Original Haze hybrids and psychohaze phenotypes

[JohnnyChicago]

JC the seedsman is from flower power via another friend. Any of your seeds would be much appreciated.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I need to start seeds asap. Like today. Close to full moon and first day of spring.

Seedsman from FP is what we call ICmag Haze and is derived from my OH selections. The one of the skinny leaf contest.

Will send you the THH and the other seeds today. Should arrive soon.
They are from a purple and a lime selection. The very best of MMs THH repro I do believe.
Just a few seeds.

And of course I do recommend THH from seedbay too. THH has not been for no reason the best selling OH for so many years. And indeed we need to support icmag!

Also good job in documenting THH and hybrids in this thread. Very interesting.

 

[RingtailCanyon]

HAPPY HAPPY!! JOY JOY!!

 

[MAHA KALA]

hybrids are important, straight haze f1 hybrids are the best, inbreeding is very problematic with haze or haze hybrids...,

so first generation hybrids are important. as most of us are not able to grow pure tropical variety to full potential indoors. including me. I love toms haze hybrids. but also important is what you cross it to. as you want it so close to real haze it is possible. I think bshw was very good parent for my shiny male. not too much indica, so it doesn't take down psychoactive properties of haze. still very easy to grow and gives some solid colas.

so if you would ask me if I am going to grow pure haze indoors or this surrealV2(bshw x haze) pheno1 indoors. I will answer surrealV2 for sure... it has terrific effect.... and thanks to bshw which is long lasting, also very long long lasting effect without any couchlock or come down. look at it how it yields in only 5L pot, under weak led lights, within 90 days from seed. for real haze you would need much more wattage and still cant get that yeild. the effect of it is different category than dutch haze, thanks to bshw genetics and of course thanks to magnificent toms haze. I love these freaky phenos of f1 haze hybrids.

metallic, cocoa tones/chemical tones, woody(sandalwood), sour fruit and spice.

 

[MallardDuck]

hybrids are important, straight haze f1 hybrids are the best, inbreeding is very problematic with haze or haze hybrids...,

so first generation hybrids are important. as most of us are not able to grow pure tropical variety to full potential indoors. including me. I love toms haze hybrids. but also important is what you cross it to. as you want it so close to real haze it is possible. I think bshw was very good parent for my shiny male. not too much indica, so it doesn't take down psychoactive properties of haze. still very easy to grow and gives some solid colas.

so if you would ask me if I am going to grow pure haze indoors or this surrealV2(bshw x haze) pheno1 indoors. I will answer surrealV2 for sure... it has terrific effect.... and thanks to bshw which is long lasting, also very long long lasting effect without any couchlock or come down. look at it how it yields in only 5L pot, under weak led lights, within 90 days from seed. for real haze you would need much more wattage and still cant get that yeild. the effect of it is different category than dutch haze, thanks to bshw genetics and of course thanks to magnificent toms haze. I love these freaky phenos of f1 haze hybrids.

metallic, cocoa tones/chemical tones, woody(sandalwood), sour fruit and spice.

Oh man Maha just beautiful. So I have said in the past that Mexican varieties and hybrids like BSHW are some of my favorite due to the warm happy nature of their effect. Are there other heirlooms or varieties that have similar effects to Mexican? Other varieties to maybe cross with Mr Shine to explore some of the more happy warm haze f1 hybrids? That upbeat, warm, day brightening sativa with a Haze edge to it. That is how I imagine Surreal high in my head at least.

 

[Fitzera]

MallardDuck you did a great job, I can't wait to hear your smoke report!!

 

[MAHA KALA]

Oh man Maha just beautiful. So I have said in the past that Mexican varieties and hybrids like BSHW are some of my favorite due to the warm happy nature of their effect. Are there other heirlooms for varieties that have similar effects to Mexican? Other varieties to maybe cross with Mr Shine to explore some of the more happy warm haze f1 hybrids? That upbeat, warm, day brightening sativa with a Haze edge to it. That is how I imagine Surreal high in my head at least.

thats how surrealV1 works, orange spice pheno. surrealV2 are more thai haze dom. trippy and trance... this particular pheno is all about trance. good for voodoo or other shamanistic rituals LOL pheno5 is that nervous scary trippy rush one - I didnt await it at all in combination with bshw. pheno2 was that happy one, nice clear euphoria not hyper, and pheno 4 was energizing speedy euphoric - again didnt await such high hyper energy from bshw cross. pheno6 was super strong but for price to be muddled and quite flat. pheno3 was strong uplift and rush. pheno8 was meditative and not trippy at all. I keep 1 and 5.


hawaiians are like that man. kona gold is not most potent weed, but it is super nice vacation weed. happy happy, feel like room without roof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZSe6N_BXs

I am curious about Sub24ox7 mextasy grow and how it will compare to tropical boogie for him. and same thing for numide who grew mextasy and now will grow TB. I think that TB will be better, just because it is longer flowering. Mr. Shine is not warm and happy one though. like I said he is about trance and high psychoactivity, strong consciousness shift and overall about quite violently reorganizing actual system of consciousness,,, and breeds true for potency.

 

[JustGrowing420]

thats how surrealV1 works, orange spice pheno.

Wow that sounds a lot like the best pheno from what I grew, I can relate more to this in fact than your description of v2.

#5 from mine is sour spicy orange with hashy livery smoke and floral aftertaste.
Warm happy stoney high, great taste and an all day smoke.

Unfortunately other phenos except #7 (the purple one I harvested first, berry/incense pheno) were not so interesting.
Citrusy herbal smoke, ok taste, high more or less moving in same direction at all phenos.

This is kinda fresh report, I'll give them some time to cure hopefully and return.

pheno #5

 

[MAHA KALA]

Wow that sounds a lot like the best pheno from what I grew, I can relate more to this in fact than your description of v2.

#5 from mine is sour spicy orange with hashy livery smoke and floral aftertaste.
Warm happy stoney high, great taste and an all day smoke.

Unfortunately other phenos except #7 (the purple one I harvested first, berry/incense pheno) were not so interesting.
Citrusy herbal smoke, ok taste, high more or less moving in same direction at all phenos.

This is kinda fresh report, I'll give them some time to cure hopefully and return.

pheno #5

then I fucked it up and sent you surrealV1. because there is not citrus in my surrealV2s. sorry I apologize.

 

[Goodherb]

then I fucked it up and sent you surrealV1. because there is not citrus in my surrealV2s. sorry I apologize.

MAHA KALA, perhaps you need to burn more if #2 Pheno.

Rather interesting ,trance /voodoo , singing & drumming surrealv2.

Goodherb .

 

[MAHA KALA]

#5 from mine is sour spicy orange with hashy livery smoke and floral aftertaste.
Warm happy stoney high, great taste and an all day smoke.

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exactly LOL it is surrealV1 no doubt. I loved this pheno. in the morning or noon. I smoked it really quickly. and sieved resin from it is just yummy!

 

[MAHA KALA]

MAHA KALA, perhaps you need to burn more if #2 Pheno.

Rather interesting ,trance /voodoo , singing & drumming surrealv2.

Goodherb .

pheno2 of surrealV2 is not tasty. it is herbal hashy sour. very hashplant smell. I thought it will be muddled too, as it looked the most indica from them, but it surprised me how happy dreamy it is. dont keep it though. I already said it, pheno1 reminds me malawi gold, that one which floors you a little. not like toms haze at all... she is freak.

about taste, only tasty was pheno3 strong sour fruit metallic. yumm! I smoked it all before any curing LOL. all other phenos were woody metallic, pheno4 is herbal fruity metallic, but that fruit was only very slight. pheno5 is strong metallic floral oil musk and sandalwood with green curry spice. raw spicy taste, strong taste but not many of us would call it tasty LOL

overall I awaited more from bshw mother as far as terps contribution goes. her genes cooperates with male genes greatly in effect department though. in surrealV1 it worked better with taste.

pheno5

 

[JustGrowing420]

then I fucked it up and sent you surrealV1. because there is not citrus in my surrealV2s. sorry I apologize.

If you remember, I had originally asked you about v1
So somehow I ended up growing it without realizing until the end hehe
The keeper is really tasty and has a high I can get used to easily so the ultimate goal was met

 

[MAHA KALA]

If you remember, I had originally asked you about v1
So somehow I ended up growing it without realizing until the end hehe
The keeper is really tasty and has a high I can get used to easily so the ultimate goal was met

I am glad you found something good for you. enjoy and stay happy.

mextasy 2021

 

[GreenAndFast]

Got myself a boy

Had my lime come in aswell.

Acid beauty above.

 

[g0dzilla]

Hi Maha Kala ,

Here's a quick update on the Mindblower haze hitting week 2 . Likely will clean up lowers and add some bamboo stakes towards the end of the week. Both cuts have rooted in about 10 days for me. All due respect Thanks again.

 

[MallardDuck]

Hi Maha Kala ,

Here's a quick update on the Mindblower haze hitting week 2 . Likely will clean up lowers and add some bamboo stakes towards the end of the week. Both cuts have rooted in about 10 days for me. All due respect Thanks again.

Really nice! They look very happy. Looking forward to seeing your Mindblower flower out.

 

[MAHA KALA]

Got myself a boy
Had my lime come in aswell.
Acid beauty above.

looks nice. I will grow AB soon. haze/vietnamese pheno is the key to receive proper message. occasionally there is also nevilles haze pheno, but that is silly and goofy.

Hi Maha Kala ,

Here's a quick update on the Mindblower haze hitting week 2 . Likely will clean up lowers and add some bamboo stakes towards the end of the week. Both cuts have rooted in about 10 days for me. All due respect Thanks again.

looks nice. thanks for update. what other varieties are you growing with it?

 

[g0dzilla]

looks nice. I will grow AB soon. haze/vietnamese pheno is the key to receive proper message. occasionally there is also nevilles haze pheno, but that is silly and goofy.



looks nice. thanks for update. what other varieties are you growing with it?

Thank you! Others in that space are mad mac o haze (jc seedsman /gollis ) , double nigerian , Midnight mass ( cuban black haze bx)

I'm really looking forward to managing this round as I'm working with a new feeding program based upon homemade plant/fruit ferments . So far I'm impressed with the results.

 

[MAHA KALA]

Thank you! Others in that space are mad mac o haze (jc seedsman /gollis ) , double nigerian , Midnight mass ( cuban black haze bx)

I'm really looking forward to managing this round as I'm working with a new feeding program based upon homemade plant/fruit ferments . So far I'm impressed with the results.

now that is perfect bro. except of that nigerian, it is that colombian stuff vs. mindblower thai haze hybrid. nice, cant wait to hear how MB compares into those, from your point of view.

happy haze growing.

 

[MAHA KALA]

one acid beauty is up already. acid beauty is combination of black vietnamese genetics and the best of citric thai phenos I found in about 40 females of Toms haze seeds. so very south asian genetics mix.

black vietnamese/lie hahn(Huesos creator), sour fruit and earthy spice. psychedelic luminous high, like low dose of mushrooms.

citric thai pheno of toms haze, acidic citric metallic earthy oily. special psychoactivity.