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Owning guns and growing .......
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TwoOhSix! said:
No, you cant. Taser International is the only company with the rights and patent to produce the cartridges to their M18, M18L, and X26 models. No matter where you buy the cartridges from you need to provide your DL # and a bunch of other info, and each cartridge is serialized. When they go off they leave hundreds of little microchips (which they refer to as confetti) with the cartridge serial #. As for the new Taser C2 personal defense tasers, they may not have the confetti, but they aren't as powerful as the M18 or X26 models.
I personally have the police issue X26 taser with the laser, costs $800! Awesome little toy, but that's all it is. When there are multiple threats its kind of useless. Also, it is becoming more and more common for violent criminals to wear bullet-proof vests during the comission of a crime. Vest or not, a bullet will drop someone, the taser won't. I let my friend (an ex-USMC scout sniper) shoot me with the X26 and video record it on his phone. Its pretty funny to see myself squirming like a fish out of water. Only lasts 5 seconds but man, it feels like 20 minutes. Not comfortable.
DrBud- I agree with you completely. I love this country and my state because of the awesome gun laws. There aren't too many other places in the world where I can have a collection like the one I have. I can assure you that none of my neighbors will have any problems with home invasions...
The best part about sub-machine guns is they just keep appreciating. Most aren't produced any more and the demand for them keeps going up as they become more and more rare. My $500 MAC-10 will be worth well over $2000 in the next 5 years. Transferable select fire models that sold for $300 new are already worth $5K+.
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So if you have a bunch of microchips on your dining room floor... you tell them that you let your friend shoot you to see how powerful the taser was. I don't see how they can go investigate the scene every time a cartridge is fired. I can see if it was used offensively, they could go back and trace who the taser belonged to, but for home invasion? Are the police really showing up after you fire it? I hope not...
Beyond stupid considering it gives the feds the right to search your property any time they feel like it. Oops !!
http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIF1.html
I hope that was meant as comedy.
Sounds like someones been watching too many movies.
The chance of this scenario unfolding the way you describe is probably a million to one.
Suppose 7 assailants have in fact forced their way into your neighbours house. What are the chances that none of them will be armed?
What are the chances they (if theres 7 at least one will be on the lookout) wont notice you approach with a pact of dogs and an assault rifle?
What if they see you approaching and open fire on you. Now your in the open taking shots, but you can't return fire because the assailants are covered by the people you are trying to protect.
Even if they aren't armed, what if (again) they see you approaching, grab a knife from the kitchen counter (which they would have done once they gained entry) and hold it to your neighbours throat telling you to hand over the weapon?
Bottom line is trying to take control of a situation when your outnumbered seven to one is foolish no matter what weaponry you have, and will most likely just escalate the situation. This is common sense...
IMO anyone who thinks they "need" full-auto weapons:
A: Has pissed off a lot of the wrong people,
Or
B: Is totally paranoid and out of touch with reality.
Yes firearms are fun to look at and play with but when its gets the point where you think you "need" at all times or else your don't feel "safe" you really need to evaluate your situation...And sanity.
The_Leader
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1 plant + 1 gun = 1O years Fed time. That means all 5O states and common wealths.
No guns here. No dogs. No worries.
Leo here are fed regularly. I grew up w/most my local cops. Age hasn't made them smarter
I'm 4O. Their still numbnut jocks, but fat and slow now....lol
No guns here. No dogs. No worries.
Leo here are fed regularly. I grew up w/most my local cops. Age hasn't made them smarter
I'm 4O. Their still numbnut jocks, but fat and slow now....lolVerite said:
I am well aware of this- I mentioned it earlier in this thread and is one of the main reasons I started this thread. I want to know how others deal with legally owning guns. It's why I only keep my sidearm at my house, the rest are in a storage room not registered to me, in a 3-hr fire-rated gun safe. I'm not worried about them coming to my place of residence. They can come all they want- they'll find less than an oz and a few pipes at any given point, and those are stored away in a false wall.
lemonade- The above scenario is not that unheard of. Just a few days ago I saw a newsclip where 4 or 5 armed men forced their way into a house and tried to rob the place. The owner of the home shot one of the invaders, and held the rest at gunpoint until authorities arrived. Wouldn't be much different if the neighbor would have come over to save the day.
I'm sorry, but it may be a one in a million chance, but it is still a chance. Just like getting attacked by a shark, or hit by lightning, or winning the lotto. Someone eventually ends up being that one in a million and if it happens to me, I will be prepared. I'd rather be prepared and not need it, then need it and be unprepared.
As for disarming a group of armed men, most people that carry guns to commit crime use them for intimidation, they usually wont use them. Also, if someone is committing a felony by endangering the life of another, I have the right to shoot them. I don't know about others but someone breaks into a house with a weapon that is giving me 100% right to shoot them dead, no questions asked. In the home invasion situation listed before I'd walk in and shoot the first "bad guy" I saw and hold the rest at gunpoint. If I saw so much as one of them turn towards me with a weapon, they'd be next to leave in a black bag. Most humans that are even slightly coherent will not continue what it is they are doing if bullets come flying at them.
Obviously if a home invasion or other life-threatening event happens there isn't time to get all "suited up", but my Interceptor vest (USMC issue- from Iraq) is in the closet by the front door. If I have to run outside and protect my family, property, neighbors, etc. I can have a gun and be suited up in a vest that can take 10 direct hits from an AK-47 within 15-20 seconds. I'm not afraid to walk into a situation where bullets are coming my way, trust me, it can't be much worse than the 'sandbox.' Anyone that's ever been there understands.
The_Leader
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texasluv....your 1 gun + 1 plant = 1O yrs FED time!! No matter what Texas laws are.
I aim high, and w/arrows Why would you bother aimming anywhere but the head? Just asking.
I aim high, and w/arrows
Why would you bother aimming anywhere but the head? Just asking.
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texasluv said:
wow brother, no disrespect to the fact that you are a vet, but it really sounds like you would be happier back in the "sandbox"
not sure what you do to make a living, but I am sure that they have openings for mercenarys at places like Blackwater.
peace
jip
why would you endanger your life over some weed? no amount of weed is worth your life. pretty sure if a crew comes in with guns, why wouldn't they use them? you can't gamble on the fact that they only use for intimidation. even if you managed to shoot a few of them, the other few would have already unloaded a parade on you. lots of dead bodies over something stupid. be careful what you do with your guns. you can't bring a gun into prison!!! start working on some shanks...
guns and pot and dogs
guns and pot and dogs
It really depends on where you live what you would consider doing with guns and pot. At a grow here when it gets busted, they always include the guns in news reports but they are usually not included as a seperate charge, just as evidence that the grow was a criminal interprise. It is a law that having a firearm while in commission of a felony is another felony, class c i think. I think though that the guns and grow would have to be connected though to land the state charge like guns in the grow and by th door when you get busted. I also think a state carry permit would exempt you from having the two connected. Without wanting to tell anything that would identify me, I got pulled over with a halfer and 4 eights, spilled the weed down my center console, and had a loaded pistol in my jacket, and the state police didn't even book me, but I never got my beretta .40 back. Got all of my sentence dropped except the fine and the gun seizure, no jail, all because I seperated the issues in court. The D.A. tried to smear me in court over the gun, but I had my story tight about why I had bagged up weed and a pistol. I am sure things could change if a case went federal.
As for my house with my grow, it has a 90 pound pit/rotty/best friend that is already proven intruder deterrant, and a shotty with 8 bird shot shells. I don't want to kill anyone that breaks in, just **** their face and chest up real bad.
guns and pot and dogs
It really depends on where you live what you would consider doing with guns and pot. At a grow here when it gets busted, they always include the guns in news reports but they are usually not included as a seperate charge, just as evidence that the grow was a criminal interprise. It is a law that having a firearm while in commission of a felony is another felony, class c i think. I think though that the guns and grow would have to be connected though to land the state charge like guns in the grow and by th door when you get busted. I also think a state carry permit would exempt you from having the two connected. Without wanting to tell anything that would identify me, I got pulled over with a halfer and 4 eights, spilled the weed down my center console, and had a loaded pistol in my jacket, and the state police didn't even book me, but I never got my beretta .40 back. Got all of my sentence dropped except the fine and the gun seizure, no jail, all because I seperated the issues in court. The D.A. tried to smear me in court over the gun, but I had my story tight about why I had bagged up weed and a pistol. I am sure things could change if a case went federal.
As for my house with my grow, it has a 90 pound pit/rotty/best friend that is already proven intruder deterrant, and a shotty with 8 bird shot shells. I don't want to kill anyone that breaks in, just **** their face and chest up real bad.
kittycrack
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wasn't the "PC World" magazine editor gunned down in his home over MMJ in the bay? I bet he would have had a fighting chance if (1) his son wasn't a fcuk head (2) he had a FN five-seven with the "cop killer" rounds kickin it on his hip
lemonade said:
Well lets see in the past 13 months we have have had 9-Black Bear and 3-lions in the YARD....what do you suggest we do?
If she has to step up and do her job .....Don't you owe it to her to be able to back her up?m@rg said:No guns in my house
She will do me just fine
25 wks old
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lc00p4 said:
NEVER use LETHAL FORCE to defend anything exept LIFE
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