Tutorial Organics for Beginners

[hillbil]

This thread was new when I was just beginning and is an old touch point for reference. LC's mix is the base of mine and countless others mixes. I use a little more of this or less of that but the basis is that mix.

LEDS have caused me to use more drainage but basically a good reliable and safe mix that can get anyone started. Thanks BO.

My latest best addition to my mixes has been NeemCake for stubborn pest and slow release notes. Someone, maybe the Coot has been a Neem Cake fan forever. Some of us are not first adapters!

 

[jonhova]

This thread was new when I was just beginning and is an old touch point for reference. LC's mix is the base of mine and countless others mixes. I use a little more of this or less of that but the basis is that mix.

LEDS have caused me to use more drainage but basically a good reliable and safe mix that can get anyone started. Thanks BO.

My latest best addition to my mixes has been NeemCake for stubborn pest and slow release notes. Someone, maybe the Coot has been a Neem Cake fan forever. Some of us are not first adapters!

Neem is helping me with a WPM outbreak and keeping thkse pesky fungus gnats at bay.

 

[Apache Kush]

This thread was new when I was just beginning and is an old touch point for reference. LC's mix is the base of mine and countless others mixes. I use a little more of this or less of that but the basis is that mix.

LEDS have caused me to use more drainage but basically a good reliable and safe mix that can get anyone started. Thanks BO.

My latest best addition to my mixes has been NeemCake for stubborn pest and slow release notes. Someone, maybe the Coot has been a Neem Cake fan forever. Some of us are not first adapters!

Is the Neem Meal from ''down to earth'' brand the same thing as the neem cake??^

It seems like a great amendment, kills two birds...
slow release and bug deterent etc..

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

Sup guys! Hey Burn, I use Happy Frog soil straight outta the bag with no perlite or anything added to it and plants do great, along with using PBP and supplements. Ever since expanding my grow, I want to get shit even more simple and use a water only mix. Question is, can I get away with not adding any perlite and ewc to the Happy Frog and just amend it with lime, blood meal, bone meal, and kelp meal??? And then let it cook for a few weeks.

Trying to keep it real simple, but if I gotta add em, then I gotta add em! Lol. I know the Happy Frog soil is loaded with mycos and stuff already. Along with some ewc and guano. And using it straight with no perlite has always done great for me. I actually would like it to dry out less really. If it dried out any faster now, I would have to water my 5 gallons once a day.

 

[wasgedn]

perlite is cheap when you dont buy it at grow-lobby...vermiculite is good too...mykos can root through vermiculite...
i use both...and some worms (2-5 pro 90 liter container..)they make air tunnels in soil among others...


neem is great....but when you add bitter-stuff like liquid neem oil to much to the roots (why ever)it will slow down development ...

the dry neem fert is only a very short term pesticide...imo its fert...neem oil or tea(oil is stronger )is energizer and organic pesticide which is great

fungus gnats are nerving but not to bad when you dont smoke youre trim directly and who does......
you can add silicia sand on soil to close down spot..

 

[jonhova]

Is the Neem Meal from ''down to earth'' brand the same thing as the neem cake??^

It seems like a great amendment, kills two birds...
slow release and bug deterent etc..

neem meal is neem cake.

 

[RiddleMeThis]

Clones took to the LC mix #2 just as vigorously as they did the fool proof rapid rooters. Much more efficient and easier on the wallet!

 

[RiddleMeThis]

And can I just say these base mixes are rather boring, which is obviously a good thing. I am just waiting for something to happen and am disappointed daily. No signs of anything... at all, just lush green growth day after day. Molasses with occasional ewc and liquid seaweed in my waterings, that's it.

 

[Samuel Caldwell]

Beauties! Nice job!

One of the first things I learned when I switched over to organic was actually how easy it was to grow beautiful plants. Just give them what they want naturally and they thrive. Amazing!

 

[wasgedn]

One of the first things I learned when I switched over to organic was actually how easy it was to grow beautiful plants.

yes you say it....once supersoil is done its like autopilot growing...
no ph adjusting for water saves plenty time...

 

[RiddleMeThis]

Haven't touched my stinking ph, no need to.

Except when dealing with fresh cuttings of course

 

[Root Boy]

smbdy told me this thread is a "must read" here
not disappointed so far, over 500 pages information NICE! =)

I see many soil recipes with different combinations with different ingredients , very good!

and I specially d like to know what product got wich effect.

is there a collected list ore anything like that?

thx

 

[Avinash.miles]

this and the 2 rols threads.... good reads....

 

[Phenome]

smbdy told me this thread is a "must read" here
not disappointed so far, over 500 pages information NICE! =)

I see many soil recipes with different combinations with different ingredients , very good!

and I specially d like to know what product got wich effect.

is there a collected list ore anything like that?

thx

This is the closest thing I know of to what I think you're after.
Thread made by dank.frank https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=258168

 

[Root Boy]

well, thanks a lot! but all I see are even more soil recipes...

what I meant was a list of the ingredients and what they are actually good for.

for example like:
horn meal - used for nitrogen - usual dose: xxx cups per gallon
fishbone meal - used for phosphates - usual dose: xxx cups per gallon

more information about the single products and less like a recipe...
I am working on a collection like that and thought there might be smthng like that already out there...

 

[Phenome]

Go get the book teaming with nutrients written by Jeff lowenfels. The back has a long list of a bunch of useful info on many individual amendments. The photos aren't uploading and I don't have time to type it all out for you because it's pages. Give me a bit and I'll try and get photos

 

[Root Boy]

yeah

teaming with - nutrients - microbes - fungi

already ordered! seems like they`re like the organic`s bible

 

[jonhova]

I reread the thread and realized plain water is molasses and worm casting tea. I havent been using molasses at all. Will the CA/MG in molasses solve this yellowing?

http://imgur.com/a/VMmHJ

 

[bsgospel]

Yes and no- Yes, it will help to feed fungus and bacteria in the ecosystem; aid in metabolism/glycolysis- but no, it won't have much to do with Ca/Mg. And in a plant that size, it's not exactly screaming for a ridiculous EC anyway. What else you got growing in those cups btw?

 

[jonhova]

What else you got growing in those cups btw?

Red clover is chilling with the girls.

I decided it might be the lack of ca/mg from forgetting the dolomite lime in the seedling mix. I added 2 tablespoons to a gallon of LC mix and top dressed it in to the cups with a light watering.