Oldtimer's Haze

[LowFalutin]

Hi LowFalutin,

Yes, there's indeed a more compact early flowering Green Haze pheno, it grows more columnar than average, with fatter stems and bigger leaves, yet 100 % tropical sativa. It usually takes 14-16 weeks to fully mature, maybe a bit faster from clone.

Glad you found one It's a rare expression, maybe only 10-20 % of the Green Hazes belong to this pheno. Quality is similar to other phenos, but i still prefer the longer flowering ones to choose haze parental plants.

Hope it is an interesting one, and useful for your own breeding projects.

dubi-
thanks for taking the time to share this valuable info.
my compact pheno matches all the physical characteristics you mentioned,
except compact girl has the same leaf-size/shape as her vine-ier sisters,
tho' looks like she'll be leaf-ier, in part, due to shorter inter-node length.

saludos!

 

[LostTribe]

She is coming along at day 67 of 11/13.

No tric's yet but she's just getting going....
LT

 

[Mtn. Nectar]

the Purple Haze F3 I ran from you few yrs back had purple calayxes in 90+ degree heat.......finished mid December here at 36+ deg N.L. at close to 3000'ele.............

ganj on............

 

[2scoot]

A couple of shots of some three month cured 26 week OTH.
May be hard to see but there is a large amount of resin which makes these bud very sticky to handle. If you squeeze them just the slightest they hold that shape.
Buds are a nice mellow golden color with small amounts of red/orange.
If this was bricked and nobody told me I would think it was some of the same smoke going around in the late 70's - that's what it reminds me of.
This has become my go to, my hello and good morning, and my lets get some work done! Its the all rounder and I'm looking forward to growing it again. I learned some stuff from my last grow, next time I should have it dialed in.

 

[SonicNurse92]

Hola SonicNurse92,

It was indeed a beautiful Oldtimer's Haze male, very well grown for such small pot and space.

Best wishes for the upcoming grow with new genetics

Saludos!

Hola tocayo

Thank you for your encouraging words Dubi, it was a beautiful and smelly male indeed. I'm getting better on making soil mixes for pure sativas i think . I still have 6 seeds of the freebies so i'll run it again next year; next time i'll take a genetic backup for sure. The Ethiopian that your staff sent me while you were on vacation is beautiful. I'm thinking on creating a thread when te time is right to show how it develops indoors.

Saludos maestro!

 

[BruceBanner]

A couple of shots of some three month cured 26 week OTH.
May be hard to see but there is a large amount of resin which makes these bud very sticky to handle. If you squeeze them just the slightest they hold that shape.
Buds are a nice mellow golden color with small amounts of red/orange.
If this was bricked and nobody told me I would think it was some of the same smoke going around in the late 70's - that's what it reminds me of.
This has become my go to, my hello and good morning, and my lets get some work done! Its the all rounder and I'm looking forward to growing it again. I learned some stuff from my last grow, next time I should have it dialed in.
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Man this is literary gold, or at least worth like it!

 

[stoney917]

I'm in the party now... These are an older batch of oth... Maybe dubi can say when they were made...
Anyway I'm saying this is day 1 of many many more... 3 of 4 popped directly in soil 4 days after planting...]

 

[nepalnt21]

so, i'm still a little confused after all of these years: does o.t. haze have the original haze genetics in there? or has it been replicated using landrace genetics?

i assume by the first post that it was passed down for years from original haze, and other landrace genetics have been used to bring back hybrid vigor?

if so, how much % would you guess is still original haze?

thanks dubi and everyone here who are all awesome !

 

[Terpene]

so, i'm still a little confused after all of these years: does o.t. haze have the original haze genetics in there? or has it been replicated using landrace genetics?

i assume by the first post that it was passed down for years from original haze, and other landrace genetics have been used to bring back hybrid vigor?

if so, how much % would you guess is still original haze?

thanks dubi and everyone here who are all awesome !

OTH is completely original. The only Ace haze-landrace bred lines are labeled as such (Panama-Haze, Thai-Haze, KaliChina-Haze, Haze-Malawi, etc). There is a noticeable difference in vigor between OTH and Ace's crosses with OTH in them.

Original haze (specifically the purple selection Dubi has done) is one of my all-time favorites, but I think Dubi could create much more interesting "hazes" with his landrace lines. Original haze is limited to what we had in the 70s - Columbian, Mexican, Thai and Kerala and then inbred about a thousand times.

Dubi's already started down the all new haze road with the haze crosses listed above, but I think a completely custom "haze" creation using the thai-zamal pheno of Zamaldelica, Tikal-Honduras, Panama and Congo would be an incredible sativa with very premium, happy and psychedelic effects - but I'll let Willy Wonka design his own candy creations.

 

[LostTribe]

OTH is completely original. The only Ace haze-landrace bred lines are labeled as such (Panama-Haze, Thai-Haze, KaliChina-Haze, Haze-Malawi, etc). There is a noticeable difference in vigor between OTH and Ace's crosses with OTH in them.

Original haze (specifically the purple selection Dubi has done) is one of my all-time favorites, but I think Dubi could create much more interesting "hazes" with his landrace lines. Original haze is limited to what we had in the 70s - Columbian, Mexican, Thai and Kerala and then inbred about a thousand times.

Dubi's already started down the all new haze road with the haze crosses listed above, but I think a completely custom "haze" creation using the thai-zamal pheno of Zamaldelica, Tikal-Honduras, Panama and Congo would be an incredible sativa with very premium, happy and psychedelic effects - but I'll let Willy Wonka design his own candy creations.

My GT leaning Zamaldelica is very strong definitely dont operate heavy machinery type gear! The haze is at 77 days of 11/13 and finally got a nice smell today for the first time spicy incense! Not many visible trich's yet and small calyx's with large hairs! I think she's past the halfway point but its far to soon to tell.

 

[FireIn.TheSky]

A couple of shots of some three month cured 26 week OTH.
May be hard to see but there is a large amount of resin which makes these bud very sticky to handle. If you squeeze them just the slightest they hold that shape.
Buds are a nice mellow golden color with small amounts of red/orange.
If this was bricked and nobody told me I would think it was some of the same smoke going around in the late 70's - that's what it reminds me of.
This has become my go to, my hello and good morning, and my lets get some work done! Its the all rounder and I'm looking forward to growing it again. I learned some stuff from my last grow, next time I should have it dialed in.
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nice work excellent sativa buds.

 

[LostTribe]

My entire plant is now showing purple tips on the calyx's I also now have a really nice spicy incense aroma billowing from the fluffy buds!

 

[LostTribe]

Day 80 of 11/13 pics

ACE old-timers purple haze

Great spicy incense aroma all calyx tips going purple now!

Enjoy,
LT

 

[dubi]

Green Haze 19 and Purple Haze 23 facing last stage of maturation outdoors, 3rd week of December. It rained A LOT past weeks, but here they are

 

[GoatCheese]

Green Haze 19 and Purple Haze 23 facing last stage of maturation outdoors, 3rd week of December. It rained A LOT past weeks, but here they are

Do you have a photo of the Green Haze male you used for the latest OT Green Haze stock, i'd love to see it?

 

[dubi]

Hi GoatCheese,

Unfortunately, i didn't take pics of the last Oldtimer's Haze reproduction, but we used a wide variety of haze males (and females) for the reproduction. Many green males too: more early flowering, very long flowering, lower yielders, big yielders, .... very similar male expressions compared with the males posted in the first pages of this thread.

 

[LostTribe]

I have more trichomes today! These still have along time to go I think from the size of the calyx's to the size of the hairs....

 

[satva]

Old Timer's Haze male in early flower

 

[LostTribe]

Old Timer's Haze male in early flower
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That looks a lot like the male I collected pollen from.

My girl is at day 92 of 11/13 today! Buds are getting fuller and more trichomes showing up now so that is definitely positive. Looks like they are finished producing hairs at this point but the calyx's are still small and hairs are all white except the ones that were pollinated.

 

[Sativied]

Hi Sativied,

It's a pitty you didn't have the time or space to complete their flowering. You are a very talented grower and i was really curious to know how would they perform in your garden.

Growing pure haze indoors is a challenge, and as is stated in our description of the strain it's not worth unless you want to do some breeding with her or you are a tropical sativa fanatic.

Anyway, after seeing your great results with your Silver Haze crosses maybe is worth to explore the Oldtimer's Haze x Silver Haze hybrid.

Hey Dubi, going to pop those OTH x SH seeds soon, got about 40. Not going to continue the Panama x SH cross as it's just too much. Not a relaxed effect is an understatement. I'm hoping the OTH x SH will be a better candidate to cross with my P cross. P is an extremely piney (and frosty within 48hours after popping seed) cross (F4) between a chunk and cannalope haze that needs more haze to be a haze hybrid again.