my most favorite with his Diesel ryder to be at the top of his list.
Though meanwhile my eye has fallen on RCMC ( Royal Canadian Marijuana Collective, with a number of breeders at their base of wich two would be Hybrids from Hell & Borealis.
Anyone been trying any of these breeders & would mind rating them to me?
So meanwhile I have been having more and more the pleasure of getting to taste, and see growing up plants from other Auto based breeders, so any imput on those may be welcomed too.
Especially by me. ^^
criddopher
Member
Bog-lsd-7 (nice look, frosty, alright yield)
mr nice- black widow-1 ( terribly touchy plant, leafy tiny yields, I dunno, was super dissapointed ) medicine man-7 ( unique smell, good yields, easy to grow)
dj short-grape krush-0-(zero out of 20 germed, i've germed 100s of seeds with no problem so its not my technique) f13-6-(very pretty, but bad germ rate and small yield)
rez-sour diesle ibl-5-(didnt even smell like a diesle, nice yield though)(i dunno maybee a 7 cause it rates like medicine man really, but for the price and all the hype i was really dissapointed with it)
dna-kandykushxskunk-1- (leafy, small yield, really nothing good about it) pure afghan*yes the freebies*-8- (great yield, lots of purple with lower temps, smells like blueberries and cheese, fan favorite among friends)
subcool-plushberry-9 ( awesome yield, very interesting color and smell, #1 among friends )
I've run about all the freebies i get, casey jones from people under the stairs or house of love, cant remember was pretty nice, mine had hermies though. Dinafems blue widow, power kush, blue hash , white widow all were pretty good, nice yields on all of em.
running cali connects larry og - OSD (already much nicer then rez dogs SD) along with mosca negra Sweet tooth freebies and some samsara and delicious seeds freebies, will rate when they finish
mr nice- black widow-1 ( terribly touchy plant, leafy tiny yields, I dunno, was super dissapointed ) medicine man-7 ( unique smell, good yields, easy to grow)
dj short-grape krush-0-(zero out of 20 germed, i've germed 100s of seeds with no problem so its not my technique) f13-6-(very pretty, but bad germ rate and small yield)
rez-sour diesle ibl-5-(didnt even smell like a diesle, nice yield though)(i dunno maybee a 7 cause it rates like medicine man really, but for the price and all the hype i was really dissapointed with it)
dna-kandykushxskunk-1- (leafy, small yield, really nothing good about it) pure afghan*yes the freebies*-8- (great yield, lots of purple with lower temps, smells like blueberries and cheese, fan favorite among friends)
subcool-plushberry-9 ( awesome yield, very interesting color and smell, #1 among friends )
I've run about all the freebies i get, casey jones from people under the stairs or house of love, cant remember was pretty nice, mine had hermies though. Dinafems blue widow, power kush, blue hash , white widow all were pretty good, nice yields on all of em.
running cali connects larry og - OSD (already much nicer then rez dogs SD) along with mosca negra Sweet tooth freebies and some samsara and delicious seeds freebies, will rate when they finish
Quote Moondawg
Sorry mate, but since I am stuck to this thread for now like a fly to the shit, I seem to most definitely need to clear you up about the fact of what happens when seeds have turned old or have been stored at unappropriate temperatures or humidity levels for too long a period of time.
Besides of that you 'll get lousy germ rates this way, they will also most certainly pop at irregular intervalls wich will most definitely proof that indeed they were somewhat, uh, OLD!
But so we were supposed to go back to rating breeders right? ( and to correct a little bit of BS along the way p'haps !?!)
offthehook, Ive looked over my notebooks and since 2000, ive purchased in excess of 100 packs of seeds and not once over those 12 years have i experienced the conditions you claim exist in the market.
First, ive only purchased from 3 banks in that time and all 3 are very reputable. One is in Canada and ive talked to the guy that runs it a dozen times over the years and he simply wont allow old seeds to be sold and he takes very good care of the seeds he has in stock.
Gypsy, Seed Botique is the same story. He doesnt sell old seeds and takes care with the seeds he has in stock. The 3rd bank is a popular one and ive had 4-5 breeders recommend that i buy thier stock from that bank due to the care they take to make sure the seeds are cared for.
Further, you may have noticed that quality genetics from reputable breeders dont stay in stock long. Old seeds? Shit man, youre lucky if you can get a pack or 2 before theyre sold out again. Most of the seeds ive purchased over the time period havent been 1yr old in my view.
Finally, the vast majority of cannabis growers dont have a clue as to how to germ seeds and to my dismay, soak them in water in a friggin paper towel. You may notice that NO other agricultural enterprise is soaking their seeds in paper towels. I grow tobacco and every spring i germinate 1/2 million tobacco seeds. Germination of seeds is a science. Follow the rules and youll have good success.
If you do some research, youll find that cannabis seeds, like many other annuals, germinate between 76 and 80 degrees farenthiet. At 72 or 84, germ times are doubled and 10 degrees off of the optimimum either way means a slow germ or no germ.
At 78 degrees, ALL cannabis seeds germinate in 18-24 hrs. F2's of equatorail sativa's can take as long as 72 hrs, but if temps remain constant at 78 and moisture is kept constant, all seeds will germinate very quickly.
Of the 100 or more packs ive purchased in the past 12 years, well over 50% have had 100% germ. Another 30-35% have had 90% and the remaining 15% or so had 80. If germination is done properly, germ rates are ALWAYS high and most often 100%.
My freebies were among the favorites too.
Interested in those Delicious seeds. Wanting to try the NLxBlue
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MrSterling
moondawg, I'm in agreement with most of what you said, except that all cannabis seeds will sprout within that window of time. Ol' Sadhu Sam the Skunkman's seeds seem notorious for taking a LONG TIME to germinate for example. I remember people having his seeds pop their heads up after a couple weeks.
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