"Cooking" does NOT mean to add heat! Room temperature so the bacteria can eat and multiply is what you seek. Telperatures below 35 degrees F or above 120 degrees F are not good. This is not like brewing black tea.
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Tutorial Organics for Beginners
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"Cooking" does NOT mean to add heat! Room temperature so the bacteria can eat and multiply is what you seek. Telperatures below 35 degrees F or above 120 degrees F are not good. This is not like brewing black tea.
Burn1
No modifications really need to be made. Just be diligent as you would with an indoor plant. Spend time with them, give them teas when they ask for it.
As mentioned in the first couple of pages, be prepared for critters to be curious if using bone/blood meals.
My two cents, go with the 10 gal or more if you have the area for it.
More, health root mass lends itself to more, healthy foliage.
Metatron
Member
Thanks for the input, last time I tried some organic soil the local shops had nothing more than basic bone and blood meal. Now... all the good stuff is available: alfalfa, crab shell, oyster shell, rock dust and many good others.
You're very welcome.
For the most part bone/blood meal COULD get a plant through harvest if you are on a budget.
For the most part bone/blood meal COULD get a plant through harvest if you are on a budget.
Metatron
Member
It sure can, visited a friend in Hawaii and smoked his homegrown. Soil, bone and blood only. Some of the best outdoor I've smoked.
BicycleJoe
New member
Hello Folks new indoor grower here. I am running LOS. I am here because of Clack and Mountain Organics thread on another forum. I go by the forum names Theophrastus and Paracelsus elsewhere, since those names are taken here I am using my RL nickname Bicycle Joe. This is my second post here.
I need a quick answer about the Veg light period. Since day 1 my lights have been on 24/7 but this afternoon I have a visitor coming for a housing inspection. I have once every 3 years. I want to put the plants in the closet while they are here.
5 hours at the most.
In the unlikely event they arrive on time it could be as little as 15 minutes until they leave. They are giving me a 5 hour window in the afternoon when they will arrive.
What I want to do is put them back on 24/7 as soon as they leave.
1) Will that stress the plants?
2). Will the plant at just less than 26 days above ground go into flower with 5 hours or less of total darkness?
3) Lastly can I go back to 24/7 or do I have to stay on 19/5
thank you friends
I need a quick answer about the Veg light period. Since day 1 my lights have been on 24/7 but this afternoon I have a visitor coming for a housing inspection. I have once every 3 years. I want to put the plants in the closet while they are here.
5 hours at the most.
In the unlikely event they arrive on time it could be as little as 15 minutes until they leave. They are giving me a 5 hour window in the afternoon when they will arrive.
What I want to do is put them back on 24/7 as soon as they leave.
1) Will that stress the plants?
2). Will the plant at just less than 26 days above ground go into flower with 5 hours or less of total darkness?
3) Lastly can I go back to 24/7 or do I have to stay on 19/5
thank you friends
Do it, they will be fine. Plants need between 14-12 hours of complete uninterrupted darkness to initiate flowering. And even then, it takes a few days to start that transition. So 5 hours of darkness is no issue. Ofcourse on a long term basis constantly changing light periods might cause some stress but for a one time inspection it is important enough. Playing around with the light cycles is tougher in flowering as they will be more sensitive to changes and can hermie.
I myself am on a 15 on /9 off Light period and everything is staying in VEG. you can go back to 24/0 after your inspection. I have always much preferred 18/6 light cycles myself.
Mine soil mix know in first days to be hot as i sensed with hand
on a bucket that it gives temperature out... tough i didnt measure
how exactly hot it gets.. dont worry for beneficials as i sees they
survive easy this little heat... i think most of this organismes are
extremophiles so this temps dont made them nothing...
they just thrive better..
All the best
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremophile
On June 2016, scientists from Brigham Young University conclusively reported that endospores of Bacillus subtilis were able to survive high speed impacts up to 299±28 m/s, extreme shock, and extreme deceleration
PakSamGyiShing
New member
Yeah, not much modification. Just don't forget the silica =]
The main consideration is if you have critters around. If you use anything that might smell delicious such as blood, bone, fish, crab, &c. make sure it's well decomposed before you put the mix out. I suspect growers who get problems with rats or squirrels chewing the stems, and all that jazz, might have something to do with the form of the nutrients they're using such as fish emulsion, &c. Besides, having the mix well broken down prevents any chance of the plant taking on any "off-flavors" =O
Thank you for this link to understanding our plants. I talk to my plants, caress them, play Mozart's etudes for them, pray over the water I give them to drink. My neighbors say my garden reminds them of Hawaii because it is so lush with happy, healthy looking plants. I tell them I love them. I ask how they are doing. I apologize to them when I prune them. After reading the link you cited, I will be sure to put down red carpeting in my greenhouse because the red color will encourage them to grow 50% faster and stronger. I will gently stroke the delicate stems of my seedlings to help them develop thicker stems. I have the book, THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS. I did not know it had been made into a movie which is now available on Youtube. Thank you for this wonderful information.
CannaRed
Cannabinerd
I thought it was funny that in the literature for Neptune's Harvest it says that their fish products help repel deer.
What's gonna keep everything else away that the fish attracts
Good stuff BurnOne.
Still to this day I use this mix when not growing in pure coco. It's perfect. I like pure coco for inside and organics for outside.
Just mixed up some of the base mix #1 for some seedlings.
Everyone one of the food recipes stated works well. I personally like the blood, bone and kelp meal recipe for outdoors because it requires very little extra inputs after the initial preparation.
Still to this day I use this mix when not growing in pure coco. It's perfect. I like pure coco for inside and organics for outside.
Just mixed up some of the base mix #1 for some seedlings.
Everyone one of the food recipes stated works well. I personally like the blood, bone and kelp meal recipe for outdoors because it requires very little extra inputs after the initial preparation.
noknees
Member
@BurnOne
i'm putting together plans for my first legal indoor grow.
i'd like to try the organics, if indeed i can TRULY give only water until harvest.
plans are
2x4 tent with LED lighting
Northern Lights from seed
3 gallon Smart Pots, mix #2 and food formula #1, and if possible, blumat watering.
any thoughts? can i really pull this off on the first try?
thanks very much in advance
others plz feel free to chime in
i'm putting together plans for my first legal indoor grow.
i'd like to try the organics, if indeed i can TRULY give only water until harvest.
plans are
2x4 tent with LED lighting
Northern Lights from seed
3 gallon Smart Pots, mix #2 and food formula #1, and if possible, blumat watering.
any thoughts? can i really pull this off on the first try?
thanks very much in advance
others plz feel free to chime in
You can definitely pull it off if you believe in yourself
. Mix #2 with food formula #1 is very solid and simple. Don't forget to put the seedlings in just Mix #2. No extra food from recipe #1 yet. They won't need the full mix until at least 4-5 weeks of age.If you like you can follow along on my current outdoor grow BLOOD AND BONES to see how things go. The beginning of the journal starts at germination and now I'm finally vegging out in the sun. I'm using food formula #1. I've always loved it. Tried and true. Just been giving them tap water nothing else.
noknees
Member
You can definitely pull it off if you believe in yourself
If you like you can follow along on my current outdoor grow BLOOD AND BONES to see how things go. The beginning of the journal starts at germination and now I'm finally vegging out in the sun. I'm using food formula #1. I've always loved it. Tried and true. Just been giving them tap water nothing else.
v cool. thx!
I'm not sure how molasses affects chlorine and chloramine. I have heard of Vitamin C working but I used to use potassium metabisulfite when I brewed beer and it worked well.
Not really sure if I would recommend doing that for growing though. Seems like more than I'd want to do but to each his own. If I were to recommend something I'd say look into getting a Canister RV carbon water filter with garden hose fittings, or any other type of carbon filter for water. At least that way you wouldn't have to add something to treat the water every time.
That being said I've been watering my plants outside straight from the hose with no issues and I know for a fact my water has chloramine it. The plants don't seem to mind though.
Too much worry over chlorimine. Use any organic matter,activated charcoal filters, spray it in the air, let it sit, run it through rusty pipes, or do nothing at all. There just isn't that much in your water. The water company hates spending money on anything but water. They use a minimal amount, just to get it to your meter.
