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Tutorial Organics for Beginners
- Thread starter BurnOne
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So excited...
I could'nt afford to get Promix... so I started looking at coco... I had no idea how cheap coco is...
I'm gonna do 50% coco 30% chunky perlite 20% Ewc.... with some Alfalfa, Fishbone Meal, Kelp, feathermeal {Dr Earth Bloom 4-10-7}..... Has endo+ecto Myco, and beneficials.
Wondering what you think about that plan Burnone.. Any additional things you would recommend or anything I should watch out for with PH or anything
I could'nt afford to get Promix... so I started looking at coco... I had no idea how cheap coco is...
I'm gonna do 50% coco 30% chunky perlite 20% Ewc.... with some Alfalfa, Fishbone Meal, Kelp, feathermeal {Dr Earth Bloom 4-10-7}..... Has endo+ecto Myco, and beneficials.
Wondering what you think about that plan Burnone.. Any additional things you would recommend or anything I should watch out for with PH or anything
You're a few years past your expiration date there Dr Young lol.
I'm using a combo of Dr Earth Flower Girl and their Pure Gold. Plants love it.
I'm using a combo of Dr Earth Flower Girl and their Pure Gold. Plants love it.
Thats a picture I found on the net to show the ingredients. Mine better have fresh sentient remains on arrival from the globalists lol.
I get excited over simple things. Definitely happy right now. It'll be fun to try coco finally, coarse perlite finally.... and amends so I can just give the girls nothing but water.
I might even find the time to start foliar feeding with a tea now with the spare time, and ease of things.
I get excited over simple things. Definitely happy right now. It'll be fun to try coco finally, coarse perlite finally.... and amends so I can just give the girls nothing but water.
I might even find the time to start foliar feeding with a tea now with the spare time, and ease of things.
Lost in a SOG
GrassSnakeGenetics
Dolomite for sure otherwise you have no pH buffering or calcium/magnesium.. Coco is pretty calcium hungry as a substrate.
OkieSmokie
Member
I picked up a bale of ProMix Vegatable and Herb on sale at the Mart. ($10 USD for 2 cu ft compacted) Its ORMI listed organic.
First Question: If I use it in a LCs Mix, should i go with recipe 1 or 2? My thought is 2 but I'd like some community input. What do you think about ProMix Vegatable and Herb for use in indoor Organic MJ gardening?
The dolomite lime is a given. It will be added per the recipe. The addition and importance of powered dolomite lime seems to be a recuring theme of this thread.
The food plan is blood, bone, kelp with water only.
Second question: With the water only food regimen, should one use the LIQUID KARMA only at the start? Or continually throughout the grow?
First Question: If I use it in a LCs Mix, should i go with recipe 1 or 2? My thought is 2 but I'd like some community input. What do you think about ProMix Vegatable and Herb for use in indoor Organic MJ gardening?
The dolomite lime is a given. It will be added per the recipe. The addition and importance of powered dolomite lime seems to be a recuring theme of this thread.
The food plan is blood, bone, kelp with water only.
Second question: With the water only food regimen, should one use the LIQUID KARMA only at the start? Or continually throughout the grow?
OkieSmokie
Member
My understanding is that the lime primaraly provides cal/mag and the humus is primarily responsable for the pH buffering. Someone please correct me or explain if i dont grasp this correctly.
Yeah definitely SOG. I'm having issue with my current mix. Just Promix bx, Ewc, crabshell meal, and kelpmeal..... watering with Neptune's 2-6-4...
My Thai x MalawiPPP are only 4 weeks in flower and cannabalizing lower leaves, and showing red specks on upper leaves.... I guess I didnt put enough dolomite in the mix, and the crabshells aren't breaking down yet. Not really understanding it unless its PH issues.
My Thai x MalawiPPP are only 4 weeks in flower and cannabalizing lower leaves, and showing red specks on upper leaves.... I guess I didnt put enough dolomite in the mix, and the crabshells aren't breaking down yet. Not really understanding it unless its PH issues.
Lost in a SOG
GrassSnakeGenetics
Yeah it definitely is classically a buffer in horticulture isn't it because it only wants to alkalise to around 7 and not much higher but the activity of a good varied microbiome also helps modulate and buffer pH. in coco or peaty soils the recipes on page 1 states to be adding dolomite otherwise both pH can plummet and calcium/magnesium/phosphorous and molybdenum can become locked out which cripples plants and is impossible to rectify if really bad with an immobile nutrient like Ca..
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Teddybrae
Looks like this thread may be the place to ask: What is the reason that Lime(or Dolomite) and Fertiliser should not be added together? In another thread Troutman says Lime first, Fertiliser later but does not explain. So ... Why shouldn't they be added together?
Good evening Teddybrae,
Its pretty slow around here, so i'll share my caveman comprehension of things..
The short answer is chemistry. Calcium competing for exchange sites on the media with other positively-charged ions in the fertilizer.
You also have to consider H+ ions, which are already in the peat and the source of the acidity.
You have a lot of K and Mg in your mix., Read up on using calcium carbonate instead of dolomitic lime.
Wait so you're supposed to be mixing the base mix with lime first and then mixing again with the fertilizer? I've been just mixing it all at once. Had some ca/mg related deficiencies this last run that didn't make sense to me since I'm using all the right inputs posted here. I figured it was the strains I was running maybe just needed more. Was gonna up the lime 50% next run.
Am I supposed to wait a period of time after mixing the base to allow these ionic exhanges to happen? Any need to wet the base mix first before mixing in other amendments?
Am I supposed to wait a period of time after mixing the base to allow these ionic exhanges to happen? Any need to wet the base mix first before mixing in other amendments?
noknees
Member
http://sunshineadvanced.com/growing-media-ph-harmonizing-peat-and-lime/
