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bsgospel

bsgospel

Bat Macumba
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Gotcha- your cotyledons are coming off fairly normally so I don't think you're lacking in Ca. IIRC the dolomite wouldn't really begin to disperse/release into your mix until a lil bit later on anyway (anyone feel free to confirm/refute.) I'm not entirely certain from those pics but I spy a hint of burn on the very tips and a light N imbalance. I wouldn't worry about it. If you stick to the mix, it should even out sooner or later (they're just young and angsty ;) )
 
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jonhova

Active member
bsgospel said:
Gotcha- your cotyledons are coming off fairly normally so I don't think you're lacking in Ca. IIRC the dolomite wouldn't really begin to disperse/release into your mix until a lil bit later on anyway (anyone feel free to confirm/refute.) I'm not entirely certain from those pics but I spy a hint of burn on the very tips and a light N imbalance. I wouldn't worry about it. If you stick to the mix, it should even out sooner or later (they're just young and angsty ;) )
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Do you think holding off on the kelp/ fish emulsion is a good idea? i was using 2 cap fulls per gallon of water every watering until i noticed the yellowing.
 
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Complete Noob

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Is there anyone out there that can answer my question about lime?

I have made lc's soiless mix #1 I have everything except green sand and crushed lime for the first dry fert recipe but I have regular garden lime. I am about to use this instead since I cannot get crushed lime locally I can get green sand tho getting some this weekend
 
BurnOne

BurnOne

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It's powdered dolomite lime. You can find it. Call your local garden centers. I find it in Lowes and Home Depot all the time. Usually by itself on a shelf away from pelletized lime. You just have to ask and look for it.
Burn1
 
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Complete Noob

Member
BurnOne said:
It's powdered dolomite lime. You can find it. Call your local garden centers. I find it in Lowes and Home Depot all the time. Usually by itself on a shelf away from pelletized lime. You just have to ask and look for it.
Burn1
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Ok well I just went to Home Depot and lowes yesterday and the only thing I found was fast acting garden lime Pennington I felt it it felt pelleted I read it it read pelleted do you mind finding it online for me if you think it's there? I know that's a lot to ask but if it's there it will be on their online inventory for both stores

I know I can probably just order it online I guess that's what I'll have to do since pelleted is not the right type?
 
Microbeman

Microbeman

The Logical Gardener
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Ya, Burn1 is right. Dolomite lime is literally everywhere. BTW it is also easy to powder chunks in a blender.
 
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rolnik1

New member
RiddleMeThis said:
Grow journal started, pics added at 1 month from seed (see sig below).

True testament to the quality of the LC mix and recipe outlined in the OP.

Plants will be transplanted into 5 gal grow bags of the mix just prior to flower (currently in 1L)




Thanks again for all of the help along the way guys.
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Plants look good but are rather small, i'm having similiar problem. I use this mix for few years now and had some nice success despite that. I had really nice plants before and i can't figure it out. Some pictures:


37days right after switch. Stricly to the rules coco+perlite+castings with meals. stretched a lot and possibly cut to early, gave around 50g of really quality(common theme) each in 2ft and 150hps.



First time i used the mix i had some problem but plants managed to grow thru it, were small but still gave about 50g each same setup. both are c99 from female seeds, good stuff but next time one hermied and polinated quite a bit.



Other times it's like that. 1 week old in 1st photo, ok temp low humidity. In second photo biggest have like 3 weeks medium 2 weeks and small 6 days, the are all in different mediums, little difference but maybe enough - smallest are in castings+coco+ lime and look to be the slowest. Last photo maybe 3 weeks... just stopped growing 2 weeks before. original leaves started yellowing after time and stems were purple(common theme), i transplanted them to see what happens because everything was ready(cabinet outside temps from 5-15c maybe, one month later it looked like that
nice and healthy but thin in the end.

What can it be? After maybe 3-4 days or even from the start seedlings grow very slow, colour is light and stems are often purple and stay thin for very long, temp and humidity seem good. I don't think i'm over watering them but never know... Last coco i bought was 1300ppm(finally i bought the meters to investigate a bit never checked that before, can it spoil the grow like that? Water is even 7.8 with high calcium. Once i swtched to bottled for test i think there was a difference(growth started) but again it could be weather change... it's wooden cabinet outside also fit and second time i haven't used bottled water i may have used jug filtered one sometimes. Chlorine? i let it sit at least 2 days i'd say. I could blame outside conditions but small veg room is under total controll, lights are 80-110w cold cfl 20cm from plants, maybe that is not enough? I started testing a lot recently(have some some of these hermie seeds which seem to be very vigorous comparing to freebies i had) and thought it would be wise to also ask since i can't figure it out for so long and maybe somebody else can't also.
 
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jonhova

Active member
Complete Noob said:
Ok also it says to water with liquid karma can I water with earth juice catalyst instead?
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compost tea works great for me. 2 Table spoons of Black strap mollasses and 1 cup of earth worm castings in a $1 grocery store mesh bag in a 5 gallon bucket with an air pump that pushes at least 180 gallons per hour (check ebay for a cheap Chinese pump). liquid karma and greensand are not necessities.

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Complete Noob

Member
jonhova said:
compost tea works great for me. 2 Table spoons of Black strap mollasses and 1 cup of earth worm castings in a $1 grocery store mesh bag in a 5 gallon bucket with an air pump that pushes at least 180 gallons per hour (check ebay for a cheap Chinese pump). liquid karma and greensand are not necessities.

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Thank you
 
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brown_thumb

Active member
One of my friends haphazardly mixed dirt infused with chicken poop, clay soil from a nearly corn field, bagged cow manure, some very black organic material from a bag, rotten tree stump, etc. along with some of my rice hulls, vermiculite and perlite. There was little rhyme or reason to his mix and his plants are growing like monsters compared to mine. I'm growing in loose soil using expensive Emerald Harvest nutrients and other supposed 'good stuff'. I guess I'll have him mix the soil for my next batch.
 
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brown_thumb said:
One of my friends haphazardly mixed dirt infused with chicken poop, clay soil from a nearly corn field, bagged cow manure, some very black organic material from a bag, rotten tree stump, etc. along with some of my rice hulls, vermiculite and perlite. There was little rhyme or reason to his mix and his plants are growing like monsters compared to mine. I'm growing in loose soil using expensive Emerald Harvest nutrients and other supposed 'good stuff'. I guess I'll have him mix the soil for my next batch.
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Funny. Just goes to show. Im still trying to figure it all out. Unfortunately I spent money on ingredients that I used to take for granted when I was a kid and my folks were making us help do plots of veg gardens. Now living in the burbs and trying to self supply I rue for the day.
 
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