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Tutorial Organics for Beginners

McSnappler

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u can build u own worm farm, its easy to make and easy to use and of course provide the best compost...

On it already, but will be a while before I've got any useable compost.

I've actually got a couple of worm bins in the garden, but they haven't been maintained well - I don't know how good the compost would be, they're full of bugs and stuff, uncomposted materials, etc
 

McSnappler

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Finally found somewhere in the UK that has got a decent substitute for worm castings. If anyone lives near one of these places, they could be worth a visit.

http://www.countrygardens.eu/Pages/GrowingAndCaring.aspx

It’s not too late to add good quality organic matter to your soil. Our organic composted stable manure is perfect for enriching soils and mulching and is 3 for £10 for an 80 litre bag.
I'm sure I've seen BurnOne mention composted manure as a good alternative in this thread.. cheap too, woop!

Hoping they have other goodies too, but I've also found somewhere local with guano so gonna change tack and go that route.
 

delerious

Active member
I have a question regarding water. I've read through most of the 80 some pages in this thread, but didn't see anything in regards to using distilled water - I'm making, not buying. Just about everything I've seen is about RO water.

Is there any difference between distilled and RO for the purposes of watering my plants with it? Is there anything I should watch out for or something extra I'd need to add when using distilled water - either watering or making a tea?

I checked my water out and it has a pH of 7.0 with a ppm of 0.

Thanks
 

BurnOne

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Unless you have chloramine in your municipal water supply, there is no need for RO or distilled water.
Burn1
 

McSnappler

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Found a UK supplier of Seaweed Granules amongst other things.

http://www.thenaturalgardener.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=49

Am I right in thinking this is the same as Kelp Meal?

A Natural Renewable Harvest of the Sea Seaweed !
From the cold clear, unpolluted waters surrounding the Shetland Isles our seaweed - Ascophyllum nodosum -is harvested by hand at low tide.
The harvesters, using a very sharp knife, ensure at least 6” of the stalk is left to regenerate, growing back stronger than ever.
Collected in nets or buckets, it’s moved a few hundred yards to the drying sheds.
Simply dried and bagged it then begins the journey to your garden to start that wonderful ‘Natural Cycle’ thing again.
Can anything be more natural, and sustainable ?
Natures natural cycle, it's the only way.
 

iGro4Me

The Hopeful Protagonist
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Hey Burn,

Quick question:

I was following the Plant-One Organic Food thread and it kind of dead-ended.

Would it be a suitable subject to address via this thread ?

I mean, since we're on the subject of Organic additives?

I'm just hungry for some more info/experience/advice anyone could add as it relates to the Plant-One line.

Peace,

Gro
 

BurnOne

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Hey Burn,

Quick question:

I was following the Plant-One Organic Food thread and it kind of dead-ended.

Would it be a suitable subject to address via this thread ?

I mean, since we're on the subject of Organic additives?

I'm just hungry for some more info/experience/advice anyone could add as it relates to the Plant-One line.

Peace,

Gro

Is it on this site somewhere? Offsite links may not be allowed.
Check here...
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=280
Burn1
 

delerious

Active member
Unless you have chloramine in your municipal water supply, there is no need for RO or distilled water.
Burn1

I believe they call it monochloramine here, but it's been used in drinking water for over 90 years and the EPA says it's OK and they only add a minuscule amount of ammonia to the chlorine - like one gallon per millions of gallons. And of course, you don't have that nasty chlorine smell. Yeah right.
 

jjay

New member
Great posts guys, this thread is amazing. I gave up hydroponics after reading a good bit of info about what organics really has to offer, don't think I will be going back!

I have been brewing my own tea with:
VermiBlend Compost Mix (worm castings mixed in with other goodies)
BS molassas
bat guano

I have searched quite a bit on IC and the net trying to find out if GH's Floralicious Plus can be used in making compost tea. I have read the MSDS and the product description says it has organic materials but they don't advertise it as organic. It seems like there is a lot of beneficial compounds in it, I just don't want to be shooting myself in the foot by putting this stuff into my tea mix and killing other organisms with salts and stabilizers, etc..

Here is a link to the MSDS

http://www.generalhydroponics.com/genhydro_US/msds/Floralicious_Plus.pdf

Does anyone have experience with this stuff?
 

McSnappler

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Anyone have experience of using Rock Guano?

Bought two bags of guano, high N and high P - the high N is just powdered bat guano, but the high P is pellets of rock guano. Is this ok to use? Should I bash it up into a powder first?
 

BurnOne

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Great posts guys, this thread is amazing. I gave up hydroponics after reading a good bit of info about what organics really has to offer, don't think I will be going back!

I have been brewing my own tea with:
VermiBlend Compost Mix (worm castings mixed in with other goodies)
BS molassas
bat guano

I have searched quite a bit on IC and the net trying to find out if GH's Floralicious Plus can be used in making compost tea. I have read the MSDS and the product description says it has organic materials but they don't advertise it as organic. It seems like there is a lot of beneficial compounds in it, I just don't want to be shooting myself in the foot by putting this stuff into my tea mix and killing other organisms with salts and stabilizers, etc..

Here is a link to the MSDS

http://www.generalhydroponics.com/genhydro_US/msds/Floralicious_Plus.pdf

Does anyone have experience with this stuff?

Why chance it? A lot of suppliers put the words "Organic Based" or "Organic Materials" just to help sell their product. It most likely offers no benefit greater than the recipes I posted on this thread.

Anyone have experience of using Rock Guano?

Bought two bags of guano, high N and high P - the high N is just powdered bat guano, but the high P is pellets of rock guano. Is this ok to use? Should I bash it up into a powder first?

It's probably fossilized seabird guano. No need to crush it up.

Burn1
 
Second time asking this question about greensand:


My soil is almost ready but I have the chance to add in green sand. If I add the greensand in, will I have to wait for the soil to stablize or is it ready to go?

Another Q:

Doing the bongoloids guano mix recipe; I read Alfalfa has a growth hormone(Triacontanol) in it. If I add that in to the mix but in half the dose, is it a bit excessive? 3-0-2 soil amendment...or is the bongoloid mix good to go already?
 
dazed, you can not add the greensand if you wish. Greensand is more those that recycle there soil. It takes a long time to break down, if I remember what has been posted. If you want to add it and use the soil right away, I don't see why not. My thinking- we make up our soil and wait a couple of weeks to give the lime and other goodies a chance to start breaking down. Greensand will break down slowly. So I'd go for it.
As for your other question...I don't use just guano so I'm not familar with bongoloids recipe but I do add a buffet of organic goodies. And one I add is alfalfa. And foliar spray with it. It's good stuff. So I would add it to a guano mix. But if that mix is like other guano mixes you should be good to go just going with the poop.
 

pickledLSD

Active member
I have a soil mix that I'm getting ready and I have a few questions for you guys. for the soil mix I have 5 parts peat, 2 parts cow compost, 3 parts perlite, 2 tbs per gallon of powdered dolomite lime, 1 tbs per gallon blood meal, 2 tbs per gallon bone meal and I watered with 1 tbs per gallon of liquid karma. that's pretty much everything I have access too except I have unsulphured mollases remember seeing alaskan fish meal and mushroom compost locally. what would you guy recommend for teas or extra soil additives? sorry for being so long winded, just want to make sure I can do the best with what I have
 
thx vetus fossor,

Had another question regarding the soil's hotness...

If I add the following additives, will it demand some 'cooling' of the soil or is it ok to use as soon as its added like the greensand?

- Oxy-Cal 60% calcium peroxide, oxygen booster
- Rare Earth
- Diamond Black
- Mycorrhizae
 
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