Questions for Sam the Skunkman on Hindu Kush Indicas

[oldtoker]

sam my old hippie friends busted a coffie can label old seeds, inside he get back with label COOSBAY KUsh

im imagineing it comes from coosbay OR

is this anything u have heard of, these are sierously old seeds, and theres a few more old varity from this area i am gona try to get.

COOSBAY KUSH

this guys doesnt grow but was a heavy grower in the 70-89 period hes just a hippie friend

should i get these seeds bro and dedicate time to them?
im guessin they are probley 20 years old atleast so the germ rates is probley gona be spectacular right lol.

 

[Guest]

Hello there.. I dont think that we have met yet.. its a pleasure to meet your aquaintence.. In response to your last post I have some Oaxacan Seeds that I picked up in one trip back home years back. My good friend just got back from Durango Mexico and brought back some seeds as well.. I have read that this is a hot spot of High THC cannabis in Mexico and I am curious to see what sprouts... I have grown out the Oaxaca and they are your typical Sativa Flowers with nice flavour and high but not very potent. Good Daytime Herb though.. The wierd thing is that they appear to have Indica in them. I believe this is due to the fact the Cartels in Mexico have tried to upgrade thier genetics and increase amount of Harvest in a year by adding in some Indica Genetics. Truth be told that If they just paid more attention to their cultivation and harvest methods the this would suffice. Anyhow just thought that I would chime in..

Sam, Do you have any exp with Durango Cannabis?

Hi man, always good to make aquaintences with fellow cannabistas!

I've not got much experience of Mexican strains but here is the description of 'Durango Romance' that was on sale last year by a shoirt-lived UK company called Mexi Seeds. After they had shutdown I discovered the three varieties they sold were all authentic Mexicans so I was pissed I didn't buy any while I had the chance. MarijuanaMat is growing the Michoacan and they look great.

Durango Romance

All seeds come in packets of 10 Pure Inbred line (landrace) Another pure sativa strain from Mexico's Durango region. This strain has been selectively inbred since the late 80's and is therefore a stabilized IBL strain with little variation in the plants. Durango Romance has a beautiful taste and aroma, A really sweet and spicy strain. The yield is impressive indoors while outdoors yield is over 1kg on a large plant. The growth rate of Durango Romance is fast and for a pure sativa the flowering period is short (10-12 weeks). Buds grow tight and dense and glisten in THC nearing harvest time. Indoors plants should be switched to a flowering cycle after 3 weeks of vegative growth This strain responds well to been Toped, trained or knuckled making it an ideal Screen of green plant. An great sativa that is sure to please.

I don't know if she is a pure Mexican or not, but I just harvested this lovely sativa I grew from seeds I collected in Cancun a couple of years ago:

 

[cway]

Thats a nice plant B_H. Its always fun with unknown genetics.. I think that my friend has quite a bit of seeds, in the hundreds.. Once they get going ill post pics and if they turn out to be special I wouldnt mind sharing some seeds with folks.. As long as they are grown out... Im on a Mexican Sativa Seedhunt....Maybe make some mexican haze.. LOL.. Joking but its always fun...

 

[Guest]

Cheers cway. I enjoy growing unknown genetics far more than comemrcial varieties. Good luck with your hunt!

 

[PAGreen]

Do the chinese smoke hash or flowers, or is it all just cultivated as hemp?

 

[Londinium]

Do the chinese smoke hash or flowers, or is it all just cultivated as hemp?

Hi PAGreen, This may help its by RCC and Shao Hong and it's very informative.

Cannabis has spread naturally and has also been cultivated in nearly every province and climatic zone in China from ancient times to the present. The fibers of Cannabis stalks are most commonly used to make ropes, clothes and other textiles, while its seeds are pressed for their oil, or are eaten raw or roasted as snacks between meals (especially in northwestern YunnanProvince). They are also mixed in buttered tea by Tibetans. Some Cannabis is illicitly planted for smoking in the Xinjiang Province of northwestern China. Drug Cannabis is rarely, if ever, applied as a medicine in Chinese hospitals because it is erroneously considered addicting.
\/The full link is here, but I'm sure Sam will have some extra info as well! JBo
http://mojo.calyx.net/~olsen/HEMP/IHA/iha03207.html
Also this to contradict:
Opium and cannabis were equally available in pre-Communist China; but cannabis had no vogue as an intoxicant (Barber, 1970: 80). The Chinese spoke of the plant as the "Liberator of Sin." In India, it was called. the "Giver of Life" (Fort, 1970: 15). One author proposed that temperament may have also played a role in this determination, suggesting that perhaps the placid, practical Chinese did not appreciate the euphoria produced by cannabis (Snyder, 1070: 125).
\/Link here:
http://www.skunked.co.uk/articles/history-intoxicant.htm
Also:

Despite the numerous Chinese references to cannabis it has never played a comparable role in Chinese social life to that it achieved in the Middle East and India. Hui-lin Li has suggested that the austere and somewhat puritanical system of ethics and social behaviour founded by Confucius put a stop to the widespread use of cannabis as a psychoactive substance. The often unpredictable effects of cannabis could easily result in a very un-Confucian way of behaving. Opium, says Li, with its narcotic effects, was far more socially acceptable. Whilst a superficially persuasive explanation for the marginal role of cannabis use in China, it fails to explain why alcohol – surely the most un-Confucian of all inebriants! – should have played such an important role in Chinese history. The real explanation may lie elsewhere. That cannabis may have been one of the main psychoactive substances used by the shamans of archaic China may have resulted in the decline of the habit along with the shamanism that gave its use its meaning. The other reason for its marginal place is that traditionally China has seen itself as the unmoving center and the surrounding barbarians of its northern and western borders as a volatile threat. Cannabis, as the chosen drug of many of these neighbouring peoples, would have been an unsavoury choice for many Han Chinese, who didn't wish to indulge in 'barbarian habits'. This still holds true today. In Chinese Turkestan (Xinjiang) the local Muslim peoples, mainly Uighurs, are still associated with cannabis by the Han Chinese.

According to Owen Lattimore, a great traveller and expert on Central Asia, in 1937-38, 42 per cent of exports from Chinese Turkestan to India down one of the old silk routes were in the form of cannabis resin. That cannabis may have been one of the main psychoactive substances used by the shamans of archaic China may have resulted in the decline of its use as the cult of shamanism gave way to religion organised on a larger scale. Hemp does not seem to have been used to any significant degree for its psychoactive properties by the Japanese people, although hemp strands were an important symbol in betrothal and marriage (as were hemp seeds in Europe, see below). The 'gohei', a sacred rod used by Shinto priests to banish impure spirits, has traditionally been made of hemp.
\/ Link:
http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/on_cannabis.html

 

[jimbroker]

Can't win for losing

 

[skar]

hello,

just buyed some DNA "pure afghan"...it say it's a Mazar-i-sharif line...wondering if it's a line collected recently or a preserved line...any thoughts Sam (i understand that you don't know what's in every release of afghan or Hindu.K but in case of with this one...) ?

peace

 

[Guest]

Sam, just wondering, did you bring the Hashplant cuttign to Holland in the 80s? Is the Hashplant x Northern Lights seedline your work?

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I did not bring it. And it is not my work.
-SamS

 

[joaquin386]

Sam as from your posts you work with -> Skunk #1, Durban Poison, O. Haze any other?
(Of course you have work with plenty but any species you gave a special look at?)

 

[Guest]

Hey COOL the sticky is BACK!

Looks like my HOLLA got listened too!!
THanks SAM keep the great info commin.......
chuckle chuckle!

 

[phrank]

? for Sam

? for Sam

Any plans to release any of your Kush lines like you did the Haze x SK#1?

phrank

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

No.
-SamS

 

[ndnguy]

howdy Big H.....
don't know of a cut that matches the orig. PK ...though may be some hybrids of....in early 80's it was a staple that some folks I knew in the Panther Gap area of southern Humby county tended along with a 12th generation Chilean indica that we nic'ed the "Brain Weed".....supposed orgin of PK was a Vet bring back who resided outside of Petrolia and was also responsible for a pure Burmese line that worked very well closer to the coast........lived off wind generators and propane and rarely cleared less than 80 lb's/season........those were the daaaazzze..........

ganj on................

Bro you ever hear oif Big Sur Haze?? Was sent a pack and will be sending it your way,should be grown out where it originated from if thats the case. Maybe you could tend it next year or something ,might find something worth growin brother, never know. Don't want to screw it upso far up north up here and give it a chance to flourish in your sunshine, got a few others to sorry for the delay but sickness always tend to slow shit down ,will be in mail MOn...ndn

 

[ndnguy]

Just recieved a nice gift from a bro ,chunk of Afghan and chunkof Maroc.Afghan was ok ,hell any hash besides soapbar is ok with me lol, but the Maroc was really a treat ,some florar,some spice awesome high,real good puffin material. Wish I could beam back to the old days where you could get all the sealed and stamped hash you wanted and could afford it.

 

[Limeygreen]

I would love to see all the Cultivator's choice seeds available, The S.S.S.C. seeds available and the Sacred Seeds all available (some repeated strains for sure), unfortunatley I think I was born a couple decades late for that.

 

[bigherb]

sam
release? r u planning on any new releases?

any info on who sells the original hashplant seeds

limey
i feel the same

 

[Limeygreen]

I don't think he will be releasing anything anytime soon.

I have no plans to release anything soon as I am busy with other work, (R&D).

 

[mriko]

Have you read the 1893 Indian Hemp Comission Report?
Nine volumes 3698 pages, plus 2 secret reports written for the military.
It has a lot of info on cultivation, trade, use, of Cannabis and Hashish in all parts of India. They interviewed smokers, doctors, police, farmers, sadhus, people in the trade, tax officals, in most areas of India. I read the whole 11 volume report at the Bombay Asiatic Library, took 2 weeks. The best report on Cannabis I've ever read.

Very interesting tip, I'll probably have to go India next winter, so will book 2 weeks or so for Mumbai !

By the way, Sam, did you give any try to the Pak Hindu Kush seeds I brough back to you few years ago ?

Irie !