Tutorial Organics for Beginners

[PaulieWaulie]

I stopped worrying since I watched this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgvlE8YM1xI&t=31s

 

[justiceman]

Too much worry over chlorimine. Use any organic matter,activated charcoal filters, spray it in the air, let it sit, run it through rusty pipes, or do nothing at all. There just isn't that much in your water. The water company hates spending money on anything but water. They use a minimal amount, just to get it to your meter.

Exactly. Way too much worry over it. If it made as big of an impact as cannabis growers seem to think it does then everyone's vegetable and ornamental gardens across the nation would be in poor health and that's just not the case.

I stopped worrying since I watched this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgvlE8YM1xI&t=31s

That's a solid vid. Good post.

 

[noknees]

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[h.h.]

Now that we're over the worry, chlorimide can form some unwanted compounds when it comes in contact with organic matter.

While very, very, very minimal, there is little good reason in my mind for not using a good charcoal filter.

 

[noknees]

anyone care to school me on KIS stuff, are their soils (Biochar) what they claim?

 

[justiceman]

anyone care to school me on KIS stuff, are their soils (Biochar) what they claim?

I just looked up the soil. It seems to be pretty solid to me judging by the ingredient list.

Black Owl Biochar, Alaskan Spaghnum Peat Moss, Oly Mountain Fish Compost, Earthworm Castings, Volcanic Pumice, KIS Organics Microbe Catalyst, Gaia Green Canadian Glacial Rock Dust, Cascade Minerals Basalt, Calphos Soft Rock Phosphate, Pacific Pearl Oyster Shell Powder, Organic Alfalfa Meal, Organic Fish Bone Meal, Organic Crustacean Meal, Acadian Kelp Meal (ascophyllum nodosum), Ahimsa Organics Neem Cake, Ahimsa Organics Karanja Cake, Organic Fish Meal, Organic Feather Meal, Organic Steamed Bone Meal, Natural Calcite, Ag Lime, Mycorrhiza*, and Beneficial Microbes.

Only way to really tell is to give it a shot. Maybe someone else will chime in who has used it.

 

[CannaRed]

anyone care to school me on KIS stuff, are their soils (Biochar) what they claim?

Tad hussy knows his shit. Try listening to his podcast the kis organics cannabis cultivation and science podcast. Excellent interviews full of great grow knowledge.

Tad is also a member here at icmag. Learn from him.

 

[Metatron]

Long story short...the house I've moved into has a pigeon infestation problem. I have copious amounts of pigeon shit on the side of my house, it lands on concrete and use a blower to "clean" it off.

Anyways so I have extra pigeon poop, can I do something productive with this? Like throw it into the compost pile or even make tea with it? I've yet to try...

TIA

 

[CannaRed]

Long story short...the house I've moved into has a pigeon infestation problem. I have copious amounts of pigeon shit on the side of my house, it lands on concrete and use a blower to "clean" it off.

Anyways so I have extra pigeon poop, can I do something productive with this? Like throw it into the compost pile or even make tea with it? I've yet to try...

TIA

I would compost it first. I'm sure you don't have to, but it would help to go through a hot compost cycle just in case there is any bad pathogens from your fine feathered friends.

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

Long story short...the house I've moved into has a pigeon infestation problem. I have copious amounts of pigeon shit on the side of my house, it lands on concrete and use a blower to "clean" it off.

Anyways so I have extra pigeon poop, can I do something productive with this? Like throw it into the compost pile or even make tea with it? I've yet to try...

TIA

Pigeon's are some of the filthiest, most disease carrying animals on the planet. I personally would never use their shit on anything. But that's just me. Could be perfectly fine to use.

 

[noknees]

so if I'm growing just two plants in a 2x4, what size pot should I use? building my soil next couple days and need to go shopping!

thinking maybe 7 or 10 gallon Smart Pot...?

**will be growing NL/indica. tent height 6+ ft

 

[darrenchan]

thanks very helpful,Besides,I think it's also important to do steps to prevent soil borne diseases in advance. I have used Trichoderma harzianum,Apply every two month,the effect is good.

 

[Lost in a SOG]

so if I'm growing just two plants in a 2x4, what size pot should I use? building my soil next couple days and need to go shopping!

thinking maybe 7 or 10 gallon Smart Pot...?

**will be growing NL/indica. tent height 6+ ft

Yep that's about right for that space.. Sounds like the genetics will be fine in a 7 and that way it is slightly easier to weigh the pot by hand to check watering needs, but the 10 will also be np.. NL dom stuff normally doesn't branch much and you have a nice high ceiling.. Have fun

 

[noknees]

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[SevenTreeFour]

Not sure if BurnOne still frequents here but I have a few questions somebody might be able to help with. Im reading this entire thread but only on page 55. (So much awesome information, everyone with positive input rocks!)

Moving toward organics and have decided I want to first try Soil Mix #2 with food source #3 (Guana Tea and Kelp). Im doing this so I can properly cook a better soil over the next month (will get into that another day) lol. It seems like soil mix #2 with food source #3 are the quickest and easiest for my situation while I let a better batch compost. I could potentially plant right into this mix and go to town? No cooking neccesary?

Also would there be anything extra I might be interested in adding to LCs soil mix 2 that I could also benefit from using the Kelp and Guano tea as a food source?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

 

[justiceman]

Not sure if BurnOne still frequents here but I have a few questions somebody might be able to help with. Im reading this entire thread but only on page 55. (So much awesome information, everyone with positive input rocks!)

Moving toward organics and have decided I want to first try Soil Mix #2 with food source #3 (Guana Tea and Kelp). Im doing this so I can properly cook a better soil over the next month (will get into that another day) lol. It seems like soil mix #2 with food source #3 are the quickest and easiest for my situation while I let a better batch compost. I could potentially plant right into this mix and go to town? No cooking neccesary?

Also would there be anything extra I might be interested in adding to LCs soil mix 2 that I could also benefit from using the Kelp and Guano tea as a food source?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Yup that's the cool part about using food source #3. You can just plant into the base mix without cooking. Especially if you are using Recipe #2 that usually has some kind of soil mixed in that which has a bit of readily available food already.



I wouldn't add anything else to the mix. Doesn't really need anything else. It's simple and high quality already. See how it goes with the basics and then add stuff later on if you want to.

 

[Mr.grower]

58/5000
sorry for my bad english but I use google translator....hi all in the meantime a big thank you goes to Burnone who are reading his posts I'm not understanding anything even if there is a lot to learn here on icmag, I am an Italian Tuscan grow indoor and outdoor I would like to know if in the soil mix of Burnone if you can add azomite if you do not need it and what effect it has on the soil mix ..

 

[BurnOne]

58/5000
sorry for my bad english but I use google translator....hi all in the meantime a big thank you goes to Burnone who are reading his posts I'm not understanding anything even if there is a lot to learn here on icmag, I am an Italian Tuscan grow indoor and outdoor I would like to know if in the soil mix of Burnone if you can add azomite if you do not need it and what effect it has on the soil mix ..

No Azomite.
Burn1

 

[SevenTreeFour]

Yup that's the cool part about using food source #3. You can just plant into the base mix without cooking. Especially if you are using Recipe #2 that usually has some kind of soil mixed in that which has a bit of readily available food already.



I wouldn't add anything else to the mix. Doesn't really need anything else. It's simple and high quality already. See how it goes with the basics and then add stuff later on if you want to.

Thank you man! I appreciate you!

Was picking up supplies from my local store today and ran into a issue with the Bat Guano.

I was planning on grabbing the Roots Organics Nitro Bat Guano NPK 9-3-1. Unfortunately they were all out until next week. They do have the Roots Organic Super Nitro but its a much higher NPK 15.5-1-1. I understand that I'd probably use much less changing the formula a bit... But how much less would I use?

I also had options on seabird guano also.

Roots Organic Seabird Guano NPK 0-12-0
Buried Treasure peruvian Seabird Guano NPK 12-10-3.

I went with the Peruvian. Solid choice? Or would I better benefit from the Roots Organic?

 

[Mr.grower]

first I apologize for my english hello burnone certainly the resignation is not good but could cover the reason, with what would interfere the azomime ... certainly she is right but if you have 2 minutes to explain why I would be grateful I have need to learn and know ....... thank you anyway for losing your precious time with me .....