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question for all the awesome people-

I am using LC's mix #1 with recipe #1 and after a week or two my plants seem to be getting way too much nitrogen. At first they were showing a little yellowing and N deficiency when I picked up the clones from the clinic, then after transplanting into the soil mix in about 3 days they greened up nicely! problem is they kept going!!!

little too green right now and leaf edges curling down a little almost upside down canoe style, some twisting here and there, some claw, otherwise happy. SHould I just keep watering plain water as planned and hope they grow into the mix? Or should I transplant into the plain soilless mixture and try another feeding recipe?

The genetics are Cheese clone and Hindu Skunk from medical dispensaries.

I probably just didn't even out the tablespoon measurement when I measured, didn't think it would make a difference, but I put myself at fault for this one. Now what guys!!?
 

maryjohn

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1) yellowing on a rooted cutting is normal
2)How much are you watering?
3)was it well rooted?

If you have too much blood meal in there you might consider a bare root transplant but practice on some other plants first. I like to spread out the roots in a handful of dirt then carefully lower it in and add more dirt. Then support it carefully and use water to settle the soil. Don't let go or it will sink in.
 

Absolut

Active member
I keep many different drosera. They catch more bugs than fly traps.

Google carnivorous plants there are a few mail order spots. Get bare root plants. I use a 50-50 peat perlite/sand mix.

They can't grow in the same soil as cannabis and they need RO or Distilled water or they die.

I just looked up drosera on wiki and they look nuts!

How do they fare against the infamous SPIDER MITES?

I'm hoping I won't have too many pest problems b/c of the elevation I'm at but never hurts to take extra precautions.
 
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corkushy

nice recipes and very intresting about how the plants actually uptake the nutes after the bacteria are done feeding on it lol
i use fox farm nutes and a soiless mix kinda organic im sure theres gotta be some synthetic/ non-organic things used in the ff (grow big,bigbloom,and tigerboom) but my question is does the bacteria feed off of these nutrients the same way, because they do contain bat guano and wormcastings and if so should i stop flushing ?
 

maryjohn

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I just looked up drosera on wiki and they look nuts!

How do they fare against the infamous SPIDER MITES?

I'm hoping I won't have too many pest problems b/c of the elevation I'm at but never hurts to take extra precautions.

Useless against mites I'm afraid. Good for gnats which are not a real problem. But they are pretty fucking cool and slimy.
 

getstimulated

New member
Ditto

Ditto

question for all the awesome people-

I am using LC's mix #1 with recipe #1 and after a week or two my plants seem to be getting way too much nitrogen. At first they were showing a little yellowing and N deficiency when I picked up the clones from the clinic, then after transplanting into the soil mix in about 3 days they greened up nicely! problem is they kept going!!!

little too green right now and leaf edges curling down a little almost upside down canoe style, some twisting here and there, some claw, otherwise happy. SHould I just keep watering plain water as planned and hope they grow into the mix? Or should I transplant into the plain soilless mixture and try another feeding recipe?

The genetics are Cheese clone and Hindu Skunk from medical dispensaries.

I probably just didn't even out the tablespoon measurement when I measured, didn't think it would make a difference, but I put myself at fault for this one. Now what guys!!?

I can't be of much help.. I'm learning myself.. but I'm just hear to say the same thing happened to me. Same circumstances.. Same outcome.. but I'm a bit further along. I have one child that is thriving, but now is a tad bit claw like and showing signs of... well.. I can't tell at the moment.. Seems to be a mixture of signs on different leaves. Example: 1 leaf is yellowing around the edges of the entire leaf.. another is wrinkly from the tip moving inward.. etc.. all on the same plant. I'm having a lot of trouble reading them..

BUt - anyway. One took off...until now... And the other child.. le cheese. Well - thats hurtin'. I advise you to take picts if the problem gets worse and post your questions in the infirmary (in a new thread) if you don't get any help here.

I too used the same mix.. and I swore I measured it all as described, but... ? Such is life! If it went perfectly, I guess I wouldn't be learning as much.

Good luck to you!
 

getstimulated

New member
How can one find this wise man..

How can one find this wise man..

Biotone would not be a useful top dressing IMO.

I am biased. I don't tend to fix soil problems but rather start over, repot, wait til next year, etc...

Habeeb seems to be good at fixing things.

Where can one find the man known as Habeeb?

:)
 
Ya Maybe they just need some time to settle. I'm not having any yellowing, just alot of greening. Transplant shock maybe? Hope all that blood meal will calm down soon or something
 

delerious

Active member
nice recipes and very intresting about how the plants actually uptake the nutes after the bacteria are done feeding on it lol
i use fox farm nutes and a soiless mix kinda organic im sure theres gotta be some synthetic/ non-organic things used in the ff (grow big,bigbloom,and tigerboom) but my question is does the bacteria feed off of these nutrients the same way, because they do contain bat guano and wormcastings and if so should i stop flushing ?

I'm not sure what's in the Fox Farm nutes, but it's my understanding that the synthetic chemicals contain salts which kill the bacteria and fungi.
 

delerious

Active member
Thanks for the help so far BurnOne. I have a couple more questions. Should I use the LK with the plain soil mix?

After making compost tea, I see you should clean right away. I have hydrogen peroxide (3%) to use for that. Do you use the hydrogen peroxide straight out of the bottle or mix it with water?

Last question, I did LC's Mix #2 using a gallon container (6,2,2) for 10 gallons total. That should be 20 tablespoons (1 1/4 cups) of powdered dolomite lime, correct? I eyeballed the lime (within a couple teaspoons). Should I err on the side of less or more lime when doing that?

Thanks

note: I was in a hurry with the lime and marked the cup with a felt tip and checked it later.
 

Winecountry

New member
Burn One.
I am starting first grow w/ recipe #3 but I cant get Maxicrop powder...
but i did find another soluable seaweed powder (Sparetime Organics), but I was concerned about the n-p-k....it is 1-1-17 . The directions call for 2/3 cup powder to one gal/ water to make a concentrate. then one teaspoon per gallon of feed water....... I was wondering if this sounds ok.....

Thank you for your help!
 

maryjohn

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Veteran
Not a fungus. That's nitrogen moving around. Many would disagree with me but those look tasty. Very deficient but that is a good thing. I would harvest at the current state, but that is personal preference.
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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I'm having a hard time determining if this is a fungus, deficiency or the plant using up it's resources.[/URL]

I followed LC mix #1 / Recipe #1 exactly and did not leave out any ingredients nor replace them with anything. 3 GAL pots, probably 2.5 GAL of actual LC mix. They are 3' 4' and 4' 6" tall. Strain is Kali Mist (90/10 Sativa/Indica). Temps have 76F and humidity is low. Has been fed tap water (7.4ph) bubbled 24+ hours for the past 2 weeks.

You want your leaves looking deprived of nutes at the end of flowering for better burning bud. Although the dead leaves in the cola can be a sign of bud rot. I normally pry the buds out from the stem a little to check for the white wispy mold or dark brown nasty stuff.
 

K.J

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I'm having a hard time determining if this is a fungus, deficiency or the plant using up it's resources. This started with the lower fan leaves around day 35 and now at day 70 has moved to the bud leaves (new leaves included). Trichomes are close to 80/20 clear/cloudy so I'm guessing there's at least 2-3 weeks left. Does this look like it will lead to moldy buds? If so should I just cut early?

Things look just as they should for day 70! It's the plant consuming resources in the fan leaves, that's all. At least, that's what it looks like in the pictures.
 

Meaty

Member
Hiya :wave:

Just have a quick question. Is pulverized garden lime the same thing as dolomite lime? I have a 40 pound bag of it that I bought to lowes.

Thanks
 
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