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question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

ScrubBuds

New member
Seedsman where offering Original Haze in 2010 for ten quid a packet, bloody cheap I thought so I bought 3 packs.
As the description says Floral, Leather smell that was my ideal type for me to make selections upon.
I only chose those plants that had the 'old dance hall' aromas and destroyed All cat p smelling plants (yuk grosse)
I now have the classic smelling. tasting Haze plants that can be identified straight away with the first toke.
It has been my observation that My desirable aromas seem to be more stronger in the Haze males, so after line breeding my ODH smelling Hazes the stronger the aromas.
So I think Sam has done an outstanding job in preserving the few remaining Classic traits after all this time, I totally love what I have and will continue with this awesome strain.
Just wondering if anyone else has had the same similar experience with the OH line?
Cheers for now SB
 

meltybubble

Member
Seedsman where offering Original Haze in 2010 for ten quid a packet, bloody cheap I thought so I bought 3 packs.
As the description says Floral, Leather smell that was my ideal type for me to make selections upon.
I only chose those plants that had the 'old dance hall' aromas and destroyed All cat p smelling plants (yuk grosse)
I now have the classic smelling. tasting Haze plants that can be identified straight away with the first toke.
It has been my observation that My desirable aromas seem to be more stronger in the Haze males, so after line breeding my ODH smelling Hazes the stronger the aromas.
So I think Sam has done an outstanding job in preserving the few remaining Classic traits after all this time, I totally love what I have and will continue with this awesome strain.
Just wondering if anyone else has had the same similar experience with the OH line?
Cheers for now SB


Hi, I have grown OH hybrids and will be popping more asap. Love the cultivar and am interested in crossing her with a few.
WW x OHaze was real nice, I have a few of what lines I had and will make more for personal and to outcross.
Awesome work indeed!
:tiphat:
 

idiit

Active member
Veteran
WW x OHaze was real nice

me2. Mexican Leprechauns got those this year. they were my best yielding plants from what I was seeing before they got spotted. i'm using aww. peeps think ww or aww for frost and yeah, some frosty phenos but it's the bud structure and yield that has my interest.
 

Thule

Dr. Narrowleaf
Veteran
Original Haze x Annapurna Nepalese seeds are forming. I didn't make many, just a few pre flowers got pollinated. I smoke tested the male and he wasn't very potent so I think I'll look into my Ukhrul male next and also make some pure Haze seeds. Haze x Nepal might still be good but it's not like I did any selection to find this male so I'll keep playing around until something exceptional comes along.
 

meltybubble

Member
me2. Mexican Leprechauns got those this year. they were my best yielding plants from what I was seeing before they got spotted. i'm using aww. peeps think ww or aww for frost and yeah, some frosty phenos but it's the bud structure and yield that has my interest.


Stable big yeilding plants each time, awesome man.:tiphat:
 

steamgod

New member
Is there any confirmed relationships between any haze variations that have or are being grown on these forums to the uptown haze that is being sold out the heights today?

What's is that strain or strains that come out the heights with that guaranteed stink, something like a frankincense rain forest piss?

That's haze to me idk, but it's now a sleeper, the streets forgot about this girl... Not us lol
 

steamgod

New member
The one I'm smoking right now is so whispy and piffy it's delicious, nugs look ultra tropical, very delicate. Stinks like church basement, breaks up louder and tastes more spicy. Very racey and tripy... Good girl she is.

If this ain't Frank's I don't know what else is... Funny thing my boy just came back from CO, Cali & Hawaii & has been to Amsterdam, and says he has never seen anything that ever truly resembles the haze of NY.

Who are you!!!?!???!????

Real treat though!
 

Thule

Dr. Narrowleaf
Veteran
I now have an original haze male. I want to pollinate everything with it :D I'll have to give this some more thought.
 

SeedyPast

Active member
Be sure and freeze up some individual lots of pollen that you can use at will, in case he turns out to be studly. If he's a winner, there are prob no bad combos. Though my personal preference would be crossing with nearly pure sativa moms with shorter flowering times and/or denser bud structure.
 

Thule

Dr. Narrowleaf
Veteran
Be sure and freeze up some individual lots of pollen that you can use at will, in case he turns out to be studly. If he's a winner, there are prob no bad combos. Though my personal preference would be crossing withnearly pure sativa moms with shorter flowering times and/or denser bud structure.


I'll freeze some pollen for sure, but this is a male I'll probably hang onto for now. I decided not to use the Ukhrul male, it seems weedy and similar to the Nepalese, it's not really giving a dank impression (unlike the haze male). Brought the Indian Hazes inside from the balcony, from a 12.20 hour long day to 10.30. Yes I'm forcing things, I wanted that Manipuri to be something, male, female I don't care. It's still not complying.
 

Thule

Dr. Narrowleaf
Veteran
Alright, I've had enough time to think about my haze situation. I already have some Original Haze x Annapurna seeds drying, and the next plants to show sex are probably the four Indian Hazes. Both hybrids would be perfect candidates to cross back to the original haze and bring back some vigour, not that they are obviously lacking any but it'll be interesting to find out what happens.

Pure seeds are forming in the meantime..

Edit: took this picture of the kerala x haze about two weeks ago

 

LowFalutin

Stems Analyst
Veteran
been vaping OHxSk1, that was harvested back in mid-april.

super tasty-
alternating between something along the rootbeer - dr.pepper continuum,
and a cinnabon, due to a soft creamy "cake-y"
sweetness added to that cinnamon-y spicyness.
(smokers, you're missing some great tastes from weed by not vaping)

the skunk's not fogging the high too much,
just adds a bit of "smooth".

got a seedling i made with her up and running now,
created by pollen from a loudly lemon-cedar smelling
male from a johnnyBlazeF2 x greenHazexThaiF3 cross.
 

Thule

Dr. Narrowleaf
Veteran
I was a bit late when starting to plant those mother plants for my Ohaze stud so I just stuck them all under the 11/13 lighting and now two weeks later the faster ones are already starting to show. Mextiza and Ohaze will be in the mix by the looks of it :)

This is just a note for myself for future reference, I'm sexing these in a micro setup so they don't look that good in pictures. By the time the seeds are ripe I should have a bigger lamp. Won't be too long I hope.
 

Thule

Dr. Narrowleaf
Veteran
The Indian I showed you turned out male..
which isn't a catastrophe really.



There are two more that haven't sexed yet and one runt. I'm not sure but I think these must be at least f3 by now. They are still more vigorous than the Original Hazes and there are other subtle differences starting to show like the brighter green color and flexible stems.

I want to bring both Hazes together in a kind of a back cross, 75% Original Haze, 25% Kerala. I only have one Haze female at the moment so until the pure seeds are ripe for picking I'll just pollinate everything I've got with these two males. :biggrin: I'm a lucky guy to be reunited with these very special genetics which are my favourite smoke to date. Indian Haze was also the first strain I ever grew under lamps so it feels like the circle is now almost complete.

The first two Mixtizas were both male so I'll just pop more. They both sexed at around 10-14 days from seed which is why I want to bring them together with the Haze. That and the divine lime bouquet coupled with a class A high. This is my choice for the fast flowering haze hybrid.

I also sprouted one Swazi red beard to cross with, just to scare people. :hide:

edit: Indian Haze female spotted!
 

bigherb

Well-known member
Veteran
Thule

The Haze x Kerala I'm sure will produce something special, I'd love too see your OHaze females . Have you flowered them out before ? If Soo can you share some info on there traits ?

Low falutin

Very interesting pheno , the taste is very unique . Sounds delicious

I'd love too see pics if possible

1luvbigherb
 

bigherb

Well-known member
Veteran
Sams

Can you tell us about Haze#5 ?

I'm curious to know all about her

Is it a selected OHaze ? What year she was selected ? What does she taste and smell like? Flowering time ? Effects ?

1luvbigherb
 

Thule

Dr. Narrowleaf
Veteran
Thule

The Haze x Kerala I'm sure will produce something special, I'd love too see your OHaze females . Have you flowered them out before ? If Soo can you share some info on there traits ?

Low falutin

Very interesting pheno , the taste is very unique . Sounds delicious

I'd love too see pics if possible

1luvbigherb

Hi, this is my first time flowering the Original Haze. I'm not sure you're going to "love" seeing my Ohaze female, this is a micro grow under a 125w fluoro :) The plants were started on the balcony and caught all kinds of pests, (mites, whiteflies..) some of which I'm still battling with.

This time around I'm just making some seeds and crosses, when I upgrade my setup things will be good for the Indian Hazes. I'm afraid the Ohaze is past the point of benefiting and won't yield anything but seeds, but I think the world needs more ohaze seeds :smoke:



I don't usually have the oppotunity to take pictures but I have this one. A ladybug somehow ended up in my tent and landed on one of the Indian Hazes

That's Ohaze on the left. That scraggly looking plant in the background is a half dead, heavily inbred Peruvian sativa (last of her kind) that was already dying in the corner.. she however started shooting fresh pistils so I thought whatta hell and shook some Haze pollen on her, I never thought it would work but so far so good..

In this context I really like this quote from SamS,

"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I have found that my line is fairly inbred as it was not out-crossed except for the Thai and S Indian one year, and that was just a few plants. Most are just pure Original Haze Colombian, with no WLD Wide Leaf Drug (was called Indica) genes, zero. Because it is inbred if you do if you do outcross it the qualities are improved like vigor and potency."

So that would make pretty much Peruvian/Colombian, even though they're probably not closely related. The Peruvian is not a refined smoke so it'll be interesting to see if the Haze magic is enough to make it that.
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JACKBAYBEH

Active member
Sams

Can you tell us about Haze#5 ?

I'm curious to know all about her

Is it a selected OHaze ? What year she was selected ? What does she taste and smell like? Flowering time ? Effects ?

1luvbigherb

I would also love to hear the deets on this one.
Haze#5 x Haze/Sk#1 is my next seed purchase, no doubt.
 

Dirt Life

Well-known member
Veteran
I love it when this thread gets bumped! Got a couple small Haze #19/Skunk 1's in flower now. Only on day 11, so not much to see yet.



Would also love to hear about this Haze #5, sounds interesting. :)
 

englishrick

Plumber/Builder
Mentor
ICMag Donor
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Where the heck are you guys getting these crazy Sam seeds like haze 5,,,wtf have I missed something? Please do tell
 

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