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[Rodehazrd]

Question for you guys. I hear folks speak about the dry cycle and the need for one. I have used sips mostly for years and compared to in the ground or regular pots my sip’s grows are better plants. I think having good moisture always available is better than going through times of stress. Can anyone explain the mechanics of torturing a plant with drought.

 

[mudballs]

It messes with the metabolites

Increasing Inflorescence Dry Weight and Cannabinoid Content in Medical Cannabis Using Controlled Drought Stress

Controlled application of drought can increase secondary metabolite concentrations in some essential oil-producing crops. To evaluate the effects of drought on cannabis (Cannabis sativa L.) inflorescence dry weight and cannabinoid content, drought stress was applied to container-grown cannabis...

journals.ashs.org

If i had any input on it, you can blow past the threshold too easily...just a bit of dryback is good enough.

 

[mudballs]

Intern!...COFFEE!

 

[Rodehazrd]

I find the combination of coffee and cannabis has another level of enterage/ synergystic effect. Wake up and smell the cannabis!

Sativa Candy Chunk flower from 2023 (see quote expanded)

 

[mudballs]

It was hyped for a bit there on forums...i looked into it, tried it ..saw my plants wilted to shit and said "this is dumb im not doing this"

 

[pipeline]

Question for you guys. I hear folks speak about the dry cycle and the need for one. I have used sips mostly for years and compared to in the ground or regular pots my sip’s grows are better plants. I think having good moisture always available is better than going through times of stress. Can anyone explain the mechanics of torturing a plant with drought. View attachment 19039439

It messes with the metabolites

Increasing Inflorescence Dry Weight and Cannabinoid Content in Medical Cannabis Using Controlled Drought Stress

Controlled application of drought can increase secondary metabolite concentrations in some essential oil-producing crops. To evaluate the effects of drought on cannabis (Cannabis sativa L.) inflorescence dry weight and cannabinoid content, drought stress was applied to container-grown cannabis...

journals.ashs.org

If i had any input on it, you can blow past the threshold too easily...just a bit of dryback is good enough.

Psyiologically, a plant which has a meristem (growing point)go through water deficit will not be able regain the growth rate to what it once was. Meristem tissue must stay turgid with water or else it damages its ability to divide and elongate new cells.

 

[pipeline]

Been just string trimming the vegetable garden and nothing else besides a little hand weeding at the beginning. Getting some green tomatoes, green beans, and squash. Tough plants.

Lost the lettuce, spinach, and waiting on the peppers. Medical cannabis is doing well!

About 10 days and males will be cut!

 

[mudballs]

Well the concept is for late flower, so the argument  could be made, it dont matter anymore, we're about to harvest the thing...but it doesn't work like that outdoors, even less with monster bushes...imagine an entire field of 8ft high plants in late flower, all wilted out and shit, colas laying on the ground just to get 12% more...

 

[pipeline]

Healthy roots need a steady supply of oxygen, they need to breathe too. Thats probably why a dry cycle usually helps, but on the other side they need plenty of water, especially at the end during the flush phase.

Watering deep (to the depth of root zone) and infrequently is generally the rule of thumb for a healthy plant whether its turfgrass, corn, or medical cannabis hemp.

 

[pipeline]

I think water at the end helps sweeten them up. The flush period.

When does that start by the way? 1 week before harvest?

Watering is usually 10% of the soil volume, so at flush maybe a little more up to 15% soil volume.

 

[mudballs]

Something to do with lipids...i stopped caring when i realized i wouldn't be doing it

 

[mudballs]

I think water at the end helps sweeten them up. The flush period.

When does that start by the way? 1 week before harvest?

Watering is usually 10% of the soil volume, so at flush maybe a little more up to 15% soil volume.

Week 7 of flower...so extrapolate that to whatever strain ur growing

 

[mudballs]

It's dumb unless ur indoors with super dialed in setup. Pipes and valves running all over the place, not an ounce of soil in sight. those places can do it

 

[Holyherb420]

The ants are amazing one of the most amazing insects …I’m wondering if that’s even going to be detrimental to the plant? (when compared to the wounds I receive on mine )

No clue lol...brainless things

I wouldnt mind except im trying to deleaf the lowers/insides a bit and they keep biting me the little bast*rds lol

 

[Old Piney]

I believe that a bit of a dry finish could definitely be beneficial for resin production but unless I'm in a greenhouse I really don't any control over mother nature

 

[mudballs]

Yeah i believe in drybacks...but not that drought stress stuff...im sort of taking the middle road instead of the extreme...a small sign of wilt on outdoor around the 2-3d mark since last watering, you're tapping drought stress signals without the mechanical damage mentioned...you dont want turgidity to completely collapse...super bad
Edit:so during late flowering, last couple weeks i will do drybacks, starve them fkrs of water, but not collapsed osmotic pressure

 

[33eufrat66]

heyho,
from north germany

some karma g. pinkysour reg. ladys from my last selection run, outdoor try (organic)

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and pinkysour#13b today, a bit more shadow...

greetz

 

[Rodehazrd]

It messes with the metabolites

Increasing Inflorescence Dry Weight and Cannabinoid Content in Medical Cannabis Using Controlled Drought Stress

Controlled application of drought can increase secondary metabolite concentrations in some essential oil-producing crops. To evaluate the effects of drought on cannabis (Cannabis sativa L.) inflorescence dry weight and cannabinoid content, drought stress was applied to container-grown cannabis...

journals.ashs.org

If i had any input on it, you can blow past the threshold too easily...just a bit of dryback is good enough.

Thanks Mudballs I’m convinced it works I’ll start having a dry period. My sips with a 6’ plant will empty the 6 gallon reservoir in two days so it’s easy enough to let them dry out and September here can be dry.
I didn’t read close enough to be sure but late flowering is the time to do it? during peak trichs production 7-8th week on most cultivars they said.

 

[mudballs]

Thanks Mudballs I’m convinced it works I’ll start having a dry period. My sips with a 6’ plant will empty the 6 gallon reservoir in two days so it’s easy enough to let them dry out and September here can be dry.
I didn’t read close enough to be sure but late flowering is the time to do it? during peak trichs production 7-8th week on most cultivars they said.

Yep late flower stage, right when pistils start oranging, earlier is ok i guess. Like the edges of the soil pulls away from tote plastic walls dry, scary dry lol.

 

[mudballs]

That makes everything go hydrophobic just so you know