Nighttime question: Is there a possibility that some of the seeds sold as original haze in the 80s and 90s are actually other long-flowering sativas sold as haze? A bit like certain hybrids sold as landrace ...
Nighttime question: Is there a possibility that some of the seeds sold as original haze in the 80s and 90s are actually other long-flowering sativas sold as haze? A bit like certain hybrids sold as landrace ...
Personally, I regard incense aroma as the defining characteristic of haze. If a Sativa has the incense aroma when it burns, it’s haze to me. If it doesn’t, it’s just a Sativa.
Those making hybrids using Original Haze or THH, have you found that you get faster flowering hybrids using haze as the mother plant as opposed to using haze as the pollen donor? I used haze as the father for several hybrids in hopes of harnesting some of that famous hybrid vigour. The only cross where haze (Indian) was the mother is looking a lot faster flowering than the others. Can't make too many assumptions based on one cross only, so any similar experiences?
Positronic's Haze was not pure. I remember reading an interview where it was stated it is a selection of a (Early?) Durban x Haze cross.
TFD and SM Haze (both probably from SamS) had the incense smell, a little bit of woody (sandalwood) smell and a very faint lemony component. Sometimes I thought it had a bit of carrot smell too.
Haze (in veg.) was not a strong smelling plant, even a bit hay-ish.
Id just like to add two quotes to your collective of quotes to ponder on
[QUOTE]"All of the S Indian and Thai crosses were toward the end of Haze production. Not only males were used for crosses. The 3 year timeline was just someones dream , Haze was grown for over 10years by the haze bros [/b], Sacred seeds tried to stabilize Haze with mixed results.The quality dropped considerably.The problem is that the best Hazes were F1s Hybrids , and Haze stabilization can not be done without a loss of vigor.
Also I never chose males for hybrids, you do not know how good they are or their ability to contribute to a new hybrid. I use haze females , and I do have a few Haze males that I selected from hundreds of males , after testing their progeny first. But it is a lot of work and beyond most closet breeders. The progenys growouts involved thousands of plants. Just to determine the best haze male to use for Hybrids"
Another quote from page 120. By SamS I assume.
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Do you have pictures? My Original Hazes have all had green stems with red stripes on them, quite uniform.
What we've been wondering on the forums is where all the colorful expressions are. Seedman's Orginal Haze afaik is all about the green phenotypes. Anyone got pictures of a purple Ohaze?
Quote:
'Haze 19 was grown by me, I just numbered my Haze seedlings 1-1000, #19 is what they were interested in, If I remember correctly they used seeds from Haze 19 to make their line, I don't think it was a Haze 19 clone I gave them....'
-SamS
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Originally Posted by ManyClouds View Post
'I have a haze question that's really for haze afficinados in general... What traits did the original haze #19 have that it was selected for? Was it stouter, stronger, smellier, colorful, ect... I've done multitudes of searches, read alot, not sure how much is conjecture and how much is fact. Basically, why was the 19th plant out of however many plants were grown, chosen?
Figured if somebody out there knows, or could direct me to places that I could research myself, this would be the place to ask.
P.S. ~ I've read this entire thread before, and Sam S. specifically said the haze #19 was a wernard/positronic selection, I believe.
Thanks for any and all help!'
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=82182&highlight=hill&page=115
Tom hill haze is haze 19
Wait, if Positronic's haze comes from a single Haze #19 clone chosen by Wernard.. Who was the father?
I dont understand why so many growers would report incense in THH, if there is no incense look at huge difference beetween THH and seedsman haze