Wellandwitham
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Day 70...less lemony now. Earthy tones coming through. Still pumping loads of white pistils on chunky buds.Reckon shes got another 2 weeks at least..?
Panama
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Yes at least probably 3 or 4 at most for a super ripe stronger heavier harvest. I know i might annoy some people but i hate to see people harvest early and miss out on their buds being better just for being impatient whats another 2 to 4 weeks compared to how long it takes to get to the 10 week mark or 20 week mark. (Purple haze)
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+ 1 with Rolando!
I recently had a couple of panama girls (regs), took them at 15 and 16 weeks.
I recently had a couple of panama girls (regs), took them at 15 and 16 weeks.
use your feelings smell the plant and looks if plant is start degrading, sincerely i think with1 month more you will harvest brown overripe hairy reflowered buds. more stoney ,less bag appeal and change of terpenes into earthy background flavors with less fruit and active feelings. if you miss that a sativa can knock harder but can not say if better or worse. i noticed that with mine yesterday, with one zamadelica i wait too much and is super clear i miss the point confronting two samples and is my third run with same clones.
I beg to differ with you on some points akira... but especially the bag appeal, more mature buds means more resin with larger bracts and i can't see how it would affect bag appeal negatively...Pure sativa shouldn't be more stoney if harvested late, just less racy but more tasty and longer lasting high than immature buds. This said these panama are not pure sativa in my book.
pictures of the 15 weeker, as you can see the resin glands doesn't seems to be overmatured, they're still white ( sorry for the shitty blurry pictures):
pictures of the 15 weeker, as you can see the resin glands doesn't seems to be overmatured, they're still white ( sorry for the shitty blurry pictures):
i didn't say your wrong but not all plants ripe same way , mine did a extreme foxtail and harvest point wasn't clear as yours . dubi say something about an overripe zamadelica harvest on 116 days few days ago but any plant is a different case and smokers too so i also agree with you but not necessary need to wait so long . beautiful panama
I agree with you (not all plants ripe same way) but honestly you got me confused with the "brown overripe hairy reflowered buds" sentence...I have yet to see what you're talking about exactly...
yes ,sorry sounds like a sentence but wasn't my intention . after many years observing the differences in harvest points with different strains , i'm still learning a lot from them and i think any strain as to be well known from grower to obtain a top quality smoke. one of other theory i was thinking last period is that weed is your own doctor plant and i saw how many person harvest his first plant without know nothing about trichome but only receiving a call from them at right moment with interesting results. anyway if you want to add your contribute to the cause your really welcome. 
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=332882
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Pepe the grower, akirabull, rolandomata... thanks chaps. First time growing Panama & Zam.. obviously happy to wait a few more weeks after so long, but definitely don't want them over cooked as there's going to be a fair amount!
Not bothered about bag appeal, it's only for me I had a little tester of Panama yesterday and it was absolutely diamond. Really clear, active not stoned at all. Felt more like speed at times lol That's how I lik my Sats. Nice bit of lime coming through on the smoke as well. I know that some strains keep pumping pistils or the trichs don't tend to amber as much as others. I'll keep her going for at least another week and take some more tester, or the the odd branch to get a decent spread.
Defiantly packing on the weight. Confused me really as I was expecting her to be done before the Zam. At the moment the Zam looks further ahead.
Peace
Not bothered about bag appeal, it's only for me
I had a little tester of Panama yesterday and it was absolutely diamond. Really clear, active not stoned at all. Felt more like speed at times lol That's how I lik my Sats. Nice bit of lime coming through on the smoke as well. I know that some strains keep pumping pistils or the trichs don't tend to amber as much as others. I'll keep her going for at least another week and take some more tester, or the the odd branch to get a decent spread. Defiantly packing on the weight. Confused me really as I was expecting her to be done before the Zam. At the moment the Zam looks further ahead.
Peace
just checked and i was a bit off, i culled them at 14 and 15 weeks actually...
@ akira: that gal looks just like the longer one i had, and i agree with most of your description of the high from the later harvest ( complex heavy introspective) but i wouldn't say clean but quite confusing...clearly not the right one for social interactions although she have some enrgetic properties...maybe she's just too potent for my liking
i wouldn't say clean but quite confusing...clearly not the right one for social interactions although she have some enrgetic properties...maybe she's just too potent for my liking....green one is clean for first half hour than turn to more mellow calm introspective , red one is quite confusing like your. both were cuted at the end of final harvest window. for this reason is super interesting do a second run , i know mine plants near week 10 - 11 has a better more sociable high
heres a llittle final summary of my different panama regular girls
Girl 1 (winner): green hairs at harvest, solid round flowers, great flower/leaf ratio, incense smell, slower of the 2 @ 11 weeks flowering, great yeild. smooth smoke and best of all a unique trippy dense long lasting sativa effect. almost too much for some
Girl 2: Red hairs, pointed flower tops. , average flower/leaf ratio, a much more familliar lemon/ganja smell, quicker finish @ 10 ish weeks, woodier smoke with a much more "indica" feel of regular duration.
girl one was a wow plant, very different long lasting effect without significant come down
girl 2 is great smoke. just not the unique lady her sister is
Girl 1 (winner): green hairs at harvest, solid round flowers, great flower/leaf ratio, incense smell, slower of the 2 @ 11 weeks flowering, great yeild. smooth smoke and best of all a unique trippy dense long lasting sativa effect. almost too much for some
Girl 2: Red hairs, pointed flower tops. , average flower/leaf ratio, a much more familliar lemon/ganja smell, quicker finish @ 10 ish weeks, woodier smoke with a much more "indica" feel of regular duration.
girl one was a wow plant, very different long lasting effect without significant come down
girl 2 is great smoke. just not the unique lady her sister is
I grew 6 Panamas in the past, FIVE of them were female, they were a little bit seeded by the male
They ranged from mainly green to red
I preferred the clearer green phenos, the red ones were nice but stoney, good for the evening or a hot summer day when you got time to chill in the shade
My climate and them being lightly seeded also affected the high I guess, at least the strength
Next year I didn't plan to grow them again but in spring while still pretty cold one seed sprouted in the garden so I decided this was a sign and I kept it
This was a red pheno as well but the first red pheno that I liked more
I think it was most related to the panama 74 part of the hybrid
The structure of the buds and so many red hairs, it just looked like the pictures I've seen on icmag about panama 74
The high wasn't as stoney but had a warm glow, body and mind, very functional and sociable compared to the more stoney red panama phenos, like covering you in a blanket of feel good
It was my favourite panama so far
In the future I might try to breed some of the green panamas to the peachy incensey Tikal
The most characteristic strength of the panama is it's nice dreamy but awake effect combined with its nice flavours, all of them tasted great
And its great strength, vigour, strong branches
I guess the land of origin isn't as important as the degree the line has been adapted
And the panama been adapted very well
They finished for me at the beginning of November/end of October at 48N, I guess not as strong as in Spain but million times better than all the weed I could buy
At least as strong as the nep jam(which is better adapted to my climate, finishes a lot earlier)
Altough I find them hard to compare because the effects are pretty different (nep jam high is very centered, panama not centered at all, more free flowing)
They ranged from mainly green to red
I preferred the clearer green phenos, the red ones were nice but stoney, good for the evening or a hot summer day when you got time to chill in the shade
My climate and them being lightly seeded also affected the high I guess, at least the strength
Next year I didn't plan to grow them again but in spring while still pretty cold one seed sprouted in the garden so I decided this was a sign and I kept it
This was a red pheno as well but the first red pheno that I liked more
I think it was most related to the panama 74 part of the hybrid
The structure of the buds and so many red hairs, it just looked like the pictures I've seen on icmag about panama 74
The high wasn't as stoney but had a warm glow, body and mind, very functional and sociable compared to the more stoney red panama phenos, like covering you in a blanket of feel good
It was my favourite panama so far
In the future I might try to breed some of the green panamas to the peachy incensey Tikal
The most characteristic strength of the panama is it's nice dreamy but awake effect combined with its nice flavours, all of them tasted great
And its great strength, vigour, strong branches
I guess the land of origin isn't as important as the degree the line has been adapted
And the panama been adapted very well
They finished for me at the beginning of November/end of October at 48N, I guess not as strong as in Spain but million times better than all the weed I could buy
At least as strong as the nep jam(which is better adapted to my climate, finishes a lot earlier)
Altough I find them hard to compare because the effects are pretty different (nep jam high is very centered, panama not centered at all, more free flowing)
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Another thing to add:
The way the panama cures up is just perfect!
I cobbed the red pheno I liked so much and after 3-5 months the buds just fell of the stick
And the stick split up in its fibers and became really soft and bendable
A very smooth smoke which lays gently on the lungs almost caressing your lungs
The way the panama cures up is just perfect!
I cobbed the red pheno I liked so much and after 3-5 months the buds just fell of the stick
And the stick split up in its fibers and became really soft and bendable
A very smooth smoke which lays gently on the lungs almost caressing your lungs
Let's play a doubleheader!
Let's play a doubleheader!
Greetings from The Great White North! I believe this is my first post, and I hope you get your money's worth. I recently planted a couple of seeds from my first order with Ace, back around New Year's. Surprise! The Panama Standard seed produced two seedlings (makes up for the fact, I guess, the Golden Tiger seed I planted didn't germinate at all). I'm thinking of letting the roots develop and then separating the two seedlings and putting them in separate pots.
Anyone run into this before? Any thoughts on what might happen? I'm guessing since the seedlings are from one seed, they're identical. Then again, that's not always the case with humans. I'm wondering, assuming they both live, if I might end up with two different phenotypes, or even if one could be female and the other male?
Thanks to all contributors to this thread. I've been lurking for a while, gleaning info from the 200-some pages for this grow. It's only the second time I will have tried growing a sativa (I grew someone's homemade Columbian x Acapulco last year, with poor results), but I've been growing indicas successfuly for the past six years (400 watt HPS flowering chamber; coco coir in hempy buckets; 200 watt CFL grow bulb in a small chamber for clones).
Let's play a doubleheader!
Greetings from The Great White North! I believe this is my first post, and I hope you get your money's worth. I recently planted a couple of seeds from my first order with Ace, back around New Year's. Surprise! The Panama Standard seed produced two seedlings (makes up for the fact, I guess, the Golden Tiger seed I planted didn't germinate at all). I'm thinking of letting the roots develop and then separating the two seedlings and putting them in separate pots.
Anyone run into this before? Any thoughts on what might happen? I'm guessing since the seedlings are from one seed, they're identical. Then again, that's not always the case with humans. I'm wondering, assuming they both live, if I might end up with two different phenotypes, or even if one could be female and the other male?
Thanks to all contributors to this thread. I've been lurking for a while, gleaning info from the 200-some pages for this grow. It's only the second time I will have tried growing a sativa (I grew someone's homemade Columbian x Acapulco last year, with poor results), but I've been growing indicas successfuly for the past six years (400 watt HPS flowering chamber; coco coir in hempy buckets; 200 watt CFL grow bulb in a small chamber for clones).
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I'd leave 'em together & see what happens, maybe use a bigger pot.
