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mrred

a few of my plants look like rootrot from the yellowing and spots on leaffs, anything i can do? i thought i kept the soil pretty dry most of the time,if anythng they got to little water
 

B.C.

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For P, I don't do anything special except I do use mycorrhizae at transplanting. Not sure if it's true, but I've read on this board from knowledgeable people that excess P can inhibit the fungus, which basically means you aren't helping but you are wasting money. As you step in the fungus steps down. Bone meal at the start is plenty. I've grown outdoors with great yields using just dry nutes at the start and no mycorrhizae applied. They may have occurred naturally though. Never checked.

So what is excess? I've know for a long time sources for P like super P, triple P, TSP, etc are death to the subculture, but does every source P inhibit fungus growth? Why wouldn't bone meal be too much then? or is it jus guano yer hinting about? ;)

There's no rule saying you can't use somethin that is readily available to the plant anyway, you don't have to depend on fungus. In that case you only wasted money if you bought the spores. If that's even true?

What if you have a plant in flower that is clearly showing signs of deficiencies from running out food in the soil, are you going to top dress it, and wait for the fungus to break down the P so yer plant can feed? If you do yer screwing yer self on potential yeild.

Also, some folks like to control the nutes according to the plants feeding profile, once they get a strain or pheno dailed in. Different strokes fer different folks, I reckon. lol I think it's always best to keep an open mind because there are many different ways to grow, and ya never know when yer gonna learn somethin that may help you do yer thing better.

I grow mostly indoors anymore, I used to grow everything outdoors at one time. I still have a few outside as well as a regular veggie garden, roses, strawberries, etc and I can't amend any of it jus one time at the beginning of the year and expect it to yeild very well all year long. In fact, most of it, esp the bud and tomatoes, really dig a once a month top dress amending. It wouldn't die if I didn't, but it won't give me as much yeild if I don't, learned that years ago. Also, if you container grow outdoors in the same container all year, re-amending is a must, and no one could convince me otherwise! lol... My :2cents: BC
 

B.C.

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OH NO! It's not any good now! lol j/k It would be great if you could use an active compost or casting tea to moisten it back up, but plain old water will work. Moist not wet, it'll be fine. BC
 
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BurnOne

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OH KNOW! It's not any good now! lol j/k It would be great if you could use an active compost or casting tea to moisten it back up, but plain old water will work. Moist not wet, it'll be fine. BC

I agree.
Dolomite only works when it's damp.
I also tumble the mix regularly to keep oxygen available to the microherd. In a nursery pot or grow bag, the microherd get oxygen from the water. That's another reason bubbling is important.
Burn1
 

B.C.

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Not to mention those herds of micros get mighty thirsty out thur on the range, even if they are small! lol.... OK, on that note, I'm going to bed now. Good night Jim-Bob, good night Burn 1, good night IC Mag.... lol BC
 

maryjohn

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BC,

it's true, from what I find and from what I've seen you can do whatever you want, and the fungus doesn't die it just stands down. I do the low nutrient approach as a matter of aesthetics as much as anything. Personal preference. Or, some might say, I'm cheap.

In the past, it was for reasons of stealth.
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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Thanks guys I always premix my mix so I don't have to do that on transplant day too heh...Lesson learned the hard way. I was hoping I wasn't risking potential problems with plants I was unaware of by letting it dry out. I always re-moisten it about 1-2 weeks before hand and till it I just did not know what the repercussions were of letting it dry out.

Thanks a lot :D
 
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Huey69

For those who were helping me before...
I snapped a few pics with my cell phone today to show the yellowing. Keep in mind, the last pic I posted was taken on monday.
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yellowing1.jpg


I've already removed quite a few leaves that were dead. It just seems to be happening pretty rapidly, hence my worry.
Nothing to worry about, or do I need to feed her?
 

maryjohn

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huey check out the "to feed or not to feed" thread for some ideas.

I would say you will be fine either way. That's a handsome plant. 4 weeks or so, no?
 

B.C.

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Those are classic signs of a hungry plant, yellowing from the bottom up. If my opinion counts, lol... then yes, yer right in the middle of flowering, I would feed her some more.

Please don't take offence cuz I'm not trying to be smart ass, but now I think you understand why I suggested using somethin the plant could up take immeadiately. Jus trying to help my friend.

I'm starting to wonder if people even read my post's anymore?! maybe it's Rodney Dangerfield syndrome! LOL! J/K BC
 
theyre light deprived leaves, looka at how much green vegitation is on your plant she doesnt need those, just pluck em nice and gentle so she can get a little breeze up her skirt
thats my opinion
 

maryjohn

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Those are classic signs of a hungry plant, yellowing from the bottom up. If my opinion counts, lol... then yes, yer right in the middle of flowering, I would feed her some more.

that's a fine option as well. personal preference.
 

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