Project EDEN - the COCO-COOP

[Rosy Cheeks]

Awesome garden Bone. Sorry about your spider mites I had an issue earlier with the mites, but they were only on the TomHill Haze, the Cascadia and Johhy Blaze were not touched.... I don't know why.

Pests concentrate primarily on the genetically less resistant, sick or stressed plants, and move on to the others when there's no more room for expansion. You get the impression some plants aren't hit, but they'll get hit eventually, if you don't stop the mites.

I used a spray with botanical pyrethrins in it. The spray can be used on edible plants up to the day of harvest. I am not that trusting, so I used it about 1/2 way through flowering. The mites are gone.

Wow, you got entirely rid of them with only pyrethrines? I've never managed to do that, and not short of trying.

I guess one overkill shock treatment with some follow-ups could do it, before they develop a resistance.

But if you leave as much as a single female in a dark corner, they're back in style a month later.

 

[Bacchus]

... You get the impression some plants aren't hit, but they'll get hit eventually, if you don't stop the mites.

Wow, you got entirely rid of them with only pyrethrines? I've never managed to do that, and not short of trying.

But if you leave as much as a single female in a dark corner, they're back in style a month later.

I think the higher humidity 70% + helped to weaken them. I have harvested the infested plant now and am watching for any new attacks on the new flowering plants.

Yes, those females hiding in the wings are what scare me

good luck Bone on your flowers. I hope the mites are slowed enough for you to get a decent harvest.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

thanks dudes seems there will be some buds in the end that might be smokeable

but its true - you can only get rid of the mites using a systematic longterm poison ( so it covers a few whole life cycles ) - but i wouldnt use that where i have the growroom - too close to where i sleep.

there is some interesting profesional products i can get hold of - but its kind of a trip to go there - but anyway there is nice nicotine based comercial products

ill try that some day

peace all!

 

[Raco]

Awesome!!
bone,
try that Compo product I told you :wink:

 

[Guest]

How's it goin boney? Here's my current coco grow, dude. Ya said to keep you updated - well...

3 Kali Most
3 F-13
1 Foxtail Sativa

Water - water reclaimed from dehumidifier 50/50 with tap - ec before nutes 0.24 - ec after nutes 1.17
Light 2x400w HPS, 1x600wHPS - Total 1400w HPS
B'cuzz coco used straight out of the bag with no rinse
3x6 tray - recirc/30gal res.
Canna Coco A=6mL/gal, B=6mL/gal
PK 13/14 at second week of flower and again last week


Seeds popped 9/21 - Flipped to 12/12 9/23 - Currently day 52 of flower if ya count from the flip. Actually saw signs of flowering on 10/13 so I'm watching the trichs on these.

F-13s could be ready any day as they go from 7-9 weeks but is that from flip or flower???? I'm watching the trichs and they're still clear and adding on more.

In the group photo, the Kali Most are the ones in the back of the tray and I've had the tops and side branches tied down for a couple of weeks now. I bend, snap, double back, and whatever else it takes to keep the things out of the lights. No matter what I do, the plants don't show a single sign of stressing. Kick Ass plants!

The GN Foxtail Sativa is in the foreground and is lighter in color than the F-13s and structurally they're a lot alike. I mean a lot alike! I expected the Foxtail Sativa to be taller as it's listed as pure sativa. Looks like a hybrid to me.

The F-13's... One of the pictures is of a perfect plant, in my opinion. She's #1 and is just behind and to the right of the Foxtail. #2 is almost directly behind (in the shot) the Foxtail and doesn't have the purple of #1 but is just behind in yield. #3 is the most barren plant I've ever seen. I think I've got 3 phenos here - definitely 2 phenos and maybe a fleshy headed mutant, hehe.

Anyhoo...

The group


Kali Most under the lights




Just some bud shots










Thanks for letting me stick these in here dude.

Peace my brother

 

[bonecarver_OG]

hehe raco i will as soon as i find it hehe

mojo - thats awesome dude u only give 6 ml /4,5 liters? wow they looks awesome !!

 

[Guest]

Damn your plants look good, man. Nice job on the grows.

mojo - thats awesome dude u only give 6 ml /4,5 liters? wow they looks awesome !!

Thanks boney. Yeah man, I mix my tap water with my reclaimed dehumidifier water 50/50. My ec of the ro water is 0.02 and after I put the tap water in the ec is 0.25. I mix nutes 5 gal at a time and after adding 30mL of "A" and 30mL of "B" the ec I feed at is 1.3 when the plants are at full bore going balls to the walls.

I'm gonna make moms of each of these plants till I've cured and smoked the bud. I'm on a quest dude. hehe. I've tried to secure as many pure and potent strains as I have been able over this past year. My goal as I bought the seeds was that purity would win out over popularity. I'm going to be growing out some fairly popular strains but I'm also going to be growing some strains that I don't here so much about any more. And some of them are shitty producers but the bud is the bomb. I'll eventually end up with some pretty cool crosses I think. One of these days, "God willing and the creek don't rise" I'll come up with the perfect bud for me.

I'm definitely going to SCROG any more of the big sativas after seeing the Kali Most explode like it did. One of the F-13s has a top cola the size of a small side bud dude. It's going to give me terrible results in the yield department but if I smoke it and it blows the top of my head off, I'm gonna make some plans to use it for a cross.

Sorry to take up so much space here dude but I've been smoking some of that White Widow I grew out last spring and right now I'm not sure how much I've written, if it makes any sense, or how to end it, lmfao.

Peace bro bone

 

[bonecarver_OG]

dude write all u want its cool!

i use in flowering around 25 ml a and b for 10 liters of water! its amazing how different the nute needs are for different plants

 

[Guest]

dude write all u want its cool!

i use in flowering around 25 ml a and b for 10 liters of water! its amazing how different the nute needs are for different plants

Yeah, it is. But 6mL/gal of each seems to be the ceiling for me. It seems to be the max I can give any of them. I burn the tips if I go any higher than that. It may be the diff in meters, ya think? My ppm reading is 930 at 1.3 ec.

Two months into the grow and I've not even had to change the res water. pH is holding at 5.7-5.8 and the plants seem to be eating pretty much what I'm feeding. First drain water out of one of the pots as it's collected gave an ec reading this morning of 1.3 with a pH of 5.8. My water measures 0.25 without nutes in it so I'm really feeding the plants right at 1.0 ec.

Coco is so friggin cool! I'll never use anything else unless I can afford to experiment and lose a few plants. Soil makes the cured bud taste better I've heard. I've never been that discriminating a connoisseur of smoke when it comes to getting my brain blasted, hehe. If I still care what the bud tastes like after the first toke, I need to grow a more potent strain, in my humble opinion. I grow it, cure it the best I can, and smoke the shit out of it. It's never nearly as harsh as the Mexican brick I smoked back in the 60's. That shit was strong but I swear I coughed up a lung one night just before we cruised the freeways at 20mph.

The Kali are a little hungry but that's ok. They stretch so damned much. I can't seem to keep plants low, lmfao.

It's alright though. It takes the same amount of time to grow a tree as it does a bonsai. And I get a lot more stash from it.

Peace bro and thanks

 

[bonecarver_OG]

i dont know what low plants are either i think in my case its the fact i only use 600W - and that is maybe not all enough for the big space im using makes tall plants

nute usage is different from plant to plant - but i think too its better to go low than too high - it seems nowadays i cant atlest go much over 28ml a+b / 10 liters without burning.

also when i start with PK 13-14 i drop the levels of A+B - i dont know ec levels since i never used one

peace mate

 

[bonecarver_OG]

i made some jelly hash yesterday

ssh x ptk bho mixed with blond moroccan hash

 

[Marijuanaut]

nice how much did you get of the good stuff ?

 

[bonecarver_OG]

harvested the super-g today completelly mite-free !!

very soon the LDS is going to get cut

 

[Guest]

Cheers to ye boney on the no mites issue. Only prob I've had with bugs is gnats. Hit em with bt in the res to take care of any larvae and hung a no pest strip for the adults. I just see a couple fly around when the water comes on.

My grow is at 55 days of flower now and the F-13 trichs haven't even clouded up. Harvest for them is listed at 49-63 days. Threads I've read lend me to believe they should be finishing about day 61 if other growers' experiences are anything to judge by. They're going to have to hurry to make that.

My Foxtail Sativa is still a ways off and the Kali Most... well they're gonna take a bit, hehe.

Peace boney

 

[bonecarver_OG]

no pest strips are forbidden in europe - they sound effective though

F13 sounds interesting i never trust the flowering times stated by breeders - many times its not realistic at all hehe

i harvested this far all plants that allow it - 2 lds, 1 Belladona x sh, and one super G.

got 3 cascadias left - and the JD and mozambique - are quite far from finishing

i hope i can vacum today the most part of the plants/growroom - to get hold of the stray bugs - and to clean the buds - and hopefully they can finish ok

peace all

 

[Guest]

I hear ya boney. I've been putting trichs underneath the scope every other day and the F-13 look like they're clouding up. A few have started turning amber. Very few. I'll wait.

No pest strips aren't allowed in Europe??? Maybe I can send you a fly swat, hehe. It's hours of cheap entertainment for the whole family, heheh.

I don't know how effective they are, man. I've still got a few gnats buzzing around. I've got to hope I'm gradually winning the battle against them. They're not swarming and I seriously think I'm holding my own against them. Plants seem to be doing ok.

I've got to clean my grow area too. Seems like towards the end of each grow, it begins to look like shite.

Peace

 

[Bacchus]

The damn mites......arrrrrrrrgggggggggggggg

I harvested a Cascadia, Johhny Blaze and Tom Hill Haze with good volumn of smoke. The HAze had the most mites, but I seemed to knock them down with pytherium and high humidity. Or at least keep them in check.

I did learn a hard lesson. I put new clones in the flower room before I had finished harvesting and now the 3 new clones(3rd week in flower) are covered in MOFO mites.

So, in the trash they went For one thing I did not want to constantly fight the mites and the other is that I have 3 healthy clones and 4 Congo and 4 Nepal hybrids that will need to go into flower in the next few weeks. So I sacrificed a few for the health of the rest. I did get a nice healthy harvest from the first round. But, the real harvest comes with running clones, which are allowed to get big before flowering.IMO.

Bone - have you made any hash out of the Super-Gs yet???

 

[Guest]

Never had a single mite, i am very lucky I guess.

 

[Guest]

Last mites I saw were 30 years ago on one of my Norfolk Pines. Killed the plant. Tenacious little shitz.

None on my grows though, knock on wood.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

here in the spanish heat the mites seem to thrive..