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- Opiated Thai Sticks: Myth or Truth? -

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
From
DJ Short article

An element was added to certain shipments of Thai herb in the 70's: "early water." A by-product of the heroin trade, early water was the leftover water used to create the heroin from the raw opium.

It contained all of the constituents of opium except most of the heroin.

The curing Thai herb was soaked in the water and redried to absorb the opiate alkaloids. The result was a high that was sought out by some, but more than most bargained for. A good wash was an enjoyable thing, but some were over-laced, which caused a dilemma for those who would start spinning after a few hits on a joint.
I only saw them a few times and I scored them from a mate's uncle who was a biker.

I preferred the normal Thai over the Opiated Thai sticks, it was a better experience or high.

 

Boo

Cabana’s bitch
Veteran
That’s why opiated Thai sticks is complete bollocks and always has been
bushy, I'm a fair bit older than you are but my words are true...the thai sticks I smoked on here 2 toked and you were rendered stupid...just because you didn't smoke what I smoked doesn't make my posts bollocks...mebbe you got shit for sticks over there but ours are legendary on this side of the pond...our views are no on the same page...
 
I know for a fact from a. Homie I have boots on the ground in Thailand with . The poppy was painted on with a. Paint brush not dipped . Peace be with u
 
I just saw that dj short article interesting read , from what I know there’s red string gold string and green , red being what most people got as regular Thai stock and gold being optiated , whether they soaked the herb or painted it on sounds to me like it’s truth either way u cut it all around the board with Thai stock being laced to score extra money
 

vermontman

Well-known member
Hello All!
Just had to chime in here.
Back in the seventies I smoked heaps of green Thai sticks, gold Thai sticks and my personal favorite though how do I even compare? BUDDHA STICKS! YUUUUUM!
But the simple fact after growing many many beds of Papaver somniferum hello opium poppies and harvesting and smoking many many ounces of raw opium from my own beds, the simple fact is that opium needs a majorly higher temp to combust to produce smoke than cannabis and the effects of all the Thai sticks and loose Thai I had back in the day were not that of opium period!
I have smoked MANY MANY MANY ounces of Thai varieties of Thai and opium my own and some import port black tar and nothing in my experiences would even suggest that there was opium in my Thai cannabis products.
JUST SAYIN! HAHA
Below one of my numerous flower gardens. My strains were Afghan. Turkish, Johnson and Johnson's super strain from Tazmania.
That all being said my largest poppy garden was 50FT X 25FT and to give perspective how much it takes to produce that amount I only harvested 2 ounce of raw opium from about two thousand plants and many, and again many hours of harvest labor. And that harvest once processed did last me two years.
Oh those were the days! HAHA
PS if you look at the glorious bulb close up in the center bottom of the picture you will see the first drippings of that magical juice forming on the newly sliced pod. HAHA



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Donald Mallard

el duck
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I know for a fact from a. Homie I have boots on the ground in Thailand with . The poppy was painted on with a. Paint brush not dipped . Peace be with u
no you dont ,
this didnt happen , there is so many misinformed people around ,
no one was painting thai sticks with opium , or dipping them in it ,,

this i s just an urban myth ,, perpetuated by people who never saw anything ,
but were told by someone who apparently had first hand experience ,
but didnt know what they were talking about ,

as many have said , its possible there has been opium at some time mixed with some cannabis ,
but thai sticks , dipped , then exported in mass quantity , nope , that never happened ,
ask the people who were on the ground there buying it to smuggle ,
the thais who were making the sticks and growing the weed ,
there are many who were there , and deny this myth ,
as well as the thais themselves , who say it was an urban myth ,
and why would they even do that to something that was already quality ,
opium would ruin the quality of the high..

add to it that the opium and weed were grown in complete different parts of thailand ,
but totally different people/tribes , who do not do business with each other ,
yes its a load of bollocks ...
 

Donald Mallard

el duck
Moderator
Veteran
I just saw that dj short article interesting read , from what I know there’s red string gold string and green , red being what most people got as regular Thai stock and gold being optiated , whether they soaked the herb or painted it on sounds to me like it’s truth either way u cut it all around the board with Thai stock being laced to score extra money
original thai sticks used the fibre from the plant to wrap the sticks , no string , dont listen to dj short , he wasnt even there , he was in america making up stories like this because he had no idea of the truth .. the only people making more money was dealers in america telling tall tales to line their pockets further ..
 

vermontman

Well-known member
no you dont ,
this didnt happen , there is so many misinformed people around ,
no one was painting thai sticks with opium , or dipping them in it ,,

this i s just an urban myth ,, perpetuated by people who never saw anything ,
but were told by someone who apparently had first hand experience ,
but didnt know what they were talking about ,

as many have said , its possible there has been opium at some time mixed with some cannabis ,
but thai sticks , dipped , then exported in mass quantity , nope , that never happened ,
ask the people who were on the ground there buying it to smuggle ,
the thais who were making the sticks and growing the weed ,
there are many who were there , and deny this myth ,
as well as the thais themselves , who say it was an urban myth ,
and why would they even do that to something that was already quality ,
opium would ruin the quality of the high..

add to it that the opium and weed were grown in complete different parts of thailand ,
but totally different people/tribes , who do not do business with each other ,
yes its a load of bollocks ...
You tellem Donald!!!
100% AGREE!!
Let set that record STRAIGHT!!!
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
I never saw Thai sticks with coloured string and a lot of it was also not on a stick, it was just compressed. The high with the Opiate Thai sticks was very different, almost a dark experience you didn't need much, but if you smoked a little too much you spend the next hours throwing up.

The 70 even 80s were a wash with opium and heroin, the explanation of some Thai weed being dipped into the "early water." or A by-product of the heroin trade makes sense to me.
 

Donald Mallard

el duck
Moderator
Veteran
I never saw Thai sticks with coloured string and a lot of it was also not on a stick, it was just compressed. The high with the Opiate Thai sticks was very different, almost a dark experience you didn't need much, but if you smoked a little too much you spend the next hours throwing up.

The 70 even 80s were a wash with opium and heroin, the explanation of some Thai weed being dipped into the "early water." or A by-product of the heroin trade makes sense to me.
except ,, the opium and heroine were not even in the same province or same part of thailand ,
only folks like dj and others with no idea of the country could come up with stories like that rubbish,
unless they decided to risk it all and send the opium to the other side of the country to get processed ,
hahahaha ,, yep thats right , no one would do that of course ...
 
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