Panama

[warcraft74]

It sounds like Panama would be a good choice, especially for an outdoor guerilla grow. It doesn't stretch that much and the yield is good. I wouldn't worry about my observations about potential indica influence in south american populations. I have no solid proof of this and I don't actually have enough experience with cannabis to talk about that with authority anyway. I would trust the word of the Ace guys, (dubi, etc) they are directly involved with the breeding and they know exactly, and as I keep saying, they wont lie or mislead like some vendors might. My comment was more of a question than an observation anyway.

Panama is probably closer to common commercial strains than, say, a pure thai, but it is still far from skunky. Give her a try, whats the worst that can happen?

i probably am just paranoid about it. i've just had so many disappointment from city dealers that i want to be sure i'm not getting more of the same... but you're right - dubi and ace seems very reputable and not to mention good peoples.

i'll go through with the grow this summer and keeps you good folks updated. thanks once again.

 

[Dream Universe]

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[Bleiweis]

@Dream Universe
I grew Panama last season at 47N...she started flowering in the second week of august. She would finish around the 2-3.week of november but our cold climate didn't give her the chance. It depends on the weather basicly!

 

[kiwigreen420]

At 37S the look to be late april finishers.

They start flowering beginning-mid feb depending on pheno down here.

 

[warcraft74]

At 37S the look to be late april finishers.

They start flowering beginning-mid feb depending on pheno down here.

harvest time should be coming soon for you - looking forward to seeing what you come out with

 

[Terpene]

Panama x Napalm (fire og x destroyer) at 5.5 weeks.

Napalm side

Panama side

 

[kiwigreen420]

harvest time should be coming soon for you - looking forward to seeing what you come out with

Yeah cheers, I'm thinking I'll start harvesting after the 20th of april but not past the end of the month depending on pheno. the green will be last.

So glad I have 3 phenos to try out. Next season I'm going to mother some Panamas up for an early start to get some absolute monsters!

 

[recent guest]

Well I have had the true pleasure of smoking this strain, and I can positively declare it well underhyped.

This is some great marijuana, the high is exactly as is described in this thread. This sample, which I am pretty sure is a red phenotype, is astonishingly pleasant to smoke, very levitating. I am not sure of the pheno because I grew this sample indoors under lights, and I believe it takes strong sunlight to bring out the red?

 

[SeedsOfFreedom]

Awesome Bear! One of my favorite traits of the Panama line is the resin content! These ladies have as many trichomes as any hashplant! Very, very frosty for a sativa!
I can't wait to smoke on some Sativas again. Its been too long , I have some Panama, Thai and Malawi clones rooted though, it shouldn't be too much longer.

 

[Jhhnn]

Very nice, Bear Riot. Somewhat compressed, those buds would very strongly resemble the original of 40 years ago.

 

[yesum]

Good pics Bear Riot, look about like my PR buds. This is the green pheno but the pink pistil pheno looked similar, about the same redness after cure. Floaty feeling was very unique aspect of this high compared to other strains I have, much more pronounced with the Panama Red.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=264284&stc=1&d=1398580673

 

[warcraft74]

lookin good, bearriot... i just put in my order for 5 fems the other day. enjoy!

 

[ThaiBliss]

Yesum and Bear Riot,

You guys have inspired me. I have been sitting on some Panama seeds for a little while. I'm going to plant Panama next time I sprout seeds. Although the high resin content makes my mouth water, what is really encouraging me is the repeated mentioning of the "floaty" feeling and euphoric nature of the high. I love that.

Thanks for sharing those beautiful pictures and your experiences.

ThaiBliss

 

[Panacanna]

Well I have had the true pleasure of smoking this strain, and I can positively declare it well underhyped.

This is some great marijuana, the high is exactly as is described in this thread. This sample, which I am pretty sure is a red phenotype, is astonishingly pleasant to smoke, very levitating. I am not sure of the pheno because I grew this sample indoors under lights, and I believe it takes strong sunlight to bring out the red?

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Gorgeous produce, BearRiot!

 

[Terpene]

Panama x Napalm (fire og x destroyer) at 10.5 weeks. Probably let them run till 12 weeks before killing em.

Napalm-ish side

Panama side

 

[Biosynthesis]

Does anyone know where to send payment to ace via postal service?

 

[Speed Racer]

Aceseeds.org is there site and should have info.peace... SR

 

[recent guest]

Here is a smoke report on Panama I just compiled for another thread, thought I would post it here. Grow this strain, period, end of story.


IDENTIFICATION
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Date: 5 - 8 -14
Strain: Panama (Red Phenotype)
Judge: Bear_Riot
Breeder: Ace Seeds
Grower: Bear_Riot!!!

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PHYSICAL EXAMINATION
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1. Visual Appeal: Rate the visual appeal of the buds from 1-10 unappealing-excellent. 8-9

This is great looking dry marijuana. In terms of Bag appeal, it is the second prettiest strain I have grown, the only one that ranks above her in this category, that I have grown, is NYC Diesel, and I honestly and objectively don't think I've ever seen nicer looking bud than that, if I may say so myself which I may, so, all in all, top notch. Great trichome coverage and a profusion of red hairs, from a distance this is a darker jar, you might not say 'Red' but definitely not a wholly traditional looking green herb.

(one interesting thing to note is that I left the plant outside after harvesting all but the lower two branches. In 55-60F night temperatures, the buds on those branches purpled up to a beautiful light lavender tone, so maybe in a cooler greenhouse, she will produce some purple! Get yourself over to my greenhouse thread!)

2. Visible Trichomes: Rate the visible trichome content from 1-10 none-totally covered. 9

I think any sane person would conclude that trichomes/crystals are totally covering these buds.

3. Use an X to indicate the colors that are present in the trichome heads under magnification or list the percentages of each color for a more precise report.

Clear [ ] Cloudy [x] Amber [ ] Dark [ ]

After a bit of cure, only amber, nice light colored trichomes.

4. Mark with X the colors that are present in the buds or for a more detailed color analysis rate presence on a scale 1-9 light-dark.

Brown [ ] Green [x] Gold [x] Blue [ ] Grey [ ] White [ ] Red [x] Rust [x] Orange [x] Purple [ ] Black [ ]

5. Bud density: [5] Rate the bud density from 1-10 airy-dense. For samples that are not in their natural state leave this field blank.
Right in the middle of the road. If the Oldtimer's Haze in this grow is a 1, about as airy as you can get, Panama sits at about 5. The bud is nice and compact, but there is air space too. Normal is the word.

6. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the aroma of freshly broken bud where a one indicates a subtle presence and 9 indicates a pronounced presence.
Delete the existing space when marking a descriptor in order to maintain the columns in alignment.

Earthy [2] Berry [2-3] Floral [5] Fruit [5] Hash [4]
Musk [2] Spice [2] Nutmeg [1] Strawberry [3] Lemon [7]

The sweet side of the cannabis spectrum. Not a citrus 'bite', as I have noted, but rather a warm, lush, and smooth ripe lemon overtone with definite floral berry reminders, and backgrounds of exotic spice, incense, and egyptian musk. The cure is bringing out stronger smells in almost all categories, but when the jar is opened, and it often is, I usually find myself expressing out loud how awesome it smells, even if I'm alone. It just needs to be said.

7. Aroma [8-9] Rate the aroma from 1-10 repulsive-delightful. Use freshly crumbled bud for best results.

Top notch. I grew out a chocolope dominant pheno of C99 x Chocolope that I doubt will ever be beaten in the smell dept., this jar definitely ranks in the same league though.

8. Seed content [0] Rate seed content from 0-10 none-fully seeded.
Not a seed in any of the bud from this grow, I think the Frost Monster nanner was impotent.

9. Weeks cured [2] If known enter the number of weeks your sample has been cured. If desired repeat SSR after an additional two weeks of curing.

This shouldnt be news to anyone but the cure is making this herb smell better and better, and the high nicer all the time. The problem is I don't think I can save this from myself long enough to give it a proper cure.

PHYSICAL EXAMINATION COMMENTS:
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THE SMOKE TEST
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Address these questions while smoking.

...looks like I have to smoke another bowl. Well, if I HAVE to

1. Please use a clean instrument for the evaluation. Enter information below that will identify the instrument as follows:

Water pipe (enter bong, hooka, bubbler etc) [ ]
Vaporizer (enter the brand name) [ ]
Pipe (size-type, ie medium-glass) [x]
This is my homemade pipe/water pipe. I used three different length pieces of copper pipe, 1'', 6'', and 24'', connected by three 90 brass coupling elbows. A 'Y' valve functions as the carb, letting it clear quickly, and that connects to a common brass garden hose nozzle that functions as the bowl. Each bowl gives three 'milky' full hits, despite its small size, and maybe a couple of residual pulls. It is a highly efficient piece of equipment, and its not going to break, ever. You can change out the bowl, and there are different types of brass hose nozzle with different 'bowls', and they are $7.95 at the hardware store, and I can find new parts anywhere in the country. Then theres the fact that this pipe can be taken apart and look it looks like components of an irrigation system, slick sh*t. Then theres the fact that I can alter the size/capacity of this thing to anything I want. I could screw a regular garden hose onto the end of it and make it into a 100 footer.

It is called The Bamboozler.

Now you see what this Panama is doing? I can't stop talking!

Joint (enter brand of papers) [ ]
Other (specify):

2. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the taste where a one indicates a subtle presence and a nine indicates a very pronounced presence.
Delete the existing space when marking a descriptor in order to maintain the columns in alignment.

Earthy [2] Fruit [8] Hash [6] Citrus [9]
Spice [2] Nutmeg [2] Strawberry [7] Lemon [9] Menthol [4]

The smoke is surprisingly close to the smell, which is very cool. I put '6' for Hash but thats not quite the taste, its more of a thick, oily background. Not acrid, not bitter, but sweet, floral, lemony, and more berry with a 'thick' feel to it. Very good for just 2 cure weeks. Nice on the exhale, and so smooth I only cough on the BIGGEST of hits, which, it turns out, adds to it's deceptive nature. This is the only bud in the collection I have at the time of this report that I can most definitely smoke too much of. Thats rare for me.

If appropriate return to this question after 5-10 minutes and mark
with X any unmarked descriptors for lingering aftertaste.

3. Taste [9] Rate your impression of the taste from 1-10 unpleasant-delicious.

4. State of dryness [5] Rate the dryness of the bud from 1-10 wet-dry where 5 is ideal.

I use a humidity monitor inside of the jar, and for this stage of the curing, I keep the jar at 65% rh. I have brought it down as gradually as possible from a beginning rh of 75% right after jarring. No mold and no spoilage.

5. Smoke ability [10] Rate the smoke ability of the sample from 1-10 harsh-smooth.

A very positive sticking point for this herb, its well velvety.


6. Smoke expansion [ ] Rate how the smoke expands in the lungs from 1-10 stable-explodes.

Im sorry but I have no idea what this means. I don't burst out coughing, like I said, very little throat pain, easy to hold a hit in. Too easy.

SMOKE TEST COMMENTS:

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FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS
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Address final questions immediately after effects have worn off.

1. Dosage [3 or fewer] Enter the number of hits taken to reach desired effects.

All winter I had not much to do and was smoking two, sometimes three 110 millimeter joints a day, each was over a gram, and I can get, LIKE NOW, way way high from just finishing one bowl out of the Bamboozler.

2. Effect onset [5] Rate how quickly the effect hit from 1-10 immediate-major creeper.

I don't really notice it to be either. Maybe a little more creeper than quick, I usually start packing another bowl and then don't smoke it. Another positive of the Bamboozler is I can set it down and it solidly holds a packed bowl.

3. Sativa influence [8-9] Rate the sativa influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Sativa influence is best described as a clear and energetic mental effect.

Now we get to the meat of the thing. This is a pure Sativa, plain and simple. An experienced sativa connoisseur would not mistake this for a hybrid. You are awakened and uplifted, motivated and talkative. That said, I put 8-9 because there is a drifty, disoriented, dense effect to the high that is totally enjoyable and not to be confused with a lethargic Indica stone.

The breeders describe the high of the Panama Red phenotype with that adjective, dense, and once you smoke it you know exactly what they mean. They also said once that is was far from being a 'dirty' sativa, and once you smoke it you definitely get that, too.

4. Indica influence [0] Rate the indica influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Indica influence is best described as a sedative,
lethargic or numbing effect that affects the body.

5. Potency [8-9+] Rate the potency of the sample from 0-10 none-devastating.

As I have made clear, I have plenty of smoking experience and this does the trick and then some.

6. Duration [2+] Indicate the number of hours the effects lasted.

7. Tolerance build up [4] Rate how quickly tolerance builds from 0-10 none-rapid. Leave this field blank if you have not used this sample repeatedly.

Im going to wait to pass judgement on this, so far, its still getting me high as hell.

8. Usability [check] Rate on a scale of 1-9 where a one indicates the worst time of day to consume this strain and a nine represents the ideal time of day.
Leave field(s) blank if you have not yet formed an opinion.

Morning - wake up [7] Day - work [6] Evening - relax [6] Night - sleep [3]

This is the herb that I am smoking in the mornings. It works then, its fine while I am working, and its has a surprising relaxing quality to it, I heard someone say 'sensual', thats accurate. Its a sensual, warm, happy, and very floaty sativa. Not for bedtime for me.

9. Overall satisfaction [8-10] Rate your overall satisfaction from 1-10 poor-Holy Grail.

Wasn't planning on keeping this plant because she has a mutated leaf that shows up about 1 out of every 10 leaves the plant grows. Its got a twisted tip and a variegated yellow slash pattern, not yellowing from deficiency, but like a patterned leaf. I'll try to get a photo.

10.Ability and conditions [7-8] Rate your overall ability to judge from 1-10 low-high. Consider experience, strain familiarity, atmosphere,
current tolerance and most importantly the condition and preparation of the sample.

I feel pretty seasoned despite being on the younger side, there are definitely many more experienced IcMag members, but I hold my smoke for sure. I definitely qualify as a daily smoker. I definitely qualify as a weed head, and I qualify as a connoisseur.

11.Judging from the sample alone do you personally consider this
strain a keeper for long term use. Yes [xxxx] No [ ]


The Panama Red effect:

An uplifting, dreamy, expansive floating sensation, sometimes experienced as a physical euphoria. Produces feelings of warmth and positive energy/thoughts. Creativity and abstract thought are enhanced. I have no experience with this strain in social situations, but I imagine it to be functional, perhaps inducing laughter. In higher doses there is an almost out-of-body effect that could be considered a form of trippyness, a twist on most the classic psychedelic sativa effect. I have no problem reading, and when smoking Panama I tend to be very highly focused on whatever im doing, sometimes completely absorbed in mundane tasks like dishwashing and pulling weeds. Tactile experience is enhanced, along with visual richness and color intensity. Late evening sunset glow quality to the world of Panama. A neat feature of the effect seems to be that my short term memory is not nearly as impaired as it usually is, which is one reason I believe the high could be quite socially functional. As yet, I have not found a 'limit' to Panama, I invariably stop smoking before it stops getting me high.


Conclusion:
Panama is a winner strain, excellent to grow and smoke. This pheno goes above and beyond by being exceptionally beautiful and exotic as a plant and in the jar/bag, because of it's highly unusual pink pistil.
Thank you to the Ace Seed Company, saludos
Thanks for reading!

 

[GET MO]

thinkin bout poppin my PanamaXerkle....

 

[warcraft74]

excellent write up bear riot, thank you. everything i was curious about knowing - especially in-depth has been answered. you're a great writer and express yourself very well. i can't wait until the end of october to indulge.

enjoy, man.