Pro Mix hp help please?

[3legdog]

Thanks buddy i wondered how well the clearex worked & feedback is Great ! I also soak my BX, worm castings & perlite for a week & mix it around every day. I seem to have much less stressed plants this way. I also elevated transplant (BOG style) & have had great success doing this. Thanks again yf 3ld

 

[Gamera]

i grow in small containers with heavy food ,, so i water, feed ,, water , water , water , clearx , feed ,,

Pretty much the same but I'm using the GH version of Clearex (whatever it's called)
water-feed-water-feed-clearex-water-feed-water-add chaos-water-repeat:

Haven't tried Flora Nova.

 

[Guest]

I plant seeds in 3" pots of ProMix moistened w/ Liquid Karma - distilled water solution (1 tsp per gallon), after seeds have soaked overnight in similar solution. I then cover the pots w/ plastic wrap, and put them under flourescents in a warm place. I get nearly 100% germ rate this way.

MG

 

[Guest]

Ok I just bought some pro mix.. I will add more perlite, As well as some earth worm castings, and some plant starter from piece of mind.. I believe its fox farms.. It worked good from me already so ill stick with it to begin.. If there is anything else let me know.. peace..

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[Gamera]

Sac you're going to have to feed regularly with complete nutrients for hydro cuz PM has only a tiny bit if any. What kind of ProMix did you get?

 

[3legdog]

Good thread...good info !

Good thread...good info !

The plant starter from Fox Farm has all sorts of goodies in it just be careful as i ve heard it can be 'Hot'....or make you mix too hot especially if ya don't water it well & let it sit first. You may already know all this but i figured i share my lil knowledge. Gamera's right also saco as you'll need a full balanced feeding program after the first few weeks....the wc & FF will carry ya a in the begining but a full spectrum nutr. program will make everybody happy & lush. Take care all & have a nice weed-kend ! Yf 3ld

 

[Guest]

This IS a good thread!

ProMix is considered to be a neutral growing medium, with no measureable nutes. Peat moss, perlite, vermiculite, lime (to keep ph @ 7.0), and a wetting agent, are all that is in ProMix.

Personally, I prefer to grow in a neutral medium, because it is easier to control nute levels, IMHO. I don't add stuff like blood meal, bone meal, worm castings, bat and seabird guanos etc. I just use liquid organic nutes everytime I water. I feel that a 90 day grow is not long enough for many organics to break down in a substrate that doesn't initially contain the micro-organisms that are usually found in soil. Also, if you fortify the ProMix with high nitrogen organics like blood meal, worm castings, and some guanos, nitrogen levels may be less than ideal during flower.

I like to think of the ProMix like the water in a hydro setup, where you are in total control of specific nute levels for all stages of the grow.

I know that many reputable growers and breeders fortify the ProMix with dry organics, and that's fine....there are many proven grow methods and formulas out there. I am not saying that other methods won't grow outstanding weed... just offering my own opinions here.

I have the specific nute formulas that I use in ProMix posted in this thread, if anyone is interested. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=16307

Good luck to all in your grow! MG

 

[3legdog]

Excellent opinions mastergrow as just last year i dropped the blood meal/bone meal. I also recently stopped using greensand & have still maintained excellent results. However the worm castings(.1-.1-.1) break down easily, not at all like bone meal for example which may do nothing an entire grow as it hasen't even broken down by then usually from all my readings. I stick w/ just the addition of the wc & perlite to the BX & my results are as good as ever. I just had to re-evaluate & update my nutrient program a bit, but very little actually & really realized how usless things like bone m. & blood m. are....all my opinions.

As long as you are/have a good solid full balanced nutrient program anything can be tailored using BX...imo. In general Pro Mix BX is just flat out great substrate & i will continue to but my monthly bales....shit i might actually look up who owns this company & buy a bit of stock...they sure been getn my loot for years . Peace all & smoke um if ya got um ! Go
Hokies Peace all 3ld

 

[Guest]

Hey 3ld, put me down for a few shares if ya find that stock...lol. I'm good for at least 2 bales a year!

I use my blood/bone meal and greensand outside...where it performs best, IMHO. Worm castings are ok to use indoors...good stuff, but I still prefer the more consistant and highly "digestable" liquid nutes. Besides, adding WCs to my feeding regimens would be "nute redundant", and just something else to buy.

I'm glad they work well for you and others though! Different strokes...aint it great!

MG

 

[Gamera]

I first tried the HP and I think things grew faster in it, but I had to water so much I went to BX. I think I'll use HP in the summer and BX in the cooler months. I do 1 gal. bags packed in tight. I use a large aluminum ice scoop that fits perfectly in the 1 gallon bags. The ph is rock solid in this stuff. Master Grow I checked out your thread and it's excellent. The lamp thing is cool too. Careful when you water!

 

[Guest]

My Pro mix is just pro mix.. No BX or HP or anything like that.. All i see is it says professional on it.. lol.. the bail is in a orangish yellowish bag/bail.. So i should wet my soil and let it sit out at least a week before putting any young plants or clones in it?
Good info guys.. Thanx to all that are sharing their knowledge.. 3LD thanx for your tip.. I did know about that but thanx anyhow. I really like that stuff when i mixed it i went 3/4 of what the box says and i was fine.. no burn or defieciencies.. peace..

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[Twist]

Do you use sweat with calmag and what kind of pro mix is at homedepo?
Twist

 

[Guest]

Thank you for your kind words Gamera, and I'm pleased that you liked it. Forgive me though.... I feel like I am taking over your thread , but that is not my intention. I usually get MY questions answered here at the IC forums, so I usually just "chime in" when I think I can answer someone elses. I know you fully understand.

I'm not sure about what Home Depot carries Twist, but there are a lot of generic "ProMixes" out there. In fact, I'm using a generic one now, and it actually has more perlite in it than the name brand.

Don't worry about the whole BX, HP, and no-name thing...they're all pretty similar. Just check the pkg for ingredients if you're not sure. Peat moss, perlite, vermiculite, lime, and possibly a wetting agent is what you're looking for. Some no-names don't have wetting agents, which is no prob for me, but if you must have one...just add a drop of non-phosphate dishsoap to your plant water. Adding xtra perlite is always a good idea too, IMHO.

Hi Sackoweed, just moisten the mix w/ water or nute solution, and you're good to go. Never heard anything about setting out moistened mix for a week before planting?!? By coincidence, I recently DID read a post somewhere on another thread (which I don't happen to agree with) suggesting that Earth Juice nute solution should be set out before using though. Were you maybe thinking of that? I haven't read this entire thread, so if I missed something pertinent to your question...I apologize for that.

Take care and be nice y'all MG

 

[Gamera]

Mastergrow-This thread belongs to all of us. It's about sharing and learning and I appreciate any input. The reason I started this thread was I had problems when I started with ProMix and organics. I'd used soil and organics for several years with great success but Promix looked and is better for me. I basically switched to GH Flora as per Rezdog and never figured out the original problem, but the GH is working quite well and is easy. I might go back to organics some day so the input here is valuable.

 

[3legdog]

My persoanl experiences

My persoanl experiences

MG the EJ line does need to sit before it works worth a damn imvho. I have been using it for several years & many different ways & it works the Absolute best if you let it sit for say 3-5 days then bubble it for 24hrs before use. Of course as you said diff. things work for diff. people & i personally will never pour EJ over my plants right after i mix it. Did that for months w/ crappy results & it barely even fertilized my ladies. Now the stuff has a much better(highr) ph level after sitting although i still have to raise it a little.

Also im the 1 who firmly believes in letting my BX, w.c., & extra perlite sit for a week saturated w/ plain water before i use it. Since you use just the Pro Mix i suppose it makes no real difference to you as you do all you ferting while watering. I also believe there is a big difference between the BX & the Depots cheap no name stuff. Ive gone through dozens of bales of each & the cheap knock offs' are ok if you don't mind pulling out the boo sticks ...etc...they do work ok don't get me wrong but i personally will spend the extra few coins on the BX. As you said somewhere what ever works for ya & theres no ill intent here just my experiences & opinions...so everyone enjoy the reast of the weekend & be safe . Yf 3ld

btw theres lot's of great info on the EJ line & best ways to use it over at OG .....also lots on soil mixes or semi-soil mixes as i use. Best of luck all

 

[Guest]

Hi ya !

I have heard about the EJ ph lowering thing from several different sources, so I know that there's something to it...it's just that I have not experienced it personally.

Two grows ago, I used EJ pretty much exclusively with 7.0 ph water and ProMix, and my ending ph was 6.7.

You're right about the twigs in the generic stuff 3ld...I pulled enough out of some bales to make a campfire! LOL The quality varies alot between generic brands too.

I live in a very rural area where I have to drive about 40 miles to the nearest nursery (and a small one at that). I feel lucky just to be able to get ANY form of ProMix, and I sure don't get a selection. About the only time I get the real deal, is when I'm visiting family and friends in the "big town"....about 110 miles away. I still wouldn't trade my 25 acres of woods for a luxury condo in town...so what if it's a mile to my mailbox!
Peace.
MG

 

[3legdog]

Right on brother i wish it was a mile to my mailbox . I suppose 1/8 mile will have to do...lol(i live on many acres also). The closest hydro store is 100miles, & often do find myself buying the cheap pro-mix at the depot when they have it. They run out of even perlite this time a year & do not order more....unfortunatly. I try & stock up when i visit family & friends. You take care & again this is a very good thread Gamera & hope yaz don't mind my rambln'. Peace all 3ld


btw i wouldn't trade my country spot for any condo ...even in Manhattn ! Ben there & done that ...past it now & can't ever imagine going back

edit: forgot to mention when you used the EJ 2 grows back & your run-off was upper 6s thats to be expected. Regardless of what you pour through plain pro-mix the run-off will always tend to be high...being a Nuetral medium as you mentioned. The problem i found is that my ladies wern't uptakn their diets right so i checked the ph of my nutrient solution before i used it & the EJ has things in the uppr 4s ph when ya 1st mix it. Sitting a few days helps to stabilize/raise it & even then i have to bring it up to 6.4 so i can get my plants to actually eat what im feedn them. Again just my experiences... pez out for today yf 3ld

 

[Sleepy]

hi, all...i started using promix BX after reading this thread...just want to say "thanks".

anyone using the 'new' one...Promix BX with micorhizzae??

 

[Pothead Pete]

Hi all.....

Hi all.....

just want to reply that Pro Mix HP stands for Pro Mix HIGH POROSITY....which means for a few extra bucks you get extra perlite added. I have also been using the HP for about two years now in every size pot imagineable and have had little to no problems. I am using organic beds a la soma and add dolomite lime , (JamaicanFlowering) bat guano, and worm castings directly to my beds. I also use a two part organic additive...Gro Tek"Fusion" which has all sorts of goodies in it. I also use "Sweet" by botanicaire throughout flower until the last two weeks. I also add liquid Karma twice during flower to give me an added edge. I use Advanced Nutrients Big Bud in weeks 2,3 and 4. Weeks 5 and 6 Advanced Nutrients overdrive is also added. And for my flush I use Advanced Nutrients "Final Phase" for the last 7 to 10 days of flower.

 

[Capt. Crip]

Promix for me please.....

Promix for me please.....

Heres a link to the recipe I use with Promix perlite and castings...
Hers a link to an easy mix and nute program using Flora Nova/Pure Blend.....
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=18530
Take care be safe.........................CC