Hi,for breeding with other strain,is better to use gaze male or female?
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question for sam the skunkman on the original haze
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If you can/should try both, when I worked with Eddie I grew his Fuma con Dios and Fuma con Diablos, both Skunk x Haze but one with Skunk male other with Haze male, both superior smokes.
Which one had least stretch, if you don't mind me asking?
Kerala x O Haze ? Sam, AmsterDammer,anyone 
Kerala x O Haze ? Sam, AmsterDammer,anyone
Hi SamS,AmsterDammer et al. I have been trying to replace my Kerala x O Haze that I lost a few years ago-I made f2's but they were lost in same situation and I have seeds of a different line from Kerala that I'm gonna cross to a Thunk and some other Haze X's and that should be good-but it wont be the same thing.I Can't seem to get my cut back via anyone I shared it with. Do you know who might still have some? ta.
I believe HazeMist by Flying Dutchman was the same and the Seedsman Indian Haze too originally...But I hear they aren't still same now,anyone got an idea or know of a cut? Such a clear high,great sativa hybrid...I miss it!
Thanks Luck'n'Light JBo
Kerala x O Haze ? Sam, AmsterDammer,anyone
Hi SamS,AmsterDammer et al. I have been trying to replace my Kerala x O Haze that I lost a few years ago-I made f2's but they were lost in same situation and I have seeds of a different line from Kerala that I'm gonna cross to a Thunk and some other Haze X's and that should be good-but it wont be the same thing.I Can't seem to get my cut back via anyone I shared it with. Do you know who might still have some? ta.
I believe HazeMist by Flying Dutchman was the same and the Seedsman Indian Haze too originally...But I hear they aren't still same now,anyone got an idea or know of a cut? Such a clear high,great sativa hybrid...I miss it!
Thanks Luck'n'Light JBo
Just a question, what would you guys cross with Original Haze?
It is well known that outcrossing Ohaze tends to create plants stronger than either parent, so what's the perfect combination? The question isn't completely hypothetical as I have two Ohazes entering flower mode as we speak. I have a fast Nepalese jungli male ready but I'm not sure if that cross would rock my world. It might?
It is well known that outcrossing Ohaze tends to create plants stronger than either parent, so what's the perfect combination? The question isn't completely hypothetical as I have two Ohazes entering flower mode as we speak. I have a fast Nepalese jungli male ready but I'm not sure if that cross would rock my world. It might?
Durban perhaps.
Keep on growing
Keep on growing
Durban perhaps.
Keep on growing
I've got Durban seeds too, but hasn't that been done already?
So has Ciskei x Haze which I could do.Manipur would probably rock but I don't like waiting for plants to sex (for months).
Not that it's any of my business, but why? Most breeders are happy to explain their varieties. Edit: I really enjoyed listening to you on Hash Church. Thanks for contributing.
M.
Serendipity, make the cross if all is lined up.
What is Nepalese jungli anyway, I wonder.
I just might, I could call it serendipity haze
Jungli is basically the stuff that grows wild all over the Himalayas. The cannabinoid and resin profiles can be anything, THCV, purple colors.. It's all there. I like how fast he showed and also the idea of a Nepalese Haze. Should bring lots of vigour.
I believe this is the mother of my Nepalese male
Collected by bodhi in the Annapurnas
I'd be inclined to go for something at the complete opposite end of the spectrum. Something with super fat leaves like Deep Chunk. I can't imagine something more un-related than DC, so you should get super-vigorous offspring.
I'd be inclined to go for something at the complete opposite end of the spectrum. Something with super fat leaves like Deep Chunk. I can't imagine something more un-related than DC, so you should get super-vigorous offspring.
I'm not really a hybrid kind of a guy, hybrid as in indi-sat. My goal is to stay as high as possible in the sativa spectrum and to create something new and faster flowering in the process. Tom Hill's haze has been crossed with DC (with outstanding results) so it's certainly a good way to go but I've been thinking something along the lines of Haze x Mextiza. I absolutely love Mextiza, it grows like an indica hybrid but smokes like a sativa with the most exquisite taste. Not sure if it translates well in hybrids but Ohaze sure does.
Thanks for all the suggestions!
Hi Thule,I think the Haze and Jungli is worth a go for sure and agree about staying in the Sativa spectrum. Althogh its wild nature will mean it'll take work to get any stability from seed....There aren't any Nepalese genes in Haze AFAIK so there will be an additive element to the cross as opposed to any mexi,colomb,affie crosses which probably won't be adding anything better than whats already within Haze. The Nepali,an Indian Sativa,an African Sativa or something else that's not in Haze and Skunk already would bring something original to the mix.
I wonder if SamS has crossed haze to Nepali before and has anything to share? Seed Bank and SSSC had some Nepali in their crosses but don't know if that was from SamS or if any had a Haze Nep cross? Good Luck Whatever path you take JBo
I wonder if SamS has crossed haze to Nepali before and has anything to share? Seed Bank and SSSC had some Nepali in their crosses but don't know if that was from SamS or if any had a Haze Nep cross? Good Luck Whatever path you take
JBo
I made that cross albeit with a phz leaning sativa out of dr. gt's golden haze. tastes like sweet blackberries. super frosty. not pure phz. I used mandala's bat pheno from his Nepalese satori. satori is Nepalese indica/Nepalese sativa.
the phz was also used in my jojo aww hybrid.
ok, here's what I've noticed; the phz is very dominant in these two crosses and the phz adds tremendous vigor. comes in very late due to the phz dominance. this is exactly what I want. I need the gals to come in after the summer heat and humidity has dissipated ( se usa).
i'll have more info this fall.
the prospect of qwiso taffy made with phz/ hashish cultivators ( Nepalese indica, aloha white widow) is very interesting to me. the qwiso is reddish black/brown. having an extract that looks like blackberries, tastes like blackberries and very powerful potency is something I am pursuing. This taffy is super easy to make and I could sell these seeds to customers wanting to make their own extract that don't have that anal bug about dark extract colors up their ass
.quote from skunk pharm:"A cured material QWISO absolute made from prime bud, is one of the most aromatic and tasty of the extraction and consistently gets high raves from the volunteer test panels, as well as the patients and students when vaporized. Both from an efficacy, as well as a flavor standpoint."
^ this stuff looks to me like it fully melts, is finger friendly; look ma! no greasy stains!
you just snap off a piece pancake it, put it on top of a packed bowl and melt it down or hit it with a nail rig or portable vape. it's ridiculously finger friendly to use at room temp (70-72 f)
First in mind is MM(Mullumbimby madness), then a good Thai, a good Mexican(Mextiza sounds great, also Michoacan or Guerrero), then a Punto Rojo and of course with a good Jack Herer
Yesterday I was daydreaming on a car trip back from a gig about living somewhere near the equator and growing a field of OT hazes + Original hazes and setting up an orgy with well proven cuts/seeds like JH, Nevil's Haze and some other kind of old school lines.
So nice to daydream...
About 15 years ago I had some very nice C99 x OH beans which I grew many times. Unfortunately I didn't store them in the fridge, so none will germinate anymore. They still have alive looking tissue inside if I cut one open, but totally dormant not matter what I try.
It was a great cross, not too big for indoors.
i'm doing a selection of pure green oldtimers haze:
to find a nice female to reverse onto- durban, ghana, punto rojo, bangi haze, etc.
to find a few nice males to pollenate- fem. purple mexican, fem. golden tiger
:and more (e.g., personal crosses)
the green OT hazes are vegging under natural light, 9-10 wks from seed.
will flower under HPS in the fall, with 11/13 light sched. i'll actually do the
crossings next year, after the selection.
Bendiciones.....
Bendiciones.....
Hola Hierberos,
Thank you for the information on this thread.
For years, I kept hearing great things about the legendary skunk haze. Which ones (Original Haze, Skunk Haze, SSH, Mango Haze), etc.) have you found that meets the 5% criteria?
I, also, heard to look for the cock and balls phenos. Characteristics are the long inner leaf and two smaller leafs.
Anyways, my thoughts have always been to explore the great works of others to find the legends of old. Thank you to Sam, Shantibaba (RIP), and others for allowing us this experience.
I'll leave you with a skunk haze from Shantibaba that started out with a cock and balls profile. The smoke is pretty much what we all look for in a haze.
For your viewing pleasure.....Skunk Haze...aka Bully.
Bendiciones.....
Hola Hierberos,
Thank you for the information on this thread.
For years, I kept hearing great things about the legendary skunk haze. Which ones (Original Haze, Skunk Haze, SSH, Mango Haze), etc.) have you found that meets the 5% criteria?
I, also, heard to look for the cock and balls phenos. Characteristics are the long inner leaf and two smaller leafs.
Anyways, my thoughts have always been to explore the great works of others to find the legends of old. Thank you to Sam, Shantibaba (RIP), and others for allowing us this experience.
I'll leave you with a skunk haze from Shantibaba that started out with a cock and balls profile. The smoke is pretty much what we all look for in a haze.
For your viewing pleasure.....Skunk Haze...aka Bully.
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Thule, I'd cross Original Haze with CBG and USC Colombians with similar terpenes and high. In Colombian Hazes + 20 weeks of flower, the high should follow the color of flowers with a 6 month cure. You get blended rainbow colored pheno-types, similar to any poly-hybrid like Original Haze or Old Timers Haze. Gold Colombian has a different high than Purple Colombian.
CBG and USC have good vigor and not so long ago these genetics were growing in the Colombian mountains. CBG and USC Colombians have good vigor, and could easily grow + 20 feet tall, in good conditions. CBG Punto Rojo has four or five pheno-types.
Purple Original Haze x Purple Colombian Mangobiche
Gold Original Haze x Gold Colombian Punto Rojo
Gold Original Haze x ColJam (1980 Colombian Gold x 1960's Jamaican Lambsbread) x 1980 Colombian Gold
Green Original Haze x Green Colombian Punto Rojo
Light Green Original haze x Light Green Colombian Punto Rojo
Magenta Original Haze x Magenta Colombian Mangobiche or Punto Rojo
I'm smoking magenta / green Colombian Punto Rojo with a delightful, pleasurable, euphoric high. The aroma is sweet tropical fruit, mango guava.
Gold Colombian has a trippy, clear, and energetic high. The aroma is spice/pine/pepper aromas, often associated with frankincense a tree resin.
There is also a sweet temple incense aroma that is more elusive than frankincense.
I have two lots of Old Timers Haze (OTH) seeds from a gold mother and a light green mother. OTH fathers were mixed and Punto Rojo and ColJam fathers are mixed and untested.
My next grow " Going for the Gold"
ColJam (1980 Colombian Gold x 1960's Jamaican Lambsbread) x 1980 Colombian Gold
Punto Rojo - gold mother
Punto Rojo - magenta / green mother
Old Timers Haze - gold mother
[ColJam (1980 Colombian Gold x 1960's Jamaican Lambsbread) x 1980 Colombian Gold] x Punto Rojo - gold mother
Punto Rojo - gold mother x (1972 Colombian Gold x C99)
