ON THAT COCO S#@*

[Miraculous Meds]

That's not what I see reading the GH recommended feed. The highest they recommend on micro and bloom is 4/8 and that's late bloom. 1/4/5 to 1/4/6 early to mid bloom, the 1 being floragro. I guess they also recommend their liquid koolbloom which puts the bloom right up there near 9. Maybe using 2ml more micro makes up for 1 ml gro but in no way is 6/9 much less than their schedule feeds.

I looked at the gh feed charts and stand corrected. Looks like they are around 6 to 800ppm. The old generic bottle labels used to say, 5,10,15ml and would add up to 1350ppm plus additives. I think most companys still have u use that higher amount.

My previous statements about how much to give the plants still holds true for me in coco.

Do u feed at half strength 6/9 after they are rooted stoned40? That was the main point of my post not the manufacturers suggestions, cause I could give a shit less what they say versus what works for me.

 

[stoned40yrs]

I looked at the gh feed charts and stand corrected. Looks like they are around 6 to 800ppm. The old generic bottle labels used to say, 5,10,15ml and would add up to 1350ppm plus additives. I think most companys still have u use that higher amount.

My previous statements about how much to give the plants still holds true for me in coco.

Do u feed at half strength 6/9 after they are rooted stoned40? That was the main point of my post not the manufacturers suggestions, cause I could give a shit less what they say versus what works for me.

Ya when I ran blumats feeding 6/9 it was too strong to run constantly. I should have been flushing with half strength every 5-7 days to prevent salt buildup. Now I'm handwatering and I also had to flush them with 1/3 strength for a couple days. Can't point my finger at the 6/9 as my environment isn't dialed in. I have never had problems feeding full strength 6/9 to clones, seedlings or any plant in veg no matter what size. A few fan leaves go whack in bloom, even when I tried Maxibloom. Anyway at the end of the day I get more dank bud than I can consume from my perpetual grow and worrying about a couple fan leaves is the same as worrying about a few pimples on a hot blonds ass

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Ya when I ran blumats feeding 6/9 it was too strong to run constantly. I should have been flushing with half strength every 5-7 days to prevent salt buildup. Now I'm handwatering and I also had to flush them with 1/3 strength for a couple days. Can't point my finger at the 6/9 as my environment isn't dialed in. I have never had problems feeding full strength 6/9 to clones, seedlings or any plant in veg no matter what size. A few fan leaves go whack in bloom, even when I tried Maxibloom. Anyway at the end of the day I get more dank bud than I can consume from my perpetual grow and worrying about a couple fan leaves is the same as worrying about a few pimples on a hot blondes ass

The bluemat prob is related to not getting any runoff I bet. I was speaking of dtw, I should have mentioned that. In ur hand watering are u getting runoff, if not then I think reducing strength like that every once in a while makes sense.

 

[stoned40yrs]

I get the same problems with runoff. I go for close to 50% runoff and have the entire grow this time. The most advanced plant just finished week 5. Runoff hasn't stopped the minor lockout I get around week 2 bloom. Might be lights off temps. I finally put a heater in there to bring the temp up to 62. Bitches in 2 gal coco don't like cold Alaska air like they do in 5 gal soil. In soil I used to let them live in the 40s, lights off.

 

[NEGT1]

Damn, I feel bad for anyone that has to feed 50% runoff to prevent salt build up, I would suggest your ratios or pH might be out of whack. Never have fed more than 5% runoff, fresh water once very 10-14 days with no issues, and a full feed schedule, really full.

 

[stoned40yrs]

Damn, I feel bad for anyone that has to feed 50% runoff to prevent salt build up, I would suggest your ratios or pH might be out of whack. Never have fed more than 5% runoff, fresh water once very 10-14 days with no issues, and a full feed schedule, really full.

How can GH 6/9 ratio be out of whack? My ph and ec are never out of whack. If it was some easy shit like that it would have been fixed long ago. Low root zone temps got me for awhile. Salt buildup got me a little with blumats. I only have 5 plants in bloom at the moment and 50% runoff equals a little more than a gallon, if I had a bunch of plants I wouldn't be having no 50%

 

[DONAJTHEIII]

I can vouch and say mirac is on point for not feeding the ladies 6/9 at half strength for more than a couple waterings when their young if they have strong roots then they want that full 6/9 go 3/4 strength at least if there getting toxicities. I would say a flush every week at half strength works too. I did half strength 6/9 with tap and ran into mg def quick did full 6/9 ladies all greened up and look amazing. Anything larger than 8-10 inches gets full strength 6/9 in my garden and they love it. Do half strength too long and defs will come guaranteed.

Ajae

 

[Weeded1s]

Im sure the 6 weeks with no run off had something to do with it. I see dark green leaves..burnt tips and a little clawing...so Ill flush good with 6/9 tomorrow and see what happens. Thanks everyone

 

[Miraculous Meds]

I get the same problems with runoff. I go for close to 50% runoff and have the entire grow this time. The most advanced plant just finished week 5. Runoff hasn't stopped the minor lockout I get around week 2 bloom. Might be lights off temps. I finally put a heater in there to bring the temp up to 62. Bitches in 2 gal coco don't like cold Alaska air like they do in 5 gal soil. In soil I used to let them live in the 40s, lights off.

Id say u nailed it. 62 is even to low on them roots. That will definitely cause the problems ur describing. try and get it up to 70 at least. It will make a huge difference. Its a nice bonus of co2 if u can use a gas heater. Im sure the soil would do better at 70 as well.

 

[stoned40yrs]

Id say u nailed it. 62 is even to low on them roots. That will definitely cause the problems ur describing. try and get it up to 70 at least. It will make a huge difference. Its a nice bonus of co2 if u can use a gas heater. Im sure the soil would do better at 70 as well.

Ya I'm positive it was root temps causing a minor lockout. It dawned on me when the same strains that were 2 feet above floor level showed no lockout while those on the floor had it.

 

[Snow Crash]

Ya I'm positive it was root temps causing a minor lockout. It dawned on me when the same strains that were 2 feet above floor level showed no lockout while those on the floor had it.

Wouldn't the root temperatures need to be pretty cold for that to happen? <60 degrees. How does a floor get that cold when the grow space is consistently over 74?

And if it is that cold then that's awesome! It's like a big free heat sink.

 

[stoned40yrs]

Wouldn't the root temperatures need to be pretty cold for that to happen? <60 degrees. How does a floor get that cold when the grow space is consistently over 74?

And if it is that cold then that's awesome! It's like a big free heat sink.

Its winter here, 27 degrees right now. I have forced air oil heat but I quit using it 5 years ago and heat a 3000 square foot house with 2 wood stoves, no heat at night, I like it cold, night time temps in the high 40s-low 50s. If I can't see my breath when I wake up it was too hot. My grow room is a 6'x14' walk in closet. In winter it stays in the low 40s, lights off. Lights on the 1k keeps it in the mid 70s. I just put a tiny electric heater in there to keep the temp up to around 62 now, lights off. I'm not a cashcropper so I'm not spending anymore money to grow this stuff then it would cost me to go buy it. I hated to even plug in a tiny 200w heater. I be a subsistence grower

 

[GonjaLove]

I dont have any pics...but im pretty sure i cut my micro a tad too early. will this cause a problem?

 

[stoned40yrs]

I dont have any pics...but im pretty sure i cut my micro a tad too early. will this cause a problem?

Don't know if it's a problem but it will cause them to yellow up. You should taper the micro off till the end instead of cutting it off completely some people say. How many week strain and what week did you cut it off?

 

[GonjaLove]

Supposed to be 7-8 weeks. I cut it day 42 or 43 I cant remember. Loos like its going 8 weeks atleast. Day 49 now and just starting to slightly see cloudy trichs here and there.

 

[Weeded1s]

Its always something when growing ..unless its your buiss..you shelled out the dough to do not only right but efficently..and even then things still come up with diff strains.
Im just trying to make my shoulder not hurt .
On a side note I upped everything in flower to 6/9 and moved em outdoors into shed (pics soon).. gonna move some from 2 x 2 into 3 x3 to start flowering today or tomorrow. Also gona transplant the 1 gals into 2 or 3 gals..not sure yet. Thanks for the thread support people its greatly appreciated.
P.s. chem ds (keeper fo sho) dwarfed the cheese, and the master larry looks like a drunk hooker with no composure swaying in the wind (wish I coulda trained her better but hey..thats life).

Lastly got my coachella rooms secured so im stoked . Tis a good day.

 

[nukklehead]

Its winter here, 27 degrees right now. I have forced air oil heat but I quit using it 5 years ago and heat a 3000 square foot house with 2 wood stoves, no heat at night, I like it cold, night time temps in the high 40s-low 50s. If I can't see my breath when I wake up it was too hot. My grow room is a 6'x14' walk in closet. In winter it stays in the low 40s, lights off. Lights on the 1k keeps it in the mid 70s. I just put a tiny electric heater in there to keep the temp up to around 62 now, lights off. I'm not a cashcropper so I'm not spending anymore money to grow this stuff then it would cost me to go buy it. I hated to even plug in a tiny 200w heater. I be a subsistence grower

Damn stoned 40... guess it is time for you northerners to hunker down for the long dark season isnt it?? Must be some big o l wood stoves to do that job... not too mention some big ole stumps to fuel it.. stay safe bro!!

Nuk

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Supposed to be 7-8 weeks. I cut it day 42 or 43 I cant remember. Loos like its going 8 weeks atleast. Day 49 now and just starting to slightly see cloudy trichs here and there.

I don't drop micro til the last week. Seems that when I drop it earlier it effects the health too much for me. I cant taste it in the herb either. I will run it till the very end if some strains run longer and im harvesting one early. As long as u haven't let salts build up in the medium I don't think u can taste it. But everybody is different.

 

[GonjaLove]

I don't drop micro til the last week. Seems that when I drop it earlier it effects the health too much for me. I cant taste it in the herb either. I will run it till the very end if some strains run longer and im harvesting one early. As long as u haven't let salts build up in the medium I don't think u can taste it. But everybody is different.

so you drop micro and bloom at the same time? i would have to think all your leaves are still green when you chop if you wait that long.

 

[Weeded1s]

Im going to cut micro in half start of week 8 then no micro for week 9 but hanging onto the bloom for 4 days in week 9..then nothing for 10 days.
Just my plan on a 10 weeker.
While in here I think 6/9 is too much for master larrry so I think back to 1.2 ec for those 2...and ill use 6/9 as my boost for week 4 5 and 6 on them. Ill waych it for another day but it looks dark green and has some crispy tips.
I dunno..well c. Depending on how they do they might go outside in sun to finish ..and ill put some of my veg in there (little smaller and not so sloppy) to fill the space.
Have a good wknd all!