Price of Electricity

[Ca++]

Cali power is insanely expensive. A small 5kw operation is 1k$ a month easy..

Add 50% and you have the UK (based on 4kw being 12/12 and 1kw veg)

You are looking around 50 cents per gram. 50p in the UK.

500 per Kg. However it's worth 2000$ so there is still money to be made. Though I'm a bit disgusted that someone in cali isn't using the sun. Perhaps if they paid the 800$ we do in the UK, they might think again. It depends on the cost of warehousing vs outdoor. Some won't like this, but I don't think indoor should be allowed, where there is literally no need to be using finite energy reserves for 100% lighting coverage. Grow in the sun, and for real prime quality, grow under glass with supplemental lighting as needed. There is no logic to having a roof and lighting because of it.

 

[Hammerhead]

Add 50% and you have the UK (based on 4kw being 12/12 and 1kw veg)

You are looking around 50 cents per gram. 50p in the UK.

500 per Kg. However it's worth 2000$ so there is still money to be made. Though I'm a bit that someone in cali isn't using the sun. Perhaps if they paid the 800$ we do in the UK, they might think again. It depends on the cost of warehousing vs outdoor. Some won't like this, but I don't think indoor should be allowed, where there is literally no need to be using finite energy reserves for 100% lighting coverage. Grow in the sun, and for real prime quality, grow under glass with supplemental lighting as needed. There is no logic to having a roof and lighting because of it.

Not all who live in Cali can grow outdoors. Lots of people here don't have the luxury of a backyard. We work with what we have. What disgusting is to be so small-minded to think every person in Cali can grow outdoors lol.

 

[Ca++]

If you were talking about a percy grow, that could be different. 5kw should be making $75,000 a year though. How does that leave somebody no choice.

 

[Hammerhead]

If you were talking about a percy grow, that could be different. 5kw should be making $75,000 a year though. How does that leave somebody no choice.

LMAO, You have no clue how to run a business .. That is very clear. 98% of small batch quality growers are not a hyped Cookies brand. Small batch is less than 20 plants. None make profits like that. My garden is geared towards seeds not vending flowers. I spend more than I've ever made. Keeping any canna garden going is not just the Electrical bill. You seem to have issues with people not growing outdoors in Cali and aren't about the money more than you do about the thread subject. It's never been about the $$ for lots of us. I love what I do. I'm pushing 70 years old.. Another kid looking for drama. Stay in your own lane chad.

 

[Frosty Bottoms]

bro, things arent that bad in california
i do just fine with my half candle a night and in the winter i splurge on a monthly lump of coal
im just waiting for the rolling blackouts to take effect again; luckily temps have cooled down lately (here by the coast), so the less strain on the power grid during peak hours
how is the water rationing out there?

what are they doing about producing energy in the uk Ca++
solar isnt really a viable option, or is it?
one day we will unlock the power of the atom and have free cheap energy!

We will never have free cheap energy. Someone somewhere fill find a way to exploit it and increase prices. What's what makes the world go round. Society as a whole would have to change for thing to become free and or cheap. Take plastic for instance. It was supposed to be a new relatively cheap alternative to metals. We now pay a lot more for plastic. Case in point a hydro cloning machine mainly plastic $200.

 

[Ca++]

LMAO, You have no clue how to run a business .. That is very clear. 98% of small batch quality growers are not a hyped Cookies brand. None make profits like that.
You seem to have issues with people not growing outdoors in Cali that aren't about the money more than you do about the thread subject. Another kid looking for drama. I'm pushing 70 years old.. Stay in your own lane chad.

Perhaps senility is setting in. Supply and demand are behind the price increase. You don't understand what a businessman is meant to do, if you feel it's anything other than make money. A 5kw grow show isn't a business if you can't make 75k from it. It's just a job. Self employed, but not a business.

I know there is a different mentality in the states. You can drop a well and dry out the water table your neighbours need to survive can't you? Does that make it right.

Should people be using lights when they could use the sun? it's the same thing. There is just no need for it. It's not harmonious. It's taking what you don't need, at the expense of everyone else. I know you think it's justified, which is why the legal system needs to look at this.

I'm sat in the UK, in some way suffering the consequences of a grow opp in cali, that need not exist. Perhaps I should invade. That seems in line with your feelings

 

[Hammerhead]

Perhaps , at least im not a dick lmao.. Another chad gets added to ignore.

 

[Cuddles]

the trouble with indoor / outdoor grow is the (lack of ) opportunity. Many people simply can´t take it outside for a number of reasons

 

[Hammerhead]

the trouble with indoor / outdoor grow is the (lack of ) opportunity. Many people simply can´t take it outside for a number of reasons

100% agree. Opinions from those that don't live here are moot. A big one is our laws.

No cannabis — at any stage of growth or cultivation — may be visible from the outside of the private residence. So, you can't grow outdoors. You can grow as much cannabis as your six plants produce indoors or hidden from sight.

 

[Ca++]

We will never have free cheap energy. Someone somewhere fill find a way to exploit it and increase prices. What's what makes the world go round. Society as a whole would have to change for thing to become free and or cheap. Take plastic for instance. It was supposed to be a new relatively cheap alternative to metals. We now pay a lot more for plastic. Case in point a hydro cloning machine mainly plastic $200.

That's not plastic prices driving the price up though. If the manufacturer could use metal cheaper, they would. Though you wouldn't see a change in price. You are charged as much as they can get from you. The cost of production needs to be as far from the cost of purchase as they can make it. That's maximising profit.

Here we used to get plastic bags given at the shop. We see paper bags on American TV. These bags were once free, and as such people would take handfulls and use them as bin liners and stuff boxes as packaging. Now we have to pay. The shops are happy for us to have them for free, but they are not allowed to give them to us. A price has been forced upon plastic items in order to limit waste.

I'm the guy that will walk the trolley back to the trolley bay, in an empty car park at 3am. I don't mind working for the greater good. Though if someone has dumped a trolley beside me, my trolley can join that one. I'm very aware of how this plays out into other areas of our lives. Many people won't tell the self service they had a bag. Dump the trolley where it stops you pulling out. Then use the thicker 'bag for life' as a bin liner. A fact that almost makes the whole 'bag for life' save no plastic waste at all.


I really don't mind this plastic tax. If they stuff costs enough, it will lead to more recycling. Which is the whole idea. Freeing up crude for my sports car

 

[Ca++]

the trouble with indoor / outdoor grow is the (lack of ) opportunity. Many people simply can´t take it outside for a number of reasons

I'm just talking about commercial grows, where it's legal and there is the right weather. I'm not talking about about a personal grow where it's not legal.

 

[Cuddles]

I'm just talking about commercial grows, where it's legal and there is the right weather. I'm not talking about about a personal grow where it's not legal.

I see, but what about growing during the fall, winter, spring time? Especially to meet the demand of customers?
And frankly, many growers, I´m sure,simply don´t have enough land available to grow on during the summer months. There´s the catch, at least the way I see from here

 

[Cuddles]

That's not plastic prices driving the price up though. If the manufacturer could use metal cheaper, they would. Though you wouldn't see a change in price. You are charged as much as they can get from you. The cost of production needs to be as far from the cost of purchase as they can make it. That's maximising profit.

Here we used to get plastic bags given at the shop. We see paper bags on American TV. These bags were once free, and as such people would take handfulls and use them as bin liners and stuff boxes as packaging. Now we have to pay. The shops are happy for us to have them for free, but they are not allowed to give them to us. A price has been forced upon plastic items in order to limit waste.

I'm the guy that will walk the trolley back to the trolley bay, in an empty car park at 3am. I don't mind working for the greater good. Though if someone has dumped a trolley beside me, my trolley can join that one. I'm very aware of how this plays out into other areas of our lives. Many people won't tell the self service they had a bag. Dump the trolley where it stops you pulling out. Then use the thicker 'bag for life' as a bin liner. A fact that almost makes the whole 'bag for life' save no plastic waste at all.


I really don't mind this plastic tax. If they stuff costs enough, it will lead to more recycling. Which is the whole idea. Freeing up crude for my sports car

I the UK they started charging for plastic bags in the 90´s. In other countries such as Germany I believe decades (at least one, anyway) even earlier.
I started using fabric bags many years ago but even more so since I don´t have a car available anymore.
Paper and plastic bags have one thing in common: They break, just when you don´t need it. And when you have to walk home with all your heavy groceries like I have to, that REALLY sucks!!
So, the fabric ones may cost more to purchase initally but they are better quality and last for many years
I always keep some in my backpack just in case and my mum always has one in her handbag even.

 

[Frosty Bottoms]

I the UK they started charging for plastic bags in the 90´s. In other countries such as Germany I believe decades (at least one, anyway) even earlier.
I started using fabric bags many years ago but even more so since I don´t have a car available anymore.
Paper and plastic bags have one thing in common: They break, just when you don´t need it. And when you have to walk home with all your heavy groceries like I have to, that REALLY sucks!!
So, the fabric ones may cost more to purchase initally but they are better quality and last for many years
I always keep some in my backpack just in case and my mum always has one in her handbag even.

I've often thought about growing flax or converting my stems leftover from harvest to make string. Then use that to make clothes as the cost for fabric is ridiculous. Our ancestors were on to something here.

 

[mack 10]

It'd gonna double the price of bud.

 

[flylowgethigh]

In France this is the same !!!

Sanctions War: French and German Electricity Prices Up by 1,000 Per Cent over 2021 - https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...-prices-rise-by-1000-per-cent-over-last-year/

Maybe people should have considered where they get their resources from before they let the globalists running the .guv sanction Russia and supply weapons to have them killed.

It’s for Ukraine, save the nazis, Russia bad. There ya go, suffer for a good cause, suck it up and wear yellow/blue.

Wait until the US petroleum reserve is drained. Now is the good old daze.

 

[flylowgethigh]

My TV and hot water boiler - decided to crap out on me recently - so I'm not going to bother getting them fixed - the electricity savings are huge already - went from £10 per day to £2 per day on the electricity cost - I'm not running any indoor grow currently - just balcony - with lots of free sunshine -

- Looking at the cost of electricity projections in the media - can leave you feeling depressed - since they say its going up 500% - itll make indoor growing much less profitable for those growing commercially - with electricity costing £1 per kilowatt hour -

Gypsy, I didn’t mean you or your kids. Ditch the tele and read with the kids under a warm blanket.

 

[Hammerhead]

Ha, that's pretty funny... The USA has more Natzi's than Ukraine does. There is a shit load in Canada as well. You can find bad people all around the world.

 

[Volcanna]

 

[flylowgethigh]

Europe is still buying Russian natty gas, but they are getting it delivered the long way with added middlemen. Nice way to waste money. Buy LNG from China, cause Russia bad.

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