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Punto rojo selection and repro

bigherb

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I got a new blower, new 300w LED light and some new fans set up in my old tent after I cleaned it out. Then I neemed the crap out of the female seed plants and got them in the tent and snapped this photo. The males will go in tomorrow. I’m using an 11:30 / 12:30 light cycle for now.
Looking good brother

Much Respect on this project and through documenting

How many weeks flower are you in ?

How much height do you have in your tent ?

I’m on Week 9 of Flowering in my Original Haze Hunt , some are still stretching

1luvbigherb
 

right

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Idk I bought a number of different orders over a span of time. Also from attitudeseeds I think, and 1 stop seed shop.

The only thing I bought directly from cannabiogen (double jam ) was confiscated, and what I got was a letter saying it was confiscated at jfk Airport. Or what ever the airport is in nyc
 

kokomarin

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I was very young,under 21,but high is so intesive rollercoster with
brain,90min,like rabbit in eagle hands,visuals with open eays, even some past-future film sequence,in my case war pics,what was my future in thet moment.
Most religios in sense of
Mother nature.
Havy narcotic and winds
of energy in same time,so tropical weed can be like mamba poison or storm in the head.
But from growers in black africa,muslims have seeds excange every year in Mecca,so weed can be hybridazed
long time in muslims areas of Nigeria,nobody knows,but high with cartoon visuals inducers,in waves,connected with reality,spiritual,or amphetamine like is common there.
Only few times pre90 I try equal or even better,one of them is jamaican weed and one columbian,punto rojo.
I was born and rise in yugoslavia,hash from casablanca was on the streets regularly,pak and afgan,lebanon becca sometimes.
Mombasa was main port for import weed.
But,only in my memory,every thing including state fall apart in few years of war.
 

flower~power

~Star~Crash~
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Everybody's looking out for him
'Cause they know Red satisfies
Little girls love to listen to him
Sing and tell sweet lies (Oh, Panama)
But when things get too confusing, honey
You're better off in bed
And I'll be searching all the joints in town for
Panama Red
 

OldCoolSativa

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Looking good brother

Much Respect on this project and through documenting

How many weeks flower are you in ?

How much height do you have in your tent ?

I’m on Week 9 of Flowering in my Original Haze Hunt , some are still stretching

1luvbigherb
I can't really say how many weeks in flower the seed plants are because they were outside until a few days after the equinox then I put them in a 4x4 tent on an 11.5-hr light cycle. I think the tent is 80" tall (6.7 ft). Good luck with your OHz.
 

OldCoolSativa

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Happy to report that I now have rooted backups of all but one of the punto rojo plants. PR #3 never rooted, although there's a clone still hanging on 28 days after I cut it. No big deal, because #3 is the fastest male, and therefore, least desireable of the four in my opinion. I have already removed him from the seed-making tent because I want most of the seeds to come from the later males. Here's a pic of the backups...back row is backups of backups.

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Also happy to report that in a couple days I will start flowering the 8 punto rojo females along with two NH x THH clones courtesy of @flower~power. I may only end up flowering 7 of them because I'm not sure if the #1 clone has actually rooted, even though I know the backup has. The ones that rooted early will get huge, because they've already been vegging for 2+ weeks. There should be plenty of room for these plants in my new 4' x 8' tent. I'm flowering rooted clones in 3.5-gal pots with organic soil. Soil's a bit hot right now for tropical sativas, which is why I'm getting dark green leaves and a touch of tip burn.

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There's a Colombian orgy going on in the 4x4 tent as the three males (front row) are having their way with the 8 ladies. They all look happy and healthy, despite being rootbound.

PR seed plants 1001.jpg
 

Lugo

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I'm selecting it in the direction of pure, long-flowering sativas, quality of effect over fast flowering and yield, in contrast to 40 years of cannabis breeding for commercial purposes. This project has 32 permutations of M:F pairings; that's a gene pool that's 32 times broader than a 1:1 pairing. It's the best I can do with my limited time and resources, as I'm gonna have to crowd these 12 seed plants into a 4x4 tent for the seed run.
12 PRs in a 4x4...wow man, respect 🙏
 

Maria Sanchez

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OMG! How many hundreds or thousands of seeds are you going to get out of that tent?!?!
Are you looking for that 10,000 (or is it 100,000) sample size to chose from? :D
 

OldCoolSativa

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If all goes well I think I could end up with a half kilo or more of seeds. That translates to about 40,000 seeds. I’ve been wondering what this line would look like after a couple years of selecting the longest flowering females from a selection from 50-100 seeds each season. But that’s a shitload of work.

I’ll be happy if I can get some primo Colombian smoke and turn a bunch of people on to the kind of smoke I enjoyed in the 1970s.
 

Piff_cat

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So I got some Punto Rojo seeds from ringtail canyon derived from this batch I believe. There was a very late flowering red male that was twisted and red at germination.
This male grew pistils at the terminal ends of branches and seeded itself. I've seen these type of plants before in the outback viet. I actually managed to germinate one of the selfed male seeds...

and it turns out to be crazy vigorous female which adds branches and nodes with ease. Every physical trait hints toward polyploidy or a recombinant genotype

. It's pretty low odds for an
xy x xy mating to produce a female. Genes located on a male sex chromosome are called hemizygous because they never have a partner in nature since yy isn't natural.
But in this situation all the Y hemizygous genes now have a partner. I know alot of bigherb research on haze dealt with unusual pheno spread after a Punto Rojo backcross. I think all these situations are related and fit into a larger haze/satuva genetic group

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Lugo

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So I got some Punto Rojo seeds from ringtail canyon derived from this batch I believe. There was a very late flowering red male that was twisted and red at germination.
This male grew pistils at the terminal ends of branches and seeded itself. I've seen these type of plants before in the outback viet. I actually managed to germinate one of the selfed male seeds...

and it turns out to be crazy vigorous female which adds branches and nodes with ease. Every physical trait hints toward polyploidy or a recombinant genotype

. It's pretty low odds for an
xy x xy mating to produce a female. Genes located on a male sex chromosome are called hemizygous because they never have a partner in nature since yy isn't natural.
But in this situation all the Y hemizygous genes now have a partner. I know alot of bigherb research on haze dealt with unusual pheno spread after a Punto Rojo backcross. I think all these situations are related and fit into a larger haze/satuva genetic group

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Looking solid.
 

rolandomota

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Your going to be swimming in seeds. This is from One fully seeded plant that was 5 feet tall and it still needs about a quarter of the seeds added to this bag. I named it 23 Ski-doo. I don't know what a ski-doo is but it was a word stuck in my head from tv
The possibility of dad's is abc /drunken bastard and malawi s1 from Colorado sativas
 

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bigherb

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I can't really say how many weeks in flower the seed plants are because they were outside until a few days after the equinox then I put them in a 4x4 tent on an 11.5-hr light cycle. I think the tent is 80" tall (6.7 ft). Good luck with your OHz.
Much Respect

I like your style brother

Similar situation as mine, which is what peaked my interest in comparing to OHaze

I’m posted watching to see how they start to push flower

Currently at week 10 and it’s like the show has just begun


1luvbigherb
 
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