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Pure Thai Seeds?

TheDarkStorm

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Yea won't be the same though because artificial lights vs tropical sun just isn't a thing..


Im happy lookat stuff but I'm well aware one cannot reproduce the tropical environment indoor artificially..
I agree, with different type of quality outdoor in the right area...with a good season.....ive got another landrace aswell...yes hard to get it to perform like it would in it native environment but indoors it still produces a very very high quality ...I know someone else who grows it in a not too good conditions area of the planet outdoors and it comes out trippy for him too....its just that high quality type that gives excellent product if most of its needs are met......as to the laos I wanted you to take a look at it to see if you've come across that type before...as I wanted to know how good it might be before messing with it...so your opinion would be appreciated....they are saying its very very paranoid inducing, racey type stong...but ive herd that before.
 

Donald Mallard

el duck
Veteran
where is the pics/thread darkie ,
id happily suss it out , though not sure what i can tell from the photo really ,
if it looks familiar to what ive grown perhaps ,
sounds like good stuff though with your description ..
 

TheDarkStorm

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where is the pics/thread darkie ,
id happily suss it out , though not sure what i can tell from the photo really ,
if it looks familiar to what ive grown perhaps ,
sounds like good stuff though with your description ..
Il put it up here for you Donald as it not off topic realy....
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Bio boy

Active member
This !!THIS is why I’m hunting for years this is what I am asking every time chasing a high from my teens
this is the 2nd time this month I’ve been lead to think I need true sativas

my first bud I got not hash was airy loose and nothing like rock hard bugs ya know today ,my first sativa I grew at 18 was hiuuge grew out my 1m tent n got damn 25zip was amazing yet was So loose like an Afro perm lol

aomeone Said sativas don’t yield well?? I thaught that’s what they did eh ?got friggin big
 

TheDarkStorm

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yea looks the same if not pretty similar to this laos we got seed of ...

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Looks similar...the leaf shape and and ratio looks a bit different....and it looks like your one has a different overall plant shape with the huge buds top to bottom on your pics were as on my pic the only give that big buds on the top one 3rd the rest seems abit more normal...did they give you any indication on how they smoke Donald...thanks for the snap
 

TheDarkStorm

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This plant and her sister have no smell. I bought it off the side of the road. Could it be CBD? View attachment 18791378
Looks like what theyare calling squirrel tail...could just be something thats mixed with wild hemp...let it develop a bit more then pic some buds off and let them dry naturaly and see if there is any scent....ive seen a few more modern thais that dont really have no real scent till quite late in development....keep an eye on it as it looks nice structurally.
 

romanoweed

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for me @TheDarkStorm your fat thai looks like one of these Chocolate Thai area Plants.

You can find some hemp-inclusions looking at some thais sent to phylos.
In no way do i wanna take those readings as facual.. but i still mention it.

Simple as that.

I think that your just astonished about the gigantism Traits that undoubtedly appeared in SE Asia.
Cant say if they are hybredised, but yeah, gigantism happens, its a fact.

Actually its relatively rare today. Wasent it quiet common in the 70s?
I would say the extraordinary examples of gigantism have become a bit rarer .

oh, can you remeber in the Thaistick book, a guy described walking into a Thaistick Village where everyone grew it, Buds as Big as an Forearm?

I tell you the science:
The science is that Plants in Tropics from a given Species tend to grow higher than in colder climates.
Why that is i cant say, but thats a common thought of scientists.

The common Nettles you have in backyard are thought to be relatively close related to a Tree in the tropics.
Things grow big in Tropics, /small in cold Climate.
Especially when man selects for it for Hemp.

(the greener Color than in the 70s Lines with golden hue, stemms IMHO from how the people stopped or changed selection after the 70s) (or lately i went back to the question that Climatechange does that???).


Those are my vague Guesses, and hints and bits i heard.
 
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romanoweed

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Asian Fantasy is for sale as fem seeds.
Just google this old Heirloom suspected to contain SE Asain Genetics and eventually heybridized, but well respected Heirloom. Google : Asian Fantasy Cannabis buy
 

TheDarkStorm

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for me @TheDarkStorm your fat thai looks like one of these Chocolate Thai area Plants.

You can find some hemp-inclusions looking at some thais sent to phylos.
In no way do i wanna take those readings as facual.. but i still mention it.

Simple as that.

I think that your just astonished about the gigantism Traits that undoubtedly appeared in SE Asia.
Cant say if they are hybredised, but yeah, gigantism happens, its a fact.

Actually its relatively rare today. Wasent it quiet common in the 70s?
I would say the extraordinary examples of gigantism have become a bit rarer .

oh, can you remeber in the Thaistick book, a guy described walking into a Thaistick Village where everyone grew it, Buds as Big as an Forearm?

I tell you the science:
The science is that Plants in Tropics from a given Species tend to grow higher than in colder climates.
Why that is i cant say, but thats a common thought of scientists.

The common Nettles you have in backyard are thought to be relatively close related to a Tree in the tropics.
Things grow big in Tropics, /small in cold Climate.
Especially when man selects for it for Hemp.

(the greener Color than in the 70s Lines with golden hue, stemms IMHO from how the people stopped or changed selection after the 70s) (or lately i went back to the question that Climatechange does that???).


Those are my vague Guesses, and hints and bits i heard.
Thanks for the reply romanoweed....you might be right..it could be wat your calling gigantism...or what might be wat they say is faciated...could be just that specific plant and not so much with others....il have to check the line out to see how it comes out and see if all the plants are like that....or it could be something has been added to it...but that might not be the case as lower down it looks like a more normal laos line...and defo has the long slim droping leaves and lots of them like traditional laos...and tons of tiny foxtails wich cus of the picture arnt as clearly visable..but they seem to be whats making up the majority of the bud shap....il know more after more investigation...il keep you updated......
The old thai stick plants in fields in the old pictures...somewhat resemble that that current grow picture I put up of the thai plant(page 11)....the guy has even beter ones ive seen then that, that are really gold even on the buds with that traditional Christmas tree shape...and spiralling top cola....with the picture I put up I also noticed how branches shoot out from right by the ground from the base of the plant...we dont see that much now...the only plant ive really seen do something like that is the supposedly 1950's thai stick line called old mother sativa which normally starts growing out new branches from underground right by the base of the plant...interesting to note...im looking into checking out the thaistick lines from that source now so we will se how they come out but the guy has described the plants give a very interesting scent and taste profile which you rarely hear of now...so we will see what pops up.
 
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TheDarkStorm

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i changed the colorbalance a bit, so now it resembles a bit more a chocolate Thai, lol
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Now the golden and slight red hues come out.

I dont mean this ironic, just neded to talk about things
I have got chocolate thai stick...what ive got gives all mutated leaves and looks kind of blue rather than green....smells like rotting meat coffee and old super silver haze strong but theyve not gone into bloom yet so still checking those out. I think Donald had a look at some chocolate thai aswell....what wer the ones you checked out like Donald.
 

romanoweed

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I see mostly a Thai-vibe in it.

I dont think hybridisation alone, say with a fat Afghani will bring out such gigantism..

The only hybridisation that would bring that out is with foreign Hemp.

But since SE Asia had Hemp culture, i think thats whats going on inthere.

And be assured, If folks didnt just select for Hemp only, the bud can still be very good, i dont mean Hemp is always weak..
Like modern Breeding in Agriculture, it sometimes manages to yeald better, but keep the Taste. Alltho thats rarely Agricultures focus.. But it happens.
 

romanoweed

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Look thats Cambodian Haze x Amnesia Haze.
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I wanna point out that the Cambodian Haze Part wich mostly Cambodian has similar traits. (i cant find the gigantic pics of this 3/4 Cambodian 1/4 Haze pure)

And Reeferman who collected it said he collected it in a Cambodian Streetmarket, and he supects it was a slightly hempy cultivar.

The same gigantic Buds/ slendor Leaves look..
 

TheDarkStorm

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I see mostly a Thai-vibe in it.

I dont think hybridisation alone, say with a fat Afghani will bring out such gigantism..

The only hybridisation that would bring that out is with foreign Hemp.

But since SE Asia had Hemp culture, i think thats whats going on inthere.

And be assured, If folks didnt just select for Hemp only, the bud can still be very good, i dont mean Hemp is always weak..
Like modern Breeding in Agriculture, it sometimes manages to yeald better, but keep the Taste. Alltho thats rarely Agricultures focus.. But it happens.
Adding hemp usually adds more stem, less branching and reduced bud structure as it usually a multipurpose plant most used to get oil from leaf and for its main stem for fibre used in many things...so adding hemp to a full blown extreme south east asian sativa shouldn't really increase the prouduct we mostly use the plant for eg the buds...it should do the opposite really....hemp is usually one tall pole...can grow very tall with just a tick single stem and very little secondary branching and very little bud....most of that cbd hemp you see round Europe with big budds and lots of branching and scents and flavours has been bred by adding the drug type plants to them...usually stocky huge budded multi branching types.
Adding hemp should also reduce thc potency and the aggressiveness south east asian drug types are know for...it should calm that down rather than making it more racy and aggressive.
 
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TheDarkStorm

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Look thats Cambodian Haze x Amnesia Haze.
View attachment 18791579

I wanna point out that the Cambodian Haze Part wich mostly Cambodian has similar traits. (i cant find the gigantic pics of this 3/4 Cambodian 1/4 Haze pure)

And Reeferman who collected it said he collected it in a Cambodian Streetmarket, and he supects it was a slightly hempy cultivar.

The same gigantic Buds/ slendor Leaves look..
Thats what usually happens when you put two drug type plants together...the vigour will become enhanced and the plant becomes better than both parents depending on the genetics used....it will be stronger, bigger, grow with more vigourr ect..itl be almost like the resulting plants are on steroids...this is best observed in the first generation with following generations very unlikely to replicate to that degree.
I think that cambohaze was reefs version of kalimist...but didn't come out the same with out the f1 c5haze
 
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