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Pure Thai Seeds?
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its ironic , and the thais also think so ,
that we want what they have , and they want what we have ,, lol ..
living in the tropics , i can say the typical hybrids we have are not great for the climate ,
not as far as growing them ,, cause they grow fine ,
its more one feels lethargic more from them vs a thai sativa or sativa dominant type ,
i never got that from stuff i smoked in thailand ...
that we want what they have , and they want what we have ,, lol ..
living in the tropics , i can say the typical hybrids we have are not great for the climate ,
not as far as growing them ,, cause they grow fine ,
its more one feels lethargic more from them vs a thai sativa or sativa dominant type ,
i never got that from stuff i smoked in thailand ...
Good point Don! Never thought of it that way but makes a lot of sense mate. I watched a youtube video the other day of a bloke buying flowers in the new coffee shops / dispensaries around Bangkok, 99% were US new age strains and the occasional thai sativa, Hope to see that switch up a but more in time but good to see the new freedoms at least. Cheers Kit
xet
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True and also that chunk of general public who only love their current thing drooling hybrids, whatever is popular this hour, is everywhere. UK wants Ford, US wants BMW. All these folks can't get the mission of liberation from Babylon.
Few seek that ancient forest and life of constant rebirth into discovering the mighty one within us.
Only high-man beings understand the truly sativa sacrament.
Angus' friend in Laos exclusively growing local thais/burmese/laos for example.
Save the thais, save the planet.
Yesterday I saw somes plants growing in a locals garden. One was flowering, as I looked closer I saw the male flowers.
My guess this is from Cambodian or Laos brick weed. It doesn't make sense that farmers would grow herms, if they did the bricks would be heavily seeded, which they aren't. My guess is that something happens during drying and compressing that turns them herm. Sometimes there is mold in the bricks, which means it was pressed slightly wet and it has a compost smell. Maybe things get hot in the brick?
I'm sure there's others more knowledgeable with better ideas.
My guess this is from Cambodian or Laos brick weed. It doesn't make sense that farmers would grow herms, if they did the bricks would be heavily seeded, which they aren't. My guess is that something happens during drying and compressing that turns them herm. Sometimes there is mold in the bricks, which means it was pressed slightly wet and it has a compost smell. Maybe things get hot in the brick?
I'm sure there's others more knowledgeable with better ideas.
TheDarkStorm
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If your pretty confident that the seeds didn't come from hermie plants, then a good thing would be to check out the day light hours around planting season in country of origin up untill harvest season an see if your light hours follow similar paterns.... Im guessing if they defo arnt from hermies then it would be good to let them run a natural veg period, wich could be quite some time especially in different air quality areas an differing temperatures an humidity an level they are grown at...... If forced to flower sooner it may be triggering a survival mechanism in them....
goingrey
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Some hermie flowers creating a little pollen might not make the brick heavily seeded. Especially if it's just some plants here and there not all plants in the field. Never heard of a fermentation "treatment" causing this kind of change in seeds, interesting concept though.
There are lots of different "brick weed" so there's not one answer for all, like most things with cannabis it depends on a lot of factors. Pressing itself isn't good from a seed point of view. Moist/mold and other forms of bad post harvest handling of the product (tropics is the worst place to keep things, shit molds as you watch it). If kept in high humidity and temperature the weed loses a lot of its zang in days. Keeping it cool and dark prevent the quick degradation some. I think the pressing and mold can "kill" seeds but then they don't germinate.
I don't think the post harvest handling determine sex or in this case intersex. More like poor selections or in most cases no selection. There's lots of intersexed types and some "females" throw one branch male while the rest of the plant express female. It can seed a whole lot and more. If you have 4 plant you can act on it and you can also sort out those seeds when trimming/rolling. If you have 4000 plants you can easily see part of the plot being contaminated with intersex caused pollination. Grow those seeds out and you will see that some will do the same.
Not all brick is the same, some don't have any seed even if you go throug lots of it. Some are riddled with it and those I have never found to be the best. I have grown out some seeds from brick that were pretty stable with male and female expressed and not the obvious "hermie".
The occurance of so much bad brick weed seeded is what makes it very hard to source good seeds. There's a lot of trash hiding the pearls. Best of course would be to befriend some old thai master and get his seeds but that seem even harder to find than a good seed...
Just as a question, what kind of substance/chemical would be able to impact the sex of a cannabis seed? or expression of sex is maybe a safer way to put it.
I don't think the post harvest handling determine sex or in this case intersex. More like poor selections or in most cases no selection. There's lots of intersexed types and some "females" throw one branch male while the rest of the plant express female. It can seed a whole lot and more. If you have 4 plant you can act on it and you can also sort out those seeds when trimming/rolling. If you have 4000 plants you can easily see part of the plot being contaminated with intersex caused pollination. Grow those seeds out and you will see that some will do the same.
Not all brick is the same, some don't have any seed even if you go throug lots of it. Some are riddled with it and those I have never found to be the best. I have grown out some seeds from brick that were pretty stable with male and female expressed and not the obvious "hermie".
The occurance of so much bad brick weed seeded is what makes it very hard to source good seeds. There's a lot of trash hiding the pearls. Best of course would be to befriend some old thai master and get his seeds but that seem even harder to find than a good seed...
Just as a question, what kind of substance/chemical would be able to impact the sex of a cannabis seed? or expression of sex is maybe a safer way to put it.
Daylight hours were I am are the same as where the plants were originally grown. The brickweed here is either from Loas or Cambodia, it all looks pretty much the same.
Old time growers would be scarce now. Less than twenty years ago there was a war on drugs, some ppl killed had small gunga convictions from 10 years ago, so up until a few years ago there was a lot of fear.
Now they are selling seedlings on the side of the road. The grower said it was Hung Golok (Squirrel Tale). He also said for 60 plants 35 would be male or herm.
Overtime I'm sure great local varities will emerge. Southeast Asia has a history of seeds sharing and plant breeding.
Old time growers would be scarce now. Less than twenty years ago there was a war on drugs, some ppl killed had small gunga convictions from 10 years ago, so up until a few years ago there was a lot of fear.
Now they are selling seedlings on the side of the road. The grower said it was Hung Golok (Squirrel Tale). He also said for 60 plants 35 would be male or herm.
Overtime I'm sure great local varities will emerge. Southeast Asia has a history of seeds sharing and plant breeding.
why would you think that xet ,
thailand is famous the world over for its thai stick ,
but i dont see too much mention of commercial export , or raves about the quality of Ethiopian cannabis ,
why would you come to this revelation and what significance does it have to thai cannabis?
thailand is famous the world over for its thai stick ,
but i dont see too much mention of commercial export , or raves about the quality of Ethiopian cannabis ,
why would you come to this revelation and what significance does it have to thai cannabis?
As I posted earlier, there were problems with herms when I previously grew local seeds. Not all were from brick weed, some from close to the Mekong.
Now I've got four local strains going, From 7 plants only one herm and no males. I have a few yet to show sex and will update when they do.
Now I've got four local strains going, From 7 plants only one herm and no males. I have a few yet to show sex and will update when they do.
Mimpi Manis
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Jumped the shark?
sometimes im not sure if we are in english classes or on a cannabis forum ,
oh thats right its the latter ,
speak your mind xet , dont hold back mate , get it off your chest ,
and while your at it throw in a few of your latest cannabis pics ,
specially thai related stuff since that is what we are talking about here on this thread ,
how does ethiopian relate to thai mate ?
without being a smart ass or a put down please since we dont need that crap ..
there may have been a hermie in the patch ,
they likely didnt include it in the brick,
but the other females nearby may have been slightly peppered , producing the odd seed ,
usually farmers dont want any seeds , but the odd hermie amongs thousands of plants with that sort of sativa is often inevitable ...
Yes it is always nice to see stable males and females when growing brick weed, not that it is a guarantee but it’s definitely better than getting 20 females out of 20 seeds. Like you say Donald, they might cut that inter-sexed plant out of the brick or out of the patch but it may already have spread some of its pollen.
