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Tutorial Organics for Beginners
- Thread starter BurnOne
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About .50 a gallon.
That lc's mix w/ blood, bone, kelp, greensand, ewc, pdl, peat and perlite.
Beats the sh!t out out of a bag of FF for 20 bucks, about 5 gallons.
I can make 40+ gallons for 20 bucks easy.
At the hydro store their charging almost $40 for a 3.8 cu ft compressed bail of Sunshine mix #4.
You can get the 2.2 cubic ft compressed bails of peat for $5.50 a piece, a 4 cubic ft bag of perlite for $15.00, a 40# bag of EWC for $18.00, and a 50# bag of lime for $5.00.
For $49.00 it is enough material to make about 90 gallons of base mix.
Then a couple boxes of bone and blood meal, $5 a piece, kelp meal $12, greensand $8 .
So for around $80 youve got 80+ gallons of amended soil with more than enough blood, kepl, PDL, and greensand to make another 80 gallons. You would need some more bone meal.
Factor in recycling the mix from run to run, and it becomes even more cost effective.
Burn1, gotta question from an offline grower buddy for ya.
w/ the teas suggested on page 1, flower mix.
is there a dilution rate for the tea?
like 1 cup tea to gallon of h2o or something?
or water with straight tea?
i wasnt 110% sure on the answer, figured id ask???
w/ the teas suggested on page 1, flower mix.
is there a dilution rate for the tea?
like 1 cup tea to gallon of h2o or something?
or water with straight tea?
i wasnt 110% sure on the answer, figured id ask???
Use as directed.
anonymousgrower
Member
Great thread you got here Burnone, I just ordered myself everything I need for an indoor grow with one of your soil mixes, gonna be using guano / ewc tea + maxicrop kelp and liquid karma to feed.
looks fool-proof to me, just hope they'll come out beautiful with a 400watter, and I won't be able to supplement co2 more than breathing on them for awhile because I can't afford a co2 tank and release valve lol.
I'll throw up a picture here in 4 or so months to show how the mix did.
Oh, and would it benefit the soil to sit out and be mixed for a few weeks in the sun? or will it be just as effective the minute it is mixed?
looks fool-proof to me, just hope they'll come out beautiful with a 400watter, and I won't be able to supplement co2 more than breathing on them for awhile because I can't afford a co2 tank and release valve lol.
I'll throw up a picture here in 4 or so months to show how the mix did.
Oh, and would it benefit the soil to sit out and be mixed for a few weeks in the sun? or will it be just as effective the minute it is mixed?
OK, bleach work? When keeping the LC mix with dry ferts moist, do I use the Liquid Karma when adding water, or is the first time enough and use plain water after? I have it now where I can squeeze it and it stays together until I touch it, then it breaks apart pretty easily.
hey burn 1 
new to this forum
Ive been using BMO(blue mountian organics)E-bay
I bought all the Sunleaves bat guano's
mex
jam
Indo
Perv sea bird
and some wormcastings
and molasses......
want to learn how to use guano's
will you point me in the right direction??
i have the air pump,5 gal buckets,all the guano,im ready
and then when u feed ,how often,how much
how do u make tea's
Oh by the way i use foxfarm ocean forest soil
will u
Thanks
oh and here is my journal
http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/195038-organic-montana-medical-grow.html
new to this forum
Ive been using BMO(blue mountian organics)E-bay
I bought all the Sunleaves bat guano's
mex
jam
Indo
Perv sea bird
and some wormcastings
and molasses......
want to learn how to use guano's
will you point me in the right direction??
i have the air pump,5 gal buckets,all the guano,im ready
and then when u feed ,how often,how much
how do u make tea's
Oh by the way i use foxfarm ocean forest soil
will u
Thanks
oh and here is my journal
http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/195038-organic-montana-medical-grow.html
That's about perfect. Just where you want it!
M
mrred
i dump all this into a 4 gallons of water and bubble for 2 days, then stir and dump everything onto my plants, i was going feed every other watering but i started slacking
150ml indo bat shit
30ml kelp
100ml earthworm castings
75ml molasses
about the prices, i havnt found any cheap source on kelp yet
150ml indo bat shit
30ml kelp
100ml earthworm castings
75ml molasses
about the prices, i havnt found any cheap source on kelp yet
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vonforne
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vonforne
Hello B1 sorry for the absence. Work has been busy this summer.
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anonymousgrower
Member
keep the sticks in the sunshine mix or toss em out?
M
mrred
i toss them
anonymousgrower
Member
K thanks, I was gonna keep em in there.. thought they'd be help out the roots or something but I doubt it'd make a difference. time to go diggin lol
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Id be interested if someone knowledgeable in topdressing would discuss various recipes that they have used and application rates and timing. I know you can buy Fox Farms Peace of Mind but if there is a good top dressing veg and flower formulas out there that would work just as well but cheaper that would be nice to hear.
cosmiccowboy
Member
lc's mix #1..whem you say 2 tbsp lime for every gallon soilless mix.does that mean the sum total of peat,perlite and compost manure?...5 gal peat,3 gal perlite,2 gal compost and manure =1o gals mix and you'd ADD 20 tbsp lime?...also,wouldnt it be better to leave perlite out until you were ready to use mix..why would the perlite need to cook?..in other words just take out whatever amount of mix you neede ,then add appropriate amount of perlite.
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vonforne
